Women’s sport weekly wrap: Bring the Women’s World Cup to Australia

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    “I am delighted we are supporting a bid for the 2023 Women’s World Cup.”

    With those magic words, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull confirmed on Tuesday what many people within the football community had suspected for months – Australia is aiming to host the world’s largest women’s sporting event in just six years.

    While the government described their approach as “cautious”, the bid has received backing from both sides of politics, with Opposition Leader Bill Shorten tweeting this week that Labor would support the FFA’s bid to bring the tournament here.

    Hosting an event of this magnitude would have untold benefits for football in Australia, from the obvious opportunity for fans to experience a tournament such as this first-hand, and the potential of the Matildas being crowned champions on home soil, to improvements in facilities at grassroots level through legacy grants and increased registrations among girls and women across the country.

    This halo effect has been noticeable over the last two years, with the 2015 Asian Cup said to have brought an increase of up to 20 per cent in football participation, while research showed that the national economy benefitted from an $81-million boost in spending throughout the three-week tournament.

    Caitlin Foord Australia Matildas Football 2012

    (AAP Image/Dean Lewins)

    However, despite all the potential upsides, there seems to be trepidation from some quarters that bidding for and hosting a Women’s World Cup would only come at great cost to the Australian taxpayer. After the fiasco of Australia’s bid to host the 2022 men’s World Cup, it’s understandable that people would question the wisdom of once again getting involved with an organisation proven to be murky at best and brazenly corrupt at worst.

    Fortunately for taxpayers and the FFA alike, he truth of the matter is quite the opposite. While the three last three men’s World Cups to be awarded have attracted 12 exorbitant bids from across 14 countries, just five countries have bid to host the three women’s competitions up until 2019 (Germany, Canada, Zimbabwe, France and South Korea).

    Similarly, a grand total of zero stadiums have been built specifically to host Women’s World Cup games in five tournaments between 2007 and 2019, while as many as 27 venues will have been constructed to hold matches for the men’s events between 2010 and 2022 – including up to nine in Qatar, costing an estimated A$250 billion.

    While construction and upgrades are already planned for venues such as ANZ Stadium and Pirtek Stadium in Sydney, Australia already has the sporting infrastructure necessary to host a major sporting event. Venues such as Hindmarsh Oval in Adelaide, AAMI Park in Melbourne and Lang Park in Brisbane are already consistent with the quality and scale of venues used in previous tournaments. These include the 20,000-seat Stade des Alpes in Grenoble, the 30,000-seat Volkswagen-Arena in Wolfsburg or the 55,000-seat BC Place in Vancouver, meaning that – in theory, at least – Australia could host a Women’s World Cup tomorrow at very little cost to the taxpayer.

    This is all a pipe dream until further bids are confirmed; as things stand, only Australia and Colombia have formally launched bids to host the 2023 tournament, though Japan, New Zealand and Thailand have all expressed interest, with the host expected to be announced by FIFA in 2019.

    Tokyo’s hosting of the 2020 Olympics and Paralympics could work as both a help and hindrance for Japan’s bid, while FIFA could make history by awarding the tournament to Colombia or New Zealand in what would be a first for both South America and Oceania.

    Make no mistake: Australia would put on a spectacular Women’s World Cup if chosen to host the tournament in 2023, and would have a great chance of lifting the trophy at home if the current crop of players are anything to go by. For now though, all we as fans can do is watch and wait as bids come and go over the next two years, and hope that the FFA can make a strong enough case that FIFA have no choice but to award us with what would be the biggest event in Australia’s football history.

    David Gallop

    (AFP PHOTO / Peter PARKS)

    Cricket
    I’ve enjoyed seeing plenty of commentary in the media this week about the upcoming ICC Women’s Cricket World Cup which begins in England on 24 June with a match between England and India.

    The Australian Women’s Cricket team have a couple of new faces in the squad and I’m particularly looking forward to how a bowling attack potentially featuring fast bowlers like Sarah Aley and Belinda Vakarewa handles the English conditions.

    In Australia, women’s cricket has progressed significantly in the last couple of years – buoyed by the success of the WBBL, the professionalisation of the NSW Breakers and the success of the then named Southern Stars.

    Women’s cricket does not owe its success to men like Chris Gayle and when I read an article this week talking about the role Gayle could potentially have in promoting women’s sport, my first thought was ‘no thanks’.

    According to Hamila Khan, founder of a charity called Opening Boundaries, Gayle has a part to play in helping to increase awareness of women’s sport.

    When I think about Gayle and women, I do not think of a man who recognises the importance of women as equals. Instead I think of a man who has humiliated talented female sports journalists on air, allegedly behaved inappropriately in dressing rooms and refused to apologise when his behaviour offends.

    Women’s sport needs champions – but Gayle is not one of them.

    Mary Konstantopoulos
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    Mary Konstantopoulos is a lawyer, sports advocate and proud owner and founder of the Ladies Who empire, including Ladies who League, Ladies who Legspin, Ladies who Lineout and Ladies who Leap. You can find her podcast on iTunes and find her on Twitter @mary__kaye and @ladieswholeague.

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    • Roar Guru

      June 16th 2017 @ 6:25am
      Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 16th 2017 @ 6:25am | ! Report

      If the tournaments in Germany, China & Canada are any guide then the Women’s World Cup is a tournament well worth bidding for. It has proven to be both a commercial and social success.

      Hopefully the bid provides the impetus for lengthening the W-League season which is currently woefully short.

      • Columnist

        June 16th 2017 @ 9:55am
        Mary Konstantopoulos said | June 16th 2017 @ 9:55am | ! Report

        Oh wouldn’t a proper W-League season be absolutely amazing!

        • June 16th 2017 @ 10:11am
          Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:11am | ! Report

          Unfortunately, the football’s competitors have huge influence at Government level – be it federal, state, local – and these competitors know they can’t stifle football on the demand side (players), but they can on the supply side (infrastructure).

          Central Coast Mariners are desperate to have a W-League team. They put in a bid to have a team in 2017/18.
          They’ve got funding. Sponsors. Players.

          But, can you believe this has failed because the Gosford Council has refused to allow Women’s only change-rooms at Gosford Stadium?! CCM was willing to pay for the work, but Gosford Council has not given approval.

          This is outrageous behaviour by Gosford Council. The sort of thing we’d expect from nations where women are treated as 2nd class citizens.

          Full story here:

          http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-w-league-introduction-delayed/14b99fy1m64e91m3w9crwsm9n8

          • June 16th 2017 @ 2:21pm
            pauly said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:21pm | ! Report

            Nem, is there any impact on this from the merger of Gosford and Wyong councils? I get the feeling there’s some inertia as a result, the merged council still under the control of appointed administrators.

            • June 16th 2017 @ 2:28pm
              Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:28pm | ! Report

              @pauly- I’d say Midfielder is the Roar’s expert on all things Gosford.. I’ve heard he’s got the Keys to the City. Doesn’t even have to pay parking fines.

            • June 16th 2017 @ 9:21pm
              Midfielder said | June 16th 2017 @ 9:21pm | ! Report

              Reaction up here is disbelief especially when we want to spend 75 million dollars on improving the stadium…

              As an aside the state government gave it to the council years ago and the stadium was built for a league team that lasted one season…

              From less than a month ago…

              http://coastcommunitynews.com.au/2017/05/mariners-seek-support-politicians-progress-stadium-redevelopment/

              MAY 23, 2017
              Owner of the Central Coast Mariners Football Club, Mr Mike Charlesworth, has used the occasion of the club’s annual medals dinner to call for politicians to support his plans for a $75m redevelopment of the Central Coast Stadium.
              The Mariners’ Medal Dinner, held at the Crown Plaza, Terrigal, on May 12, was attended by the Federal Member for Robertson, Ms Lucy Wicks, Federal Member for Dobell, Ms Emma McBride and NSW Member for Terrigal, Mr Adam Crouch.
              During his official address to the 370 guests gathered, Mr Charlesworth said he appealed to all the politicians present to support the Central Coast Mariners’ plans to redevelop the stadium.
              He said he encouraged them to do their best to persuade Central Coast Council of the merits of the Mariners’ plans for the sporting venue on the Gosford waterfront.
              “We can commit to doubling the number of events held at the stadium,” Mr Charlesworth said.
              The Central Coast Mariners unveiled their vision for Central Coast Stadium in January and formally presented it to the stadium’s current owners and operators, Central Coast Council.
              The vision was described as a bid to transform the venue into a world class entertainment hub.
              At the time, Mr Charlesworth instructed the club to formally present a management rights proposal to Council, citing concerns that the existing business model did not facilitate best practice.
              Central Coast Stadium was officially opened in February 2000 and has remained relatively untouched during its 17-years-of-existence which has resulted in the venue become dated and in need of immediate attention.
              The Mariners’ five stage concept has been devised to ensure Central Coast Stadium meets stadium best practice and becomes a weather friendly, football friendly and digitally connected stadium that can facilitate Westfield W-League double headers and more.
              Following the upgrades, Central Coast Stadium would be in contention to host concerts, bigger events and trade seven days a week through a café and retail precinct.
              The main components of a stage one upgrade to Central Coast Stadium would include: dual big screens in the south east and north-west corners of the venue; weather/sun protection over the northern grandstand; yellow seats; additional change rooms; wi-fi compatibility; state of the art sound system; upgrade of the corporate facilities (including a 100-seat function room); and, a retail and café precinct
              The Central Coast Mariners’ five stage concept also includes a hotel with unmatched views of Brisbane Water.
              “I was delighted to be able to attend the Mariners’ Medal Dinner in Terrigal and firstly want to congratulate the Mariners on an outstanding evening,” State Member for Terrigal, Mr Adam Crouch said.
              “I also want to acknowledge the passion of the team’s owner, Mr Mike Charlesworth, along with the professionalism of CEO, Mr Shaun Mielekamp and the dedication of Head Coach, Mr Paul Okon,” Mr Crouch said.
              “There is no doubting Mike’s enthusiasm for the Central Coast and his vision for Central Coast Stadium is to be commended, and I would encourage him to continue to work constructively with Central Coast Council, both prior to and post the council elections in September this year, to ensure the best outcomes for the entire Central Coast community,” he said.
              Ms Lucy Wicks, Federal Member for Robertson also offered her support.
              “As a proud member of the Central Coast Mariners, I know the local community wants to see our great club growing and thriving both on and off the pitch,” Ms Wicks said in response to Mr Charlesworth’s speech.
              “I’ve recently met with representatives from the Mariners to hear about their plans, and I committed to keep working with the club to assist from a Federal Government perspective where it’s appropriate,” she said.
              “I know that all levels of Government and the Mariners have the goal of seeing the rejuvenation of Gosford happen as soon as possible.”
              The Central Coast Council issued the following written statement in response to questions about Mr Charlesworth’s speech: “There are ongoing discussions with the Mariners about the future of Central Coast Stadium (there is no story here).

    • June 16th 2017 @ 7:30am
      Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:30am | ! Report

      Excellent news for Australian women’s sport, in general; and Australian women’s football, in particular. 4 week competition; 52 matches. Hopefully matches spread across 8 cities on the mainland that have rectangular stadiums only.

      Every Aussie girl from age 10 right now will know “I could have a chance to win a World Cup in my home nation”.
      No other women’s team sport can provide Aussie girls/women with such global sporting dreams.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 7:56am
        Jeff dustby said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:56am | ! Report

        That’s because football is the greatest. Why do other sports even bother

        Only a surfer knows the feeling

      • June 16th 2017 @ 10:05am
        northerner said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:05am | ! Report

        No other sport? Quite right. Well, except for basketball, field hockey, rugby 7s, cricket, cycling, etc etc. I hope that Australia does get the World Cup because it will encourage girls to play a great sport – and because it might finally mean some decent pay and conditions for the professional end of the game for women.

        • June 16th 2017 @ 10:17am
          Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:17am | ! Report

          “No other women’s team sport can provide Aussie girls/women with such global sporting dreams.”

          @northerner

          Attention to detail.

          Yes, you’re right about Basketball.
          The other sports? I can’t stop laughing, if you think they’re global, or in the case of cycling you think it’s a team sport.

          • June 16th 2017 @ 10:58am
            Casper said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:58am | ! Report

            Let’s face it, you really have no interest in women’s sport. This is all about point scoring for you.

            I’m sure the women that compete in the other sports Northerner mentioned, are not worried about the countries that aren’t there.

            • June 16th 2017 @ 11:09am
              Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:09am | ! Report

              I’ve been watching Women’s football – at club level & international level – since before current AFLW players were born.

            • June 16th 2017 @ 12:53pm
              Chris said | June 16th 2017 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

              A bit like you having no interest in football yet here you are again with nothing to say.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 1:16pm
                Casper said | June 16th 2017 @ 1:16pm | ! Report

                Chris – you are making a baseless assumption that I have no interest in soccer.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 1:41pm
                Chris said | June 16th 2017 @ 1:41pm | ! Report

                Ok fair enough. I don’t recall you ever having written anything remotely resembling the topic at hand. It’s usually to have a dig at the sport itself.

          • June 16th 2017 @ 1:53pm
            Mickyo said | June 16th 2017 @ 1:53pm | ! Report

            Huh, Cycling is not a team sport now ?

          • June 16th 2017 @ 2:07pm
            northerner said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:07pm | ! Report

            Nemesis: you know, you pride yourself on your ignorance of other sports, yet somehow feel competent to comment on them. I find that very interesting and more than a tad hypocritical, considering your regular refrain about the ignorance of everyone who isn’t a died in the wool football fan.

            Cycling isn’t a team sport? Really? Now I’d have said that road racing is a team sport – the whole team working together to get their man across the line. Think the Tour or the Giro. Indurain and Hinault didn’t do it on their own. In track racing, the madison is a team sport, and oddly enough, team sprint and team pursuit events are also team sports.

            Hockey is a global sport too – in mens’ hockey, there are 8 or 9 nations which are truly competitive – rather like football – and in womens’ hockey, 5 or 6 – again rather like football.

            And you’ll forgive me if I question your passion for women’s football. I seem to recall, when the disparity in pay and conditions between the Matildas and the Socceroos was pointed out, your response was, to the effect that they hadn’t earned the right to better pay. Given that the Matildas have at least as good an international record as the Socceroos, I found that, mmm, interesting.

            • June 16th 2017 @ 2:25pm
              Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:25pm | ! Report

              @northerner

              If you think there are only 8-9 nations who are competitive in football, you’re even more ignorant about The Game than I imagined.

              Field Hockey is definitely a sport I highly value, and you know I don’t value many sports other than football. It’s played widely. But, is it played as widely as basketball or volleyball? I think not.

              In relation to cycling, I won’t even bother responding. Unless you’re riding a Tandem Bicycle, it’s not a team sport.

              Just as athletics is not a team sport simply because there’s a relay race.
              However, the 3-legged race would be a team event in athletics.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 2:46pm
                Mickyo said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:46pm | ! Report

                Cycling is not a team sport lol

                All those teams and team tactics I see in many of the Olympic events are not real ?

                Lol

                Let me guess, the only real team sport is soccer ?

              • June 16th 2017 @ 2:55pm
                League table speaks said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:55pm | ! Report

                Geez he really has no idea…. unbecoming of a know it all…. The team tactics of cycling basically are the sport with the exception of individual time trials.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 3:14pm
                Mickyo said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:14pm | ! Report

                This bloke is a total embarrassment, but don’t panic anyone he will be back soon dissing everyone and everything with his vast sporting and worldly knowledge. ( rolls eyes)

              • June 16th 2017 @ 3:29pm
                Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:29pm | ! Report

                So, let’s see if I understand this correctly.

                There are people on this forum who assert that Cadel Evans didn’t win the Tour de France in 2011, but his team BMC Racing Team all won the Race?

                Staggering.

                Did all the members of this Championship Team of this most prestigious road race get presented with the trophy?

                Even in World Championship Wrestling in the Tag Team Events, both members of the Tag Team have their arms raised when the win.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 3:57pm
                League table speaks said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:57pm | ! Report

                Goodness me ….yes BMC won the tour with/for their GC rider Cadel Evans. You’re truly a hypocrite of the highest order. You’ll call out AFL fans for ignorance yet not yourself. It has to be deliberate. Yikes…

              • June 16th 2017 @ 3:57pm
                northerner said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:57pm | ! Report

                Ever heard the expression “team effort?” That’s what the great road races require. Cadel Evans certainly won the Tour, but he needed a very good team supporting him to do it. And I’m sure Cadel would be the first to agree. That’s why the winner usually splits the prize with his team.

                Oh, and just for your info, in that 2011 Tour, Team Garmin – Cervelo won the award for, you guessed it, Meilleure Equipe (aka best team).

                Now, the road races aside, care to explain why team sprints and team pursuits aren’t team sports?

              • June 16th 2017 @ 4:04pm
                Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 4:04pm | ! Report

                Yeah. And adidas won the Fifa World Cup because they’re a major partner of the German National Team.

                Utter nonsense.

                Yes, there are team events in cycling & athletics & tennis. Where all people who compete are awarded a trophy. It doesn’t make those sports team sports. Just some events are team events.

                A swimming relay is a team event. If the team wins Gold, then those team members who compete get the medal. The whole Australia Swim Team doesn’t get a medal.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 4:13pm
                Hubris said | June 16th 2017 @ 4:13pm | ! Report

                “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

                You’ve got one heck of a glory there, Fuss. A real team effort.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 4:49pm
                League table speaks said | June 16th 2017 @ 4:49pm | ! Report

                It’s an almost too perfect construction of a humourless football zealot. Or for real. Either way, yikes….

              • June 16th 2017 @ 5:03pm
                Mickyo said | June 16th 2017 @ 5:03pm | ! Report

                He’s b a c k !! ………

                Hey fuss, What is your opinion on penalty shootouts, they are not team efforts, just one on one, they decide outcomes of games, maybe even world cups.

                So the outcomes of some of the biggest soccer games dont rely on team efforts.

                What’s that you say fuss !, it is a combined team effort for penalties!, oh ok then, unlike cycling ?.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 5:02pm
                northerner said | June 16th 2017 @ 5:02pm | ! Report

                Nemesis: you are really in over your head on this. Adidas was a partner/sponsor of the German team. Garmin-Cervelo was not a sponsor, it was a team competing in the Tour. There is zero comparison between the two.

                You might want to consider the old adage: “when you’re in a hole, stop digging.”

              • June 16th 2017 @ 5:37pm
                Fadida said | June 16th 2017 @ 5:37pm | ! Report

                Before you tar all football fans with the same Fuss brush please remember that he is an outlier, the Queensland​ of 1980s Australia, and any comments he makes​ should have the disclaimer “the views of this Madman are in no way representative of anyone else on the Roar football tab”.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 5:30pm
                Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 5:30pm | ! Report

                Who won the Tour de France last year?
                Was it a team, or an individual?

                Who won the 400m gold medal for women, at Sydney 2000?
                Was it a team, or an individual?

                Who won the World Cup Final in Brazil in 2014?
                Was it a team, or an individual?

              • June 16th 2017 @ 6:20pm
                Caltex TEN & SBS support Australian Football said | June 16th 2017 @ 6:20pm | ! Report

                Oh my, another thread full of AFL-fan-boy drivel. Guys, there is nothing here of importance for you, unless, you want to support the biggest game in the world and want our Gals to be part of it..

              • June 16th 2017 @ 6:44pm
                Caltex TEN & SBS support Australian Football said | June 16th 2017 @ 6:44pm | ! Report

                @ Mickyo – you’re embarrassing yourself, yet again. Do you know how many players are involved in a penalty shoot out?

              • June 16th 2017 @ 7:16pm
                northerner said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:16pm | ! Report

                Fadida – I hang around this tab because I learn heaps about football – as a mere casual fan, I love the insights that folks like you, JB, punter,Caltex, Ben, Midfielder and some of the others can provide into the game. I hang around the rugby tab for the same reason.

                I get fairly p**ed off with the likes of Fuss, who disparages every other sport, and all women’s sport except football, without knowing anything at all about any of those sports. As he’s just proved, in spades.

                And I don’t much care for his 1950s era patronisation of women either. So, yeah, I’m going to take him up on it.

                I would never assume that he represents “football.” Got too many friends and relatives who are genuine football fans to think that.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 7:55pm
                Fadida said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:55pm | ! Report

                Northerner, I am a huge and passionate football fan, and don’t have time for other sports (small kids). Even when I did I can’t say I enjoy the other football codes, just not my thing, but I do understand that it is a case of “to each their own”. I’ve had former football teammates go on to play AFL, and have long careers, another had played test cricket,. I can appreciate other sports, even if I’m not interested in watching them. Perhaps it’s because I played most of them as a kid.

                On Fuss, I agree his contempt for other sports is galling, and is his pretence that he knows nothing about said sports, nor do his friends. How can anyone not, by osmosis, have some idea of who is where in every sport? I haven’t watched an AFL game for 20 years but still have an idea of whose near the top, and who the better players are. I neither watch mainstream tv, nor buy a paper. Within my social circle there are Football fans, triathletes, AFL fans, People talking about SOO.

                Amazingly, even within football he has contempt for a number of factions, new fans, non-A-leage fans, and a total disregard for the opinion of anyone who hasn’t coached at an international !eve!! Except himself of course.

              • Roar Guru

                June 16th 2017 @ 7:19pm
                Rick Disnick said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:19pm | ! Report

                Let a pro step in here people.

                “Who won the Tour de France last year?
                Was it a team, or an individual?”

                Both & then some.

                General classification: Christopher Froome
                Young rider classification: Julian Alaphilippe
                Points classification: Peter Sagan
                Mountains classification: Rafal Majka
                Team classification: Movistar Team

                You’re basically all wrong.

                Have a nice evening.

              • June 17th 2017 @ 6:57am
                League table speaks said | June 17th 2017 @ 6:57am | ! Report

                The ability of a GC rider to win that individual title is in VERY large part determined by the strength of his team. Same with green, less so for mountains as so many points can be picked up on breakaways. But even most of those guys dont go on a break without team director approval. Even the ability to expend effort on an individual time trial can be affected by a teams ability to nurse a GC rider the day before or after.

                Bored yet? 🙂

                Yes this is a very exciting time of year for me. I even watched a bit of the Tour of Slovenia last night. Route du Sud waiting on the DVR. 🙂

              • June 17th 2017 @ 10:54am
                covfefe said | June 17th 2017 @ 10:54am | ! Report

                “Let a pro step in here people.”

                I never knew you turned tricks Rick.

                Just when you thought you knew a person.

            • June 16th 2017 @ 7:01pm
              punter said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:01pm | ! Report

              Hey Fuss,

              What about Swimming & Athletics, their relays are teams sports, so not a individual sport.
              Michael Phelps 23 gold medals included 10 relay gold, would not be the most successful without his team mates in those relay, same as Usain Bolt 9 golds, 3 were in relay, though 1 taken off for yes. drugs.
              Golf has the Ryder & President cup, another team sport.
              Tennis has the Davis & Fed cups, plus doubles, all team sports.

              Only true individual sport is Darts.

              • Roar Guru

                June 16th 2017 @ 7:07pm
                Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:07pm | ! Report

                That all depends as to whether you view the accompanying pint of ale as a refreshment or a colleague.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 7:21pm
                punter said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:21pm | ! Report

                Good point Ben, there has been times when I have had a very serious discussion of the state of play with my pint of ale!!!!

              • June 16th 2017 @ 7:26pm
                Caltex TEN & SBS support Australian Football said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:26pm | ! Report

                Ben – I would imagine, a colleague, or like some sort of golf caddy, otherwise it would be viewed as an illegal sport enhancing drug substance.

              • Roar Guru

                June 16th 2017 @ 7:28pm
                Rick Disnick said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:28pm | ! Report

                Pretty certain I was watching the World Cup of Darts (if there’s even such a thing) only last week half drunk on Foxtel. We got knocked out by Russia in a doubles match.

                The trash-talk was fantastic.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 7:37pm
                punter said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:37pm | ! Report

                Love the Tour de France, also loving the US open today, though watching Jason Day’s capitulation was not pleasant.

                Trash talking in doubles darts, who’d thought.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 8:01pm
                Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:01pm | ! Report

                Punter, for sure.

                I said there are team events in Swimming, Athletics, Golf .. even Wrestlemania has team events.

                But, these sports are not considered Team Sports.

                I’d be surprised if anyone chooses Swimming, Athletics, Golf to be part of a team sport.

                But, maybe, I’m wrong. Maybe, Phelps just wanted to be part of a relay team & he decided to put in all those hours of training for year after year to win a Relay medal.

              • June 16th 2017 @ 8:55pm
                northerner said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:55pm | ! Report

                “I’d be surprised if anyone chooses Swimming, Athletics, Golf to be part of a team sport.”

                Perhaps not. But that doesn’t mean that there are not team events within the larger framework of the sport. It’s not a dichotomy: individual sports vs team sports. Many sports have both components. I daresay Michael Phelps was swimming relays from the time he was a tadpole, and Usain Bolt was running them. It’s part of their respective sports. There is not one sole, fixed model for what is a team sport, however much you might wish there were. Athletics, swimming, tennis but also gymnastics, ski jumping, rowing and a whole slew of sports have both individual and team components and the team events are as much a part of the sport as a whole, as are the individual events.

                And there are plenty of athletes who work their hearts out just to make an Olympic or World Championshop relay team or get a seat in a quad or eight boat.

                Bottom line: you simply don’t understand sports.

                Time to stop digging.

              • Roar Rookie

                June 17th 2017 @ 4:18pm
                Grobbelaar said | June 17th 2017 @ 4:18pm | ! Report

                Knocked out by the Ruskis in darts? Well that’s embarrassing.

            • June 18th 2017 @ 12:24am
              Mitcher said | June 18th 2017 @ 12:24am | ! Report

              You don’t get paid for comparative results tho do you. Absolutely irrelevant.

      • Columnist

        June 16th 2017 @ 3:54pm
        Mary Konstantopoulos said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:54pm | ! Report

        I think that is extremely harsh on other sports, Nemesis.

        • June 16th 2017 @ 3:57pm
          Nemesis said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:57pm | ! Report

          You’re always very reasonable, Mary. Which part is harsh on other sports?

          Maybe, other sports need to lift themselves & start finding meaningful strategies to get more girls/women to play the game.

          Rather than just focusing on TV ratings & crowds?

          • Columnist

            June 17th 2017 @ 4:05pm
            Mary Konstantopoulos said | June 17th 2017 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

            Women’s football is a tremendous product that allows women to play on a global stage. But there are plenty of others too (some which may not be played as widely as football, but still which give that opportunity). Basketball? Cricket?

            • June 17th 2017 @ 8:30pm
              Nemesis said | June 17th 2017 @ 8:30pm | ! Report

              Yes, I take your point, Mary.

              I sometimes get a bit carried away with my football focus… but, as you can tell, it rarely happens I’m normally very open to other sports. 😉

    • June 16th 2017 @ 7:44am
      RBBAnonymous said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:44am | ! Report

      It would be great if the womens World Cup was in Australia but do we really want to go through that bidding process again. Even with a new FIFA head and many new faces we did jump up and down and caused a bit of a stir with our losing bid for the 2022 World Cup. While I and the majority of people in Australia will feel it’s justified to many in FIFA we would have come off as sore losers.

      In any case the FFA has more than enough on its plate with domestic issues impacting the game. They have governance issues which FIFA has requested on more than one occassion to sort out. This bidding process will just serve as a distraction and take away resources for other more important issues ie the future of the domestic game in Australia.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 11:21pm
        Beni Iniesta said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:21pm | ! Report

        Didn’t you hear? The FFA just signed an FTA TV deal with Channel 10!!

      • June 16th 2017 @ 11:47pm
        Midfielder said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:47pm | ! Report

        RBB

        That is the one thing that does worry me too… will FFA like the last bid take their eye off the A & W leagues.

    • June 16th 2017 @ 7:51am
      jamesb said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:51am | ! Report

      I remember in the early to mid nineties, there were two tournaments that Australia hosted. The 1993 world youth football championship and the 1994 women’s basketball world cup. Both events were outstanding and really enjoyable.

      That women’s basketball world cup gave me a fresh appreciation into women’s sport, and when that tournament ended, I was a fan of Opal basketballer, Michelle Timms. Great player.

      Anyway onto the present with the bidding of the women’s world cup. It will be tough for Australia to land the event for a couple of reasons. They face tough competition from the likes of Colombia and Japan. And in football politics, Australia is still very naive.

      Moya Dodd recently lost her seat in the FIFA council, which was unfortunate. Although she is still vice president of the AFC. We definitely need her influence when it comes to politics.

      Getting the women’s world cup would be bloody brilliant. But there are many obstacles to overcome.

      • June 17th 2017 @ 9:09pm
        Swanny said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:09pm | ! Report

        James. I remember both those great tournaments

    • June 16th 2017 @ 8:02am
      Midfielder said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:02am | ! Report

      Sorry Mary just want to post something off story line… very busy day ahead will try and get back and post more but excellent news.

      However on Saturday

      For the first time, the Fed Cup final will be streamed live on Bar TV Sports.http://www.bartvsports.com.au/

      FFA Cup more important for Canberra Olympic and Tuggeranong United than NPL

      Nice read

      http://www.smh.com.au/sport/act-sport/ffa-cup-more-important-for-canberra-olympic-and-tuggeranong-united-than-npl-20170615-gwrsmm.html

    • June 16th 2017 @ 8:02am
      Chris said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:02am | ! Report

      Good to see the govt ignoring the squealing’s from threatened species like Peter Fitzsimons. Calling for them to not put any money towards the bid. I didn’t see Fitzsimons complaining about the huge govt. grant Rugby (dead in the water) got recently while 2 of the biggest female participation sports, netball and football got zero.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 8:13am
        jamesb said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:13am | ! Report

        If Australia does get the women’s world cup, then I don’t think selling red bandanas at the event would be a great idea.

        • June 16th 2017 @ 8:59am
          Chris said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:59am | ! Report

          lol true. But I’m sure he would jump on the bandwagon and say how wonderful for womens sport this all is.
          The guy is a hypocrite.

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            June 16th 2017 @ 9:47am
            c said | June 16th 2017 @ 9:47am | ! Report

            the guy is a bogan

            • June 17th 2017 @ 9:44am
              Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:44am | ! Report

              That is being unfair to bogans.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 3:11pm
        Joe B said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:11pm | ! Report

        Fitz made the observation that FIFA has done little to rid itself of corrupt behaviour, and thus more taxpayer money should not be wasted on a FIFA WC bid process. He did implore the govt spend the money on women’s grass roots sports. $45mil of taxpayer’s money was lost to the last FIFA WC bid process… 45 million dollars spent on corrupt FIFA officials. It would be great if Australia got to host the women’s WC… but I would like my tax to be used in a clean process, or put to better use in grass roots women’s sport. Not sure why you have chosen to throw hate at Fitz.

        • June 16th 2017 @ 3:15pm
          Mickyo said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:15pm | ! Report

          Exactly

        • June 16th 2017 @ 6:32pm
          Caltex TEN & SBS support Australian Football said | June 16th 2017 @ 6:32pm | ! Report

          Hate? You should ask why Fitz, hates Football?

        • June 17th 2017 @ 7:04am
          chris said | June 17th 2017 @ 7:04am | ! Report

          But never any mention of why his sport, Rugby, got a huge govt grant when the participation numbers would suggest that it should have gone to netball and football. The guy hates football. He wraps all his football stories with a layer of sneering derogatory remarks. He does the same with league. He’s a hypocrite of the highest order.

          • June 17th 2017 @ 9:45am
            Justin Kearney said | June 17th 2017 @ 9:45am | ! Report

            Fitzy hates league and football. Loves union and is developing into an afl fanboy.

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