Membership numbers mandate a Buckley extension

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    Collingwood are back on top. Not on the ladder – but back to the top of the membership table released by the AFL.

    The timing of this could not be better for Nathan Buckley with the release of the 2017 membership numbers mandating the direction of the Collingwood Football club under Eddie McGuire.

    With the members supporting the administration, McGuire will be able to leverage the result for a Buckley extension of a minimum of two years.

    Meanwhile, the Collingwood 2017 season draws to an inevitable closure and another failed campaign, the behind the scenes review continues including a football department review overseen by the experienced Geoff Walsh.

    The days, perhaps weeks following the final round game against Melbourne will see heightened focus as even while the 2017 finals combatants are in battle at the serious end of the season, the Pies will make news.

    Amidst the hysteria around Buckley, Eddie McGuire, Gary Pert and company, and even the recent sacking of Suns coach Rodney Eade, the club has stood firm, confirming that Buckley will indeed see out his current contract to the end of the 2017 season.

    Nathan Buckley Collingwood Magpies AFL 2017

    (Photo by Robert Prezioso/Getty Images)

    Any news story on the Pies sells papers, generates advertising revenue too with clickbait digital articles on the Pies no doubt well accepted by eager editors looking to increase the digital metrics and subsequently increase advertising revenue for their media organisations.

    Love or hate the Pies, most would have to agree the club has stood firm and presented a united front against this mass media hysteria and Buckley is still there pushing his young team, measured, calculated and calm in every performance.

    The fact is Buckley won’t be “sacked” regardless. His current contract will either be renewed or it won’t. He will not be a sacked coach whatever happens.

    What will happen? The club will be looking into all facets of the football department including fitness staff, psych, assistant coaches and the head coach.

    Will they judge Buckley on his performance from 2012-2016 or purely look at 2017 is the question. Geoff Walsh is an experienced operator and I believe he will purely focus on the here and now, 2017.

    Why? Well, whatever happened in the past, Buckley and his emerging list are all different to 2012-2016. Thoughts heading back to the succession plan are wasted. Thoughts about 2014 -2016 injuries are wasted.

    What is done is done and the fact is the club achieved a premiership in the midst of the succession plan.

    To 2017, on the percentage ladder, which takes away the close wins and losses element out of the game the Pies sit 10th with a likely loss coming up against the Demons.

    Injuries have been less of an excuse this year though they have still had their share. The general consensus is final eight was the target with perhaps one final win.

    Ultimately, 2017 then is a failure – though not as drastic as the hysteria suggests.

    Who has improved under Buckley this year? Jeremy Howe, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Brodie Grundy, Adam Treloar, Taylor Adams, Jordan De Goey, Tom Phillips, Josh Thomas, Brayden Maynard. That’s a fair crop of players showing improvement under the current coach.

    Will Hoskin-Elliott Collingwood Magpies AFL 2017

    (AAP Image/Dean Lewins)

    Whether it is Buckley or a new coach in 2018, the list is not as bad as some make out with one of the best midfields in the game in Daniel Wells (if he can stay fit), Treloar, Scott Pendlebury, Adams, and Steele Sidebottom.

    Grundy is an important signing to come as one of the best young rucks in the competition. Ben Reid is showing signs he can play forward, particularly if he trains for it pre-season.

    No doubt Jake Lever will be a priority recruit but it won’t be easy to get him. Lynden Dunn has been a surprise and low-cost success down back as he curtails the jumping forwards of the competition and has a booming kick to clear the zones.

    Who has potential for rapid improvement based on what we have seen at senior level in 2018? De Goey, Maynard (could become a Hodge style Mid/back), Darcy Moore, Matthew Scharenberg, Tom Langdon, James Aish, Callum Brown, potentially Tom Phillips and Josh Smith.

    The other key decision for the Pies at the end of the year is if Buckley is not the man than who? Do they go down the assistant coach path?

    Paul Roos is probably not the answer, he seems pretty comfortable in his media career. Brad Scott, though tied to North would be a good fit. He has coached at the Pies before and was highly thought of in his time at the Holden Centre.

    One thing is clear, the club does not pay heed to the media hysteria and will look at all available candidates for the next coaching contract, including Nathan Buckley.

    There may well be some sort of major surprise to all in the final conclusions to the drama. Who knows, maybe a radical co-coaching arrangement or even Mick Malthouse back into the fold in the original position he walked away from in 2012 as Director of Coaching with Nathan reappointed under him.

    I believe the membership figures just released have now mandated a contract extension for Buckley. Expect the announcement shortly after the final game.

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    • August 22nd 2017 @ 4:27am
      Chris said | August 22nd 2017 @ 4:27am | ! Report

      The membership numbers were high this year because of the sense of expectation that surrounded the club in February. Now, this may not be the case come March 2018. I am anxiously awaiting to see what eventuates with the helm of our great club. Change is preferable but only winners should be signed on. Maybe Bomber Thompson?

      • August 22nd 2017 @ 9:26am
        Brayden Rise said | August 22nd 2017 @ 9:26am | ! Report

        Chris, a valid point that the memberships were purchased on some expectation of success this year. Bomber is the interesting one. Not sure if the media have addresses any interest with him as yet? Would the shake up be enough for the Pies fans who want a new coach if say a Bomber Thomson and Luke Hodge were brought in as assistants under Buckley or will the broken Pies fans only be happy with Buckley removed from the club?

        • August 22nd 2017 @ 10:07am
          Chris said | August 22nd 2017 @ 10:07am | ! Report

          This reminds of the time that Tom Hafey took over. We were all fed up and had no spirit left in our souls. We wanted fight and Tommy gave us just that. I think Bomber will instil a lot of spirit and fight and bring back heart to the CLUB. I love Collingwood. The Club is bigger than the individual and the reality is that Eddie, Nathan and Gary are not going to save the Maggies. The coach and the players backed by vociferous supporters will bring on the real Johnston Street magic again. No more charlatans and no more would-be coaches. If you want a rookie, then go for the Blondie from Waverley who is in the West at present. He is a proven fighter and a winner too. No half baked ideas. Passion and will to win….Bomber Thompson or Sam Mitchell. If Mick Malthouse wants to help out then I’d have him give Mitchell his undivided support because too much has gone on between Buckley and Malthouse for fences to be mended at this late stage.

          • August 22nd 2017 @ 3:05pm
            Gordon Smith said | August 22nd 2017 @ 3:05pm | ! Report

            I personally think that the games changes are so rapid and subtle that anyone out of the game got too long will never get back in. Also the next generation of players do not respond to the way coaching was even 5 years ago. The game is full of graves of dreams of the saviour eg Pagan, Malthouse Andy Eade. As much as I admire Thompson I hope for his sake he is not tempted.

            • August 22nd 2017 @ 9:20pm
              Chris said | August 22nd 2017 @ 9:20pm | ! Report

              I ALSO THINK THIS LATEST ARTICLE ON MEMBERSHIP IS A BIT OF MEDIA SPIN ORCHESTRATED BY EDDIE. THE TIMING APPEARS PERFECT SO THAT HE CAN REAPPOINT HIS MATE AND GAIN EXTRA POINTS WITH THE PUBLIC. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING WHENEVER A PLAYER DICTATES HOW THINGS ARE RUN AT A CLUB THE CLUB GETS INTO REAL TROUBLE. CAST YOUR MINDS BACK TO WHEN WHEN PETER MOORE GOT TOMMY HAFEY SACKED. BUCKLEY GOT MALTHOUSE SACKED BY INSISTING ON THE SUCCESSION PLAN. ON BOTH OCCASSIONS WE WERE IN THE WILDERNESS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS., 1982-1988 2012-2017…..HISTORY HAS A HABIT OF REPEATING ITSELF. CHANGE IS THE ORDER OF THE DAY….

    • August 22nd 2017 @ 5:16am
      Ads said | August 22nd 2017 @ 5:16am | ! Report

      Was this ghost written for Buckley? Its a puff piece!

      He has failed as a coach, pure and simple. He’s taken a premiership side and utterly destroyed it. Tactically he has no clue – he starts with a plan and as soon as the opposition counters it he’s lost, he has no plan b.

      I’ll be tearing up my pies membership if they reappoint him, and I doubt I’ll be alone. 6 years of misery is enough..

      • August 22nd 2017 @ 2:32pm
        Mickyo said | August 22nd 2017 @ 2:32pm | ! Report

        Agreed

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        August 22nd 2017 @ 4:42pm
        Mike Huber said | August 22nd 2017 @ 4:42pm | ! Report

        +1

      • August 22nd 2017 @ 5:25pm
        Horrie said | August 22nd 2017 @ 5:25pm | ! Report

        Spot on.

        “One thing is clear, the club does not pay heed to the media hysteria and will look at all available candidates for the next coaching contract, including Nathan Buckley.”

        I think the President creates enough hysteria on his own.

        The Pies list is ok but would be better if they did not apply cheque book quick fixes.

    • Roar Guru

      August 22nd 2017 @ 7:31am
      Cat said | August 22nd 2017 @ 7:31am | ! Report

      Collingwood memberships are high because every sponsor they sign up is given hundreds of free memberships as part of the sponsorship deal.

      Collingwood average home attendance:

      2012 – Buckley’s first year in charge: 59,799 per game (ranked 1st)
      2017 – Buckley’s last in charge? 46,374 per game (ranked 4th)

      That’s a lot jumping off the bandwagon.

      • August 22nd 2017 @ 9:29am
        Brayden Rise said | August 22nd 2017 @ 9:29am | ! Report

        Cat, a solid point on crowds however in 2012 the Pies were coming off a flag in 2010 and Grand Final in 2011. A bit different coming into this year and the slow start for the Pies in 2017 caused an early drop off. Not sure if “hundreds” of giveaways would hurt too much on the table, only dropping them to second maybe under the Hawks, still a strong result.

        • Roar Guru

          August 22nd 2017 @ 9:36am
          Cat said | August 22nd 2017 @ 9:36am | ! Report

          Its hundreds per sponsor. Multiply it by how many sponsors you have. Twenty-six listed here http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/partners.

          So if your members drop off due to lack of club success, isn’t that ultimately the criteria that should be used, success and not memberships? Buckley has had 6 years of worsening results every single year.

          • Roar Guru

            August 24th 2017 @ 2:54pm
            Cat said | August 24th 2017 @ 2:54pm | ! Report

            Because this isn’t the Collingwood fan page. It’s an open website for anyone to comment on. Go eat a bowl of concrete and harden up precious.

          • August 24th 2017 @ 3:00pm
            Reservoir Animal said | August 24th 2017 @ 3:00pm | ! Report

            Flossy, this is an open forum. It’s not just limited to Collingwood fans.

            • Roar Rookie

              August 24th 2017 @ 3:10pm
              Lord Dunsborough of the MCC said | August 24th 2017 @ 3:10pm | ! Report

              I would have thought the number of multi-syllable words in use was a giveaway on that front

    • August 22nd 2017 @ 7:46am
      Reservoir Animal said | August 22nd 2017 @ 7:46am | ! Report

      The only reason Bucks is getting reappointed is because no experienced coach wants to work for Eddie, and Eddie is too arrogant to appoint a rookie.

      The rest of us just laugh as the Magpies continue to sink further every year.

    • August 22nd 2017 @ 8:13am
      Burkey said | August 22nd 2017 @ 8:13am | ! Report

      I tend to agree, thought before they needed a change but now think they should stick with Buckley as he has finally learned the craft. A good read Brayden without the hysteria.

    • August 22nd 2017 @ 8:41am
      Birdman said | August 22nd 2017 @ 8:41am | ! Report

      Pretty sure AFLW memberships helped the Pies edge their way to the top as some of the other big clubs don’t have a AFLW team

      • August 22nd 2017 @ 12:16pm
        Brayden Rise said | August 22nd 2017 @ 12:16pm | ! Report

        It’s certainly close at the top Birdman….Pies, Hawks and Tigers doing amazingly well and the Bombers after their past few years troubles appear to have exceptionally loyal members too. In fact, the Bombers membership numbers a story in itself.

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