AFL Power Rankings 2017: Round 17

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    There’s a new team at the top of the rankings.

    1.Sydney Swans
    Last week: 4
    Ladder: 6

    “The Swans’ season is over in terms of finals aspirations.” That’s what I wrote in these rankings after they lost their sixth straight game to start the season – and now here they are, having just beaten the Giants at Spotless for their ninth win in ten matches. Lance Franklin is a national treasure.

    2.Adelaide
    Last week: 1
    Ladder: 1

    Didn’t do a thing wrong in Darwin, their drop in the rankings is all about the Swans. A huge test awaits the Crows on Friday night though – the Cats have had their measure.

    3.GWS Giants
    Last week: 2
    Ladder: 3

    They’re been barely going for two months and have won just once in five weeks.

    4.Geelong
    Last week: 3
    Ladder: 2

    Running out of superlatives for Patrick Dangerfield. Daniel Menzel has kicked 33 goals this season, which equals the career-best mark he set last year – it’s so good to see him getting a decent run at it.

    5.Richmond
    Last week: 5
    Ladder: 5

    Looked lethargic early, but they flexed their muscles in the second half and ended up with a comfortable win. This week’s match-up with the Giants is huge.

    6.Port Adelaide
    Last week: 6
    Ladder: 4

    Port don’t play with their food when they’re up against a bad side. Chad Wingard is averaging career-highs in disposals, tackles, inside-50s, clearances, and contested possessions.

    7.Melbourne
    Last week: 7
    Ladder: 7

    The reinforcements are coming, but they aren’t secure in the eight just yet. The Demons really need a win.

    8.Essendon
    Last week: 10
    Ladder: 10

    It was ugly early but then it became emphatic. Joe Daniher might be a top-10 player.

    9.West Coast
    Last week: 9
    Ladder: 8
    Far from convincing, but they got the win and got Josh J Kennedy back. The Eagles still have a part to play in this season.

    10.St Kilda
    Last week: 8
    Ladder: 9

    Talk about a let-down…

    11.Western Bulldogs
    Last week: 12
    Ladder: 11

    It wasn’t particularly impressive, but the Dogs are in no position to be picky about their wins. That was a hell of a debut from Lewis Young.

    12.Hawthorn
    Last week: 11
    Ladder: 13

    The Hawks are playing some pretty decent footy. Please let Shaun Burgoyne play on in 2018.

    13.Fremantle
    Last week: 13
    Ladder: 12

    That was a classic “if you didn’t know the scores” game. The Dockers blew it against the Eagles. Another Nat Fyfe-type game from Nat Fyfe though.

    14.Collingwood
    Last week: 15
    Ladder: 14

    Healthy Daniel Wells is the Pies’ second-best player – it was good to have him back on the park. Hopefully the win stops the Nathan Buckley stories for at least a week.

    15.Carlton
    Last week: 14
    Ladder: 16

    For all the Blues’ improvement, scoring is still really hard for them. They’ll be OK.

    16.North Melbourne
    Last week: 16
    Ladder: 17

    Might not be the last time they cop a beating like that this year. There’s only so long a team can remain motivated when the season is lost.

    17.Gold Coast
    Last week: 17
    Ladder: 15

    The Suns are the least interesting team in the competition.

    18.Brisbane Lions
    Last week: 18
    Ladder: 18

    Made the Tigers work for their four points. For the second time in a month Dayne Zorko struggled to deal with a tag, he can probably expect more of that.

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    • July 17th 2017 @ 8:56am
      big four sticks said | July 17th 2017 @ 8:56am | ! Report

      The Tigers did what we had to do in one half of football. We will give the Giants a good old fashioned touch up next week.

      As for Dusty; no case to answer.

      • July 17th 2017 @ 9:06am
        The Ghost said | July 17th 2017 @ 9:06am | ! Report

        The Tigers are a destination club. Casboult will come to Richmond to do the big bullocking work down the ground, allowing Riewoldt to be free on the goal square. Papperone from Brisbane will be handy too. We don’t need Tippet as he is just an expensive Ty Vickery. I agree that Martin will get off. I am disappointed that we never got out of second gear yesterday. We should have knocked over that rabble of a club, but I guess we were resting up for the Giants.

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          July 17th 2017 @ 9:20am
          Paul D said | July 17th 2017 @ 9:20am | ! Report

          Maybe we’re just better than you give us credit for. You can have Paparone.

        • July 17th 2017 @ 11:57pm
          Slane said | July 17th 2017 @ 11:57pm | ! Report

          Casboult and Papperone? Yuck.

      • July 17th 2017 @ 9:23am
        Mattician6x6 said | July 17th 2017 @ 9:23am | ! Report

        Will your boys touch up the giants before or after they beat you? And don’t you think that is a little inappropriate especially after the week the AFL has had?

        • July 17th 2017 @ 1:45pm
          The Ghost said | July 17th 2017 @ 1:45pm | ! Report

          GWS may be a team of champions but Richmond is a champion team. Champion teams win premierships.

          • July 17th 2017 @ 1:58pm
            Birdman said | July 17th 2017 @ 1:58pm | ! Report

            I’m taking that comment with a bucket of salt

            • July 17th 2017 @ 5:17pm
              peter chrisp said | July 17th 2017 @ 5:17pm | ! Report

              Funny comment by The ghost GWS may be a team of champions but Richmond is a champion team & champion teams win premierships & with 6 rounds to go it will be interesting to see how The Tigers go GWS, Gold Coast Hawkers Cats@ home Freeo, & Saints 3 out of 6? and the last game of the season once again The Saints can they make it 2 in a row?

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      July 17th 2017 @ 9:28am
      JamesH said | July 17th 2017 @ 9:28am | ! Report

      “Healthy Daniel Wells is the Pies’ second-best player”. As good as Wells is, it’s pretty damning that the second best player in a side that is supposed to be developing is 32 years old.

      The Pies badly need to nail their first round draft pick.

      • July 17th 2017 @ 12:19pm
        I ate pies said | July 17th 2017 @ 12:19pm | ! Report

        When is the pressure going to start on Pendlebury? He’s hardly given a whimper this year.

    • July 17th 2017 @ 9:51am
      Egbirt said | July 17th 2017 @ 9:51am | ! Report

      Tbh who have the swans beaten that are of any significance apart from the Giants – who in any case have been struggling as is mentioned here?

      • July 17th 2017 @ 10:08am
        Birdman said | July 17th 2017 @ 10:08am | ! Report

        yeah, the Swans are def. back in town but maybe 1st is a bit OTT.

      • July 17th 2017 @ 10:11am
        Jimmy said | July 17th 2017 @ 10:11am | ! Report

        I’m getting pretty sick of this kind of response. No matter who we beat there will always be someone downplaying our effort. We beat Bulldogs, Saints, Demons, Tiger and Bombers all of whom were top eight.

        • July 17th 2017 @ 10:22am
          Egbirt said | July 17th 2017 @ 10:22am | ! Report

          Well honestly they haven’t really been beating teams any better than Port have but there are still question marks over them (Port) so why shouldn’t there be the same questions about Swans? Not saying swans aren’t good – obviously they’re firing – but I’d be holding back a bit and waiting for a few more big scalps before backing them so much. And yes I know you can only beat who is put in front of you.

          • July 17th 2017 @ 10:28am
            Jimmy said | July 17th 2017 @ 10:28am | ! Report

            Ok fair enough I tend to agree and you never know with this even comp when your time is up. First is a bit of a stretch, I think Adelaide or Geelong should be up a bit higher.

            • July 17th 2017 @ 11:05am
              Birdman said | July 17th 2017 @ 11:05am | ! Report

              Jimmy – I might be going early given the Hawks have a trip to WA and a 6 day break before taking on the Swans again but I’m feeling Sydney’s run might be snapped soon.

            • July 17th 2017 @ 11:08am
              swannie said | July 17th 2017 @ 11:08am | ! Report

              Yeah, fair call Egbirt. Shouldn’t get too excited about the Swans until after Cats at Spotless and Crows at Adelaide.

              Its a nice comeback for the true believers though after the tripe they served up in the first 6 rounds.

              • July 17th 2017 @ 12:07pm
                Egbirt said | July 17th 2017 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

                Thanks…very true though, they have come back extremely well! Can’t believe they’re knocking on the door of the four – yes, four!

            • Roar Guru

              July 17th 2017 @ 11:10am
              Cat said | July 17th 2017 @ 11:10am | ! Report

              GWS should be falling further too.

              They’re been barely going for two months and have won just once in five weeks.

              Yet have dropped only 2 spots in that time.

              • July 17th 2017 @ 12:20pm
                I ate pies said | July 17th 2017 @ 12:20pm | ! Report

                Potential Cat, it’s all about potential for GWS.

              • Roar Guru

                July 17th 2017 @ 2:18pm
                Cat said | July 17th 2017 @ 2:18pm | ! Report

                Which is not what ‘Power Rankings’ are about … at all. Potential is not even a consideration.

              • July 17th 2017 @ 11:58pm
                Slane said | July 17th 2017 @ 11:58pm | ! Report

                Geelong should be number 1 as far as I’m concerned. Staggering how everybody keeps overlooking their season.

              • Roar Guru

                July 18th 2017 @ 2:55pm
                Cat said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:55pm | ! Report

                I’m happy to be not rated, let every other club win the March, April, May, June, July and August Premierships. I only care about the real one in Sept/Oct.

    • July 17th 2017 @ 10:29am
      Macca said | July 17th 2017 @ 10:29am | ! Report

      On the blues goal kicking, while it would be great if McKay develops a little quicker on the weekend they got themselves planty of chances to score, just blew it, Kreuzer getting run down in the second, Nick Graham missing a wide open Silvagni in the third which meant instead of taking an uncontested mark 20m out dead in front he collected the ball near the boundary under pressure, Casboult missing from 15m not to mention all the turnovers around the 50m arc and long balls in (which we should have done more often) that were to the wrong side of Casboult, Curnow or Kreuzer.

      These little things are relatively easy to improve – especially as we replace honest tryers with higher quality youngsters.

      • July 18th 2017 @ 1:35pm
        sammy said | July 18th 2017 @ 1:35pm | ! Report

        Off topic macca, but following on from our debate last year. From another forum, there has been debate re trading Lever. then someone mentioned the gibbs saga last year. This poster put up a comparison between gibbs and Lyons (formerly of crows now at GC) saying gibbs is only a slightly better upgrade on Lyons. The numbers this year are not too far apart. I recall we had differing opinions of Lyons and looking at his stats this year, he has done well again after a pretty good year last year. I think the last year’s 1st round pick and lyons ultimately would have been a very fair trade now that some time has gone past and almost 2 seasons worth of form can be looked at…your thoughts based on current stats

        http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=A&tid2=24&type=A&pid1=1719&pid2=3504&fid1=S&fid2=S

        • July 18th 2017 @ 1:53pm
          Macca said | July 18th 2017 @ 1:53pm | ! Report

          Sammy – I have only seen one Gold Coast game this year (when the blues won) so can’t comment too much on Lyons but statistically he has been pretty solid – although gibbs is leading him 28.7 (17th in the league) to 25.5 (45th) on disposals, 5.3 to 3.9 on marks, 0.9 (122) to 0.6 (199 with about 20 other players) on goals, 6.1 (25th) to 4.6 (77th) on tackles and 19.9 to 17.6 on effective disposals and the Suns are ranked 4th in the league for disposals while the blues are ranked 15th so not sure I would say that Gibbs is only “slightly better”.

          And one of the key issues wold be Lyons being about to turn 25 – if Lyons was 20-21 the blues could well have taken him but at that age with just one average year behind him I think the blues were right to say no.

          The other question is does he fit the blues as well as he does the Suns – I don’t think I can answer that.

          • July 18th 2017 @ 1:56pm
            sammy said | July 18th 2017 @ 1:56pm | ! Report

            fair assessment and it is hard to argue. With the first round draft pick added in, it is looking like a close call value wise

            • July 18th 2017 @ 2:02pm
              Macca said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:02pm | ! Report

              Close but further apart when you consider the blues valued an 18 year in the draft much higher than a 24 year old considering where their list is at.

              Another thing that is needed to compare is Lyons ability to develop and lead the young players with Gibbs.

            • July 18th 2017 @ 2:11pm
              Macca said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:11pm | ! Report

              Sammy – one thing you could answer me on, I notice Lyons gets a lot of clearances and contested possession – what is his speed like?

              Perhaps the blues saw him trying to play the same role as Cripps?

              • July 18th 2017 @ 2:14pm
                sammy said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:14pm | ! Report

                He didn’t have the pace of dangerfield – but not many do. He was no slouch though. I think the crows traded him for unders to Gold Coast – a low 40’s pick, but then again, that is the crows to a tee…must be the softest club in the league to do business with

              • July 18th 2017 @ 2:20pm
                Macca said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:20pm | ! Report

                Looking at who the blues drafted and who they are playing I would suggest his age and not having elite pace made the blues value him lower than other teams might.

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                July 18th 2017 @ 2:57pm
                Cat said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:57pm | ! Report

                must be the softest club in the league to do business with

                I dunno Geelong would be a very strong contender for that.

              • July 18th 2017 @ 3:12pm
                Macca said | July 18th 2017 @ 3:12pm | ! Report

                I wouldn’t say Geelong are soft but they are good to deal with. They no the value of what they want, they no what it is going to take to get the deal and they get it done. If you look at the deals Geelong has done with Carlton the last 2 years both teams have been pretty happy with the end result.

              • Roar Guru

                July 18th 2017 @ 2:58pm
                Paul D said | July 18th 2017 @ 2:58pm | ! Report

                I’m with Cat. Geelong the best club to do business with, Essendon are the worst

              • Roar Guru

                July 18th 2017 @ 3:20pm
                Paul D said | July 18th 2017 @ 3:20pm | ! Report

                I can only go on our trading experience – they have given us Walker, Jansen and Christensen off the top of my head, all at very reasonable prices and minimal haggling. When players want out they let them go and just make it nice and painless. Great club

    • July 17th 2017 @ 11:09am
      Sammy said | July 17th 2017 @ 11:09am | ! Report

      Sorry. Crows should currently stay top as a big win vs the dees who were in strong form themselves should not facilitate a drop. If they can beat geelong would you be nice and put them back there

    • July 17th 2017 @ 12:20pm
      I ate pies said | July 17th 2017 @ 12:20pm | ! Report

      I’m surprised at peoples surprise at the Swans doing so well. It’s like they forgot that they finished on top of the ladder and played off in the grand final last year.

      • July 17th 2017 @ 7:40pm
        Kaniel Outis said | July 17th 2017 @ 7:40pm | ! Report

        GWS stands for Good Win Sydney.

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