Jason Behrendorff needs to be part of Australia’s Ashes plan

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    The Australian team has returned from their subcontinental tours and the area where their Ashes campaign seems to be on track is the bowling attack.

    With Mitchell Starc expected to be fit, his collaboration with Pat Cummins and Josh Hazelwood has already raised the expectations among the fans.

    The backup pace option is still vacant, though.

    James Pattinson has been having terrible luck with injuries and been ruled out, while it looks like Jackson Bird will miss out due to injury as well.

    However, this might work well for Jason Behrendorff, who is probably in line to be picked in the squad, after a stellar Sheffield Shield season and playing brilliantly in the recently concluded T20 series in India, where he accounted for four top-order wickets.

    The 27-year-old bowled quick and swung the new ball, which makes him an exciting prospect. He also has a brilliant domestic record, with 123 wickets at a stellar average of 22.92. The other crucial statistic is his strike rate – a measly 43.9.

    Behrendorff had a stellar 2016-17 season, picking up 37 wickets in seven games, at an average of 17.59. He also picked up a record 14 wickets in a game with the best of 9-37 in an innings, against the eventual champions Victoria, last season.

    With sharp pace and swing in his repertoire, he will be a welcome addition to the Australian pace attack. Even though Australia already has Starc, who is also a left-arm pacer, Behrendorff provides something different.

    Having been on the selectors’ radar for some time, injuries to others and his impressive returns over the last year or so make Behrendorff a prime candidate.

    The Ashes is a long and hard series and the Aussies need good backups. Being a left-arm bowler also gives him an added advantage, as he makes for a good replacement if Starc needs to be rested.

    Jason Behrendorff has done everything this year to get noticed by the selectors and his chances seem bright for the Ashes.

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    • October 17th 2017 @ 3:26am
      Mike Dugg said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:26am | ! Report

      Yep needs to be first cab off the rank when an injury occurs during the series. Could possibly be better than Starc in the end. The Dorff from what I’ve seen bowls a much more consistent line than Starc.

      • Roar Rookie

        October 17th 2017 @ 12:26pm
        Russell Neville said | October 17th 2017 @ 12:26pm | ! Report

        I saw him bowl in the T20 in India and was very impressed, my thoughts were exactly as yours, that he could eventually be better than Starc. He doesn’t look as strong as Starc but he swung the white ball beautifully and any Lefty that swings it late back into the Right Handers has always been dangerous. Have you or anyone else seen him bowl with the red ball?

        • October 18th 2017 @ 1:48am
          Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 1:48am | ! Report

          All the time. His Shield stats tell you what he can do with the red ball…and Joel Paris does it better and faster. You’ll enjoy it when he is fit (has just started playing grade cricket again).

          Then there’s NCN and Simon Mackin and Jhye Richardson and David Moody and Matt Kelly and Andrew Tye is somewhere around there too…

          Australian cricket is strongest when the West is healthy.

    • October 17th 2017 @ 7:28am
      Andrew said | October 17th 2017 @ 7:28am | ! Report

      I haven’t seen much of Behrendorff so could someone tell me how his radar is compared to Starc. With Starc especially early, he would bowl alot of loose deliveries and I’m wondering if Behrendorff has the same problem. Also I think I read somewhere that he bowls mid 140’s which sounds good.

      • Roar Guru

        October 17th 2017 @ 7:49am
        Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 7:49am | ! Report

        From the little I saw him in the T20’s in India, he was very accurate and did not give too many loose balls to hit. He troubled the Indian top order with his pace and swing in both the games.

        • Roar Guru

          October 17th 2017 @ 9:05am
          JamesH said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:05am | ! Report

          Yep, if his body is ready, he would be a handy backup.

          We’re in this weird situation where our three first-choice pacemen are fit but the two guys most likely to come in if there is an injury (Bird & Pattinson) aren’t. That leaves Sayers and Dorff as the obvious candidates.

          I think the number 6 and 7 spots are very intriguing. Maxwell is on a knife’s edge at the moment and he’ll need a reasonable Shield showing to confirm his spot. What might help him is if they pick Carey or Whiteman as the keeper. In that case they wouldn’t want an inexperienced player at 6 – a lineup of Handscomb, Cartwright and Carey would look pretty raw for an Ashes test.

          • October 17th 2017 @ 9:30am
            Pedro The Fisherman said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:30am | ! Report

            Certainly couldn’t play Carey at 6 but Maxwell needs to go!

            • Roar Guru

              October 17th 2017 @ 11:31am
              JamesH said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:31am | ! Report

              I wasn’t suggesting that they should, just that they might want someone with experience at 6 if they have Carey at 7.

              Maxwell still needs to show a bit in the Shield to hold onto his spot, tho.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 12:40pm
                jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

                Whiteman is injured. Forget about him for the Ashes.

      • Roar Guru

        October 17th 2017 @ 9:06am
        Chris Kettlewell said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:06am | ! Report

        He’s probably a similar height to Starc, bowls reasonably accurately and swings it. He wouldn’t be as quick as Starc, but can get decent pace. He’s certainly a quality bowler. If not for injuries he almost certainly would have played for Australia before now. Unfortunately, whenever a spot has opened in the Australian team because of injuries to other fast bowlers he’s pretty much always been injured himself at that time!

      • October 17th 2017 @ 1:27pm
        Timmuh said | October 17th 2017 @ 1:27pm | ! Report

        Radar: far more reliable than Starc.
        He’s been my pick every time a spot has opened up for about three years now. Except when he was injured.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 4:09pm
        Alex L said | October 17th 2017 @ 4:09pm | ! Report

        He’s Starc but slightly worse in every respect including injury history.

      • Columnist

        October 17th 2017 @ 6:33pm
        Ronan O'Connell said | October 17th 2017 @ 6:33pm | ! Report

        Andrew, Behrendorf bowls most of his deliveries in the 137-140kmh range with the ability to nudge 143/144kmh when he really bends his back and is in good rhythm.

      • October 18th 2017 @ 1:54am
        Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 1:54am | ! Report

        The Dorff is in the high 130s to low 140s consistently. Very accurate but his strength is control of swing (both ways), something Starc has never quite managed.

        Talking about pace, I’d love to get a speed gun on Henry Thornton from the CAXII. I reckon he’d have to be regular 150s. Quite a short run up but really strong through the crease. Better action than Shaun Tait but seems just as quick.

        • Columnist

          October 18th 2017 @ 8:09am
          Ronan O'Connell said | October 18th 2017 @ 8:09am | ! Report

          Thornton has only once played a professional match with a speed gun present (BBL debut last year) and was clocked at 147kmh.

          After Starc and Cummins, Thornton has looked the next quickest bowler in the JLT Cup. Impressive for a 20yo.

    • Roar Rookie

      October 17th 2017 @ 7:48am
      Clayton Waters said | October 17th 2017 @ 7:48am | ! Report

      He is a serious player. I’ve always liked him. He needs to have a big start to the shield season and then I think we will see him in the picture. Andrew – you are right. He’d average around 135-140. Tall bloke and gets them to leap. Very smart T20 bowler and has done the job for the Scorchers over the last 3 years. I believe he was injuried for most of the 2015/16 season and then came back to play the final. Justin Langer loves him too. He has big positives.

      • Roar Guru

        October 17th 2017 @ 8:43am
        Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:43am | ! Report

        Yup Justin Langer was all praise for the youngster. He has had a good year and has been injury free.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 2:40pm
        BurgyGreen said | October 17th 2017 @ 2:40pm | ! Report

        To be fair, JL backs all his WA guys pretty hard.

        • October 18th 2017 @ 1:57am
          Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 1:57am | ! Report

          He has sifted a few out. The team has risen on players that do the little things. If someone coasts, they fall off the pace.

    • October 17th 2017 @ 8:15am
      jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:15am | ! Report

      I’d be surprised if the big 3 quicks all make it through all 5 tests.

      Who is next? The Aussie selectors might see Dorff only as an obvious like for like replacement for Starc. I think that’s a bit harsh. I think Dorff could be next in line if either Starc or Cummins go down. Cummins is that rare combination of a strike bowler and holding bowler, like Rhino Harris used to be.

      If Hazey got injured, I’d normally put Bird in. If BIrd is out, I guess Sayers. The guy’s record deserves recognition.

      So with Patto out, I’d have Dorff backing up for Starc and Cummins, and Sayers backing up for Hazey. NCN somewhere in the frame after showing good form in India, and P Sids not completely out of the picture, esp for the Hazey spot. I don’t know how sharp Sids has been, but his returns in the one day comp have been outstanding.

      I think those guys are at the head of the queue.

      • October 17th 2017 @ 8:26am
        Andrew said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:26am | ! Report

        If only our batting was as easy to work out as the bowling!

        • Roar Guru

          October 17th 2017 @ 8:44am
          Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:44am | ! Report

          The batting is much more complicated. But again there are only two spots which are under contention, the number 6 spot and the wicket keeper spot. The rest of the batting is almost certain.

          • October 17th 2017 @ 8:46am
            jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:46am | ! Report

            The no.6 spot is between 2 guys. I hardly see that as complicated. The top 5 are more important, and are set unless one loses form consistently.

            That’s not too tough.

            • Roar Guru

              October 17th 2017 @ 8:51am
              Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:51am | ! Report

              Yup you are right, the top 5 in Australia is set. It is almost certain that Australia will start with this in the first test:

              David Warner
              Matt Renshaw
              Usman Khawaja
              Steven Smith
              Peter Handscomb
              Glenn Maxwell
              Nevill??
              Mitchell Starc
              Patt Cummins
              Nathan Lyon
              Josh Hazelwood

              I am thinking they might give Maxwell a go at least in the first test. Nevill probably will get the nod as the keeper? Not sure.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 8:55am
                jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:55am | ! Report

                I agree Maxwell has his nose in front now, but if Cartwright gets 2 tons in the 3 Shield games and Maxie doesn’t do so well, they could easily go with form.

                I have no idea who will be our keeper for the 1st test though. Wade, Carey, Nevill or even Handscomb (unlikely). I think it will be one of those 4, but I have no idea who. If Carey scores a lot of runs he might push his way to the front. We now have signs at last that the selectors are losing patience with Wade.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 6:45pm
                Tanmoy Kar said | October 17th 2017 @ 6:45pm | ! Report

                What about Marcus Stoinis in place of Maxwell?

        • October 17th 2017 @ 8:44am
          jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:44am | ! Report

          It is. Top 5 picks itself, for now at least.

          No.6 is the only question, and tbh I’m leaning towards The Hilton. His FC record is good and he scores consistently. His bowling can gradually improve, but is not the priority. It’s like the former days when new the young guy could come in at 6 and then work their way up the order, although that top 5 won’t be going anywhere (age wise) for 5 years. Khawaja and Wwarner are the oldest, at 30.

          I think that top 6 could do well for several years. And the 4 primary bowlers are 24, 26, 27 and even Gazza is only 29.

          We just need to sort out the wicket keeper.

          • Roar Guru

            October 17th 2017 @ 9:15am
            Chris Kettlewell said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:15am | ! Report

            Renshaw is probably the most precarious of the top 5. Handscomb has looked pretty solid, though many have questioned his technique as potentially having significant flaws that bowlers could exploit. So the question then becomes can he fend off any attempts of bowlers to “work him out” and keep doing well, or will those technical issues become a major problem like Ballance for England who started well but then got worked out and has been hopeless since.

            For Renshaw, he’s had some good signs so far, but has been nicking off a lot which suggests technical issues that need to be addressed. Whether he is able to address these while remaining in the team, or, like many batsmen who quite young when first selected, will need to get dropped at some point, go back to first class cricket and work hard before getting back into the team, is yet to be seen.

            But certainly there aren’t really any question marks over either of those two as far as selection for the first test. (Though, if we had a situation of really poor form, like an inability to get out of single digits in the first three shield matches, combined with other batsmen scoring lots of runs, it’s possible the selectors could still put those positions under scrutiny.

            • Roar Rookie

              October 17th 2017 @ 10:29am
              Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:29am | ! Report

              I get the feeling that Handscomb’s in a similar mold to Smith; he might have unorthodox technique, but he looks capable of being able to work around any bowling that could otherwise be troubling for him. He’s had a good enough run now that he should only be one more good series away from guaranteeing his spot in the side.

              Renshaw needs an standout series this summer, otherwise I think he absolutely needs to be sent back to Shield. It was a dodgy selection that we got away with because he was in good form at the time, but he’s been dropping off sharply since beating Pakistan. He’s been getting out early to the pacers too often. Too young and inexperienced, let him have a few good seasons in FC before bringing him back. Reinstall Burns if Renshaw can’t pick himself up, he didn’t deserve to be dropped.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 10:33am
                Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:33am | ! Report

                Burns isn’t an opener right? So Khawaja joins Warner at the top? If Renshaw is dropped?

              • October 19th 2017 @ 7:06am
                The danno said | October 19th 2017 @ 7:06am | ! Report

                3 and 4 are two of your strengths. Choose a real opener.

              • Roar Rookie

                October 17th 2017 @ 10:35am
                Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:35am | ! Report

                Burns opens for the Bulls in Shield cricket, and played there for most of his tests. Usually in Shield cricket it’s Burns + Renshaw opening, and Khawaja at 3.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 10:45am
                Rellum said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:45am | ! Report

                He did start in the middle order but then the whole thing about him not liking waiting to bat got around and he ended up opening.

                Based on his technique I think he is much more suited to batting at 5. Labuschagne open.

              • Roar Rookie

                October 17th 2017 @ 10:57am
                Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:57am | ! Report

                If opener’s not his optimal position, he’s done pretty well to mostly average >40 there. Makes his scapegoating even harsher.

                Labuschagne’s an opener? Seems weird to have him at 4. Or is he just suited to opening?
                QLD’s lineup looking more and more all over the place now, no wonder we’re not doing well.

                So if Renshaw was dropped and Burns recalled, would it be:

                1. Khawaja 2. Warner 3. Smith 4. Handscomb 5. Burns?

              • October 17th 2017 @ 11:45am
                Rob JM said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:45am | ! Report

                Cartwright averaged 50 at 3 last year. Id have him in the top order before burns.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 11:08am
                Rellum said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:08am | ! Report

                Burns is an opener now. That is how they would see him and where I assume he will stay.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 12:44pm
                jameswm said | October 17th 2017 @ 12:44pm | ! Report

                If Cartwright starts at 6 and does ok, then if Renshaw is dropped, I’d put Ussie to opener and bat Cartwright at 3.

                Then we find a different no.6 – Maxwell, Head, Lehman etc.

                I’ve never been sold on Burns. Just doesn’t quite look good enough. Head would be up there for me.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 1:47pm
                Chris Kettlewell said | October 17th 2017 @ 1:47pm | ! Report

                On a side topic, Labuschagne for player of the 50-over tournament again? He’s almost exactly the same distance down the list of top runscorers as he was last year, (around 10 ahead of him), so he must be in with a good shot of going back to back! ;-P

              • Roar Rookie

                October 17th 2017 @ 1:56pm
                Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 1:56pm | ! Report

                Burns averages 39 with 13 centuries and 32 fifties in FC. Head averages 34 with 5 centuries and 22 fifties.

                How is Head the better option?

              • October 18th 2017 @ 9:31am
                Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 9:31am | ! Report

                Would those averages change if you only went with the past 2 seasons? We do want current form, not career form.

              • October 19th 2017 @ 7:04am
                The danno said | October 19th 2017 @ 7:04am | ! Report

                It should always be on career form otherwise you make those doolan selections.

              • October 19th 2017 @ 9:29am
                Don Freo said | October 19th 2017 @ 9:29am | ! Report

                Doolan was not a terrible selection. We had few alternatives then. We have a wealth of batsmen now.

                Doolan just failed to grab his chance.

                If it was career, not form, Adam Voges would not be retired.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 2:44pm
                BurgyGreen said | October 17th 2017 @ 2:44pm | ! Report

                jameswm said: “If Cartwright starts at 6 and does ok, then if Renshaw is dropped, I’d put Ussie to opener and bat Cartwright at 3.”

                I agree with sending Khawaja up but I’d have Smith at 3 and then Cartwright and Maxwell at 5 and 6.

              • October 17th 2017 @ 7:21pm
                Nudge said | October 17th 2017 @ 7:21pm | ! Report

                Why does Renshaw have to have “an standout summer this series”? Australia finally get a quality young kid that compliments Warner, who knows exactly his role as opener, knows how to leave the ball, and takes the shine off the ball for Khawaja Smith Handscomb to prosper, and people are keen to get rid of him. The lads 21 and averages nearly 37 in test cricket from 10 tests which 6 of them have been in the sub-continent. That’s a ripping start from someone so young. His form isn’t as bad as what people are making out either. He was getting so much praise after the first 3 tests in India for holding Australia’s innings together a number of times, he just didn’t go on and make a big score. Yep he ran out of gas late, but surely that was no shock to anyone considering his age and having his first test tour to India. Then in Bangladesh he held Australia’s innings together in the first innings of the first test when Warner, khawaja, Smith and Handscomb were dropping like flies around him. Second test he was caught down the leg side which is as unlucky a dismissal you can nearly have in cricket, then second innings he was out chasing quick runs when Australia were chasing a small victory target and were trying to get them before stumps on the fourth day.
                Personally I’m not the slightest bit concerned about him, he’d have to have a disastrous first 3 tests to be dropped. The guys a gun and I’m very very confident he will have at the very least a rock solid ashes series.

              • Roar Rookie

                October 17th 2017 @ 8:00pm
                Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:00pm | ! Report

                Renshaw’s averaged 25 in the past 6 tests. If you cherry-pick further and start from Maxwell’s second stint, his average drops to 19. He can occupy the crease all he likes, but a good opener also needs to score runs, and he’s been dropping off. For every innings where he’s batted deep, there’s been two where’s he’s been dismissed too cheaply.

                If his performances have been impacted by his age, as you say, then he’s too young. He’s been outscored by Warner, Smith, Maxwell and Handscomb. It can’t be an overriding excuse, especially when there’s blokes in good form being given the flick after just a couple of poor showings.

                I like Renshaw, and I absolutely think he’s a player of the future, but that’s not the present. He was only selected as part of a flawed overreaction, and he needs to go back and build himself up properly. He’s too young and hasn’t been scoring enough runs.

              • October 18th 2017 @ 2:05am
                Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 2:05am | ! Report

                Burns would help his case by getting more runs than Shaun Marsh.

              • Roar Guru

                October 18th 2017 @ 8:14am
                Chris Kettlewell said | October 18th 2017 @ 8:14am | ! Report

                Renshaw doesn’t need to have a “standout” season, but he needs to score some runs. He’s young, he’s got time, if he gets dropped he can come back. A lot of batsmen, especially ones that are quite young when first selected, find themselves dropped at some point, go back to domestic cricket, work on their games, get better and then come back again. Many of the best players of all-time have had that happen. If there are certainly area’s where he’s getting “found out” regularly, then often the best thing is to work on them in domestic cricket before coming back rather than just persist in the team and try and work through all those issues on the world stage.

                I hope that he just has a good summer in the Ashes and doesn’t need to get dropped. But the worry for me is the frequency of caught behind dismissals in recent times. He’s been nicking balls he should be leaving alone a fair bit. If bowlers can just keep bowling balls a bit outside off stump and eventually he’ll play at one and edge it, that’s a problem. And one that I’m hoping he works out and goes on the score lots of runs.

                He also needs to just find some areas to pick up singles. Just find ways to keep the scoreboard ticking over. He has shown he can get stalled very easily. In that situation he doesn’t need to start hitting boundaries, but just finding regular singles and getting off strike.

                He can play the role of holding down the other end while Warner goes, but to do that he needs to at least be able to rotate the strike and get Warner back on strike. He needs to make sure he doesn’t make Warner feel like if Warner gets a single off the first ball of an over that Renshaw is just going to face 5 dots, but that more often than not he’ll be able to find a single and get Warner back on strike.

              • October 18th 2017 @ 9:34am
                Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 9:34am | ! Report

                Renshaw is being wrongly type cast as stodgy. He has all the shots.

                He’ll be fine. His ability to read a game is something special.

          • October 17th 2017 @ 8:51pm
            Nudge said | October 17th 2017 @ 8:51pm | ! Report

            It’s a hell of a lot different batting in the sub continent then batting in Australia, that’s where you’re starting his 25 average over the past 6 tests. It’s not easy batting in India, especially for a kid at his age where most talented kids are making their way through grade cricket. To have a better series than Warner, Handscomb and the Marsh brothers is a decent effort. I suppose it shows how difficult every batsman found it over there, bar Smith. When you consider that, I think his average is a touch better than it looks. But as mentioned his 25 average over the last 6 tests have all been on the sub continent. You aren’t going to see Moeen Ali and Mason Crane with the new ball in their hands at the start of day one at the Gabba.

            • Roar Rookie

              October 17th 2017 @ 9:31pm
              Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:31pm | ! Report

              He did well in the first two tests, his last four were awful, hence his average of 19 in that period. The thing is, the India pitches, with the exception of the first test, weren’t the immediately-raging dustbowl turners usually produced (and funnily that pitch was the one Renshaw did best on). Yes, they were difficult, and yes, he deserves credit for the good knocks he did produce, but it was shown that with care and application you could still go all the way, and he didn’t do that enough.

              The conditions in Bangladesh were very similar, and every batsman bar Wade outperformed him considerably there. Besides, he wasn’t getting out to spin most of the time, he was constantly nicking off to average pacers in non pace-friendly conditions. That’s a concern. That pattern’s showing itself in the JLT cup as well, it hasn’t gone away.

              That’s why I think Renshaw needs an outstanding series. He hasn’t been consistently occupying the crease and he definitely hasn’t been scoring enough runs of late. Let him build himself up back in Shield cricket, most great players have had to do it at some point in their careers. It’s not like he’s going to be left out for the rest of his career if he is (unlike many very good players over the past few years who were given far fewer chances).

              • Roar Guru

                October 19th 2017 @ 9:47am
                Giri Subramanian said | October 19th 2017 @ 9:47am | ! Report

                I think the 3 games ahead of the Ashes will be crucial for Renshaw and also Khawaja to build some confidence ahead of the Ashes. Both have had poor returns in recent times and are almost certain to make the X1 for the first test.

              • October 23rd 2017 @ 4:35pm
                deccas said | October 23rd 2017 @ 4:35pm | ! Report

                He’d have to have a pretty dire first 3 tests to get dropped this series. He;s played 10 tests, 6 away in challenging conditions most players struggle on when they get there. Most struggle on their first tour as well. He doesn’t need to average 60 to not get dropped.

          • Roar Guru

            October 19th 2017 @ 9:49am
            Giri Subramanian said | October 19th 2017 @ 9:49am | ! Report

            I think the top 5 will remain the same but the number 6 spot will be an interesting one. There are quite a few contenders. Maxwell, All-rounders etc..The Shield games also will tell us a lot as to who might be in line for that spot and obviously the wicket keeping spot is open as well. Wade will be lucky to be picked. It is almost certain to be between Alex Carey and Peter Nevill.

      • October 18th 2017 @ 2:02am
        Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 2:02am | ! Report

        If Hazlewood goes down, The Dorff is the perfect replacement. He is more that kind of bowler by way of bowling long spells rather than bursts. Cummins can do that too. Starc is best in explosive bursts…as is someone like NCN.

        Gee, our attack is well set up this summer. Even support for The Goat from Agar and Swepson.

    • October 17th 2017 @ 9:34am
      Paul said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:34am | ! Report

      This is the sort of summer that should make any Shield player want to work as hard as they can. Australia is not touring so guys who are performing in the Shield could be called upon, at short, notice, to replace anyone in the side. It’s not like a tour when the guys selected most often replace the guy injured. This is great chance for any quality cricketer, in form, to get a run because it’s safe to say, there will be injuries.

      Names keep cropping up as replacements for various players but surely the guys who are in form at the time should be selected? We need at least one opener, one middle order batsman, one spinner, one keeper and one quick, to be really performing if Australia is to have average coverage for the Tests.

      The interesting thing is, England will have the same issues only more so, if history is a guide. They are especially weak in the batting department, especially if Cook or Root go down.

      • Roar Guru

        October 17th 2017 @ 9:38am
        Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 9:38am | ! Report

        Cummins and Starc will go after the England top order with lot of quick short deliveries in the early part of the series. It will be interesting to see how they cope with it. If Australia can get Cook and Root cheaply the rest of the batting order will be under pressure. It will be interesting to see how the English players handle the Aussie bowling this time.

        • October 17th 2017 @ 10:03am
          Paul said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:03am | ! Report

          If you compare the England & Indian Test sides, India has a quality ready made replacement in just about every position from 1 to 11. England has brought out guys like Vince & Ballantine who average less than 30. This MUST mean the guys left behind are worse then that. If ANY batsmen is injured or out of form, who do England turn to? In India’s case, it’s easy. In Australia’s case, lets get the guy making runs and in form in the Shield. There are plenty of guys who are good enough to make the next step if required.

          • Roar Guru

            October 17th 2017 @ 10:27am
            Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:27am | ! Report

            Yeah it will be interesting to see the shield season when it begins later this month. I am sure lots of players will be out to impress the selectors ahead of the Ashes. Does Australia have coverage of the games on TV? Or in Cricket Australia website?

            • October 17th 2017 @ 11:21am
              BurgyGreen said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:21am | ! Report

              Yeah, they’ll be streaming it on cricket.com.au. The streaming quality last season though ranged from near-TV quality at Adelaide Oval to a wobbly handheld camera with no commentary at Hobart.

              On the other hand, the JLT Cup stuff this year has been consistently good, so maybe that’ll continue for the Shield.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 11:38am
                Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:38am | ! Report

                Okay will catch some action when the season begins. Hopefully the quality is good.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 11:40am
                Rellum said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:40am | ! Report

                It was up the State associations to organize their home steams, I am hoping CA will setup up the broadcasts so they are consistent or demand a basic standard of Broadcast from the States. If they are going to embrace streaming then do it properly.

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 3:11pm
                Ryan H said | October 17th 2017 @ 3:11pm | ! Report

                Agree, JLT OD Cup coverage has been substantially better than I expected. The commentary makes a big difference too as it’s almost a bit stale watching without any.

    • October 17th 2017 @ 10:07am
      Curious George said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:07am | ! Report

      Maxwell needs to go! He is a dolt

      I hate the “give him a go in the first test” nonsense

      Pick the team for the series and stick with them

      A wafer thin Aussie batting lineup that i can foresee going through many collapses

      e.g. Warner out cheaply poking at a wide Broad delivery

      or Smith (the snowflake) jabbing a loose Broad bouncer

      • Roar Guru

        October 17th 2017 @ 10:28am
        Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:28am | ! Report

        Smith is a fantastic player and Broad has been struggling over the past year or so. Not sure what you are talking about.

        • Roar Rookie

          October 17th 2017 @ 10:32am
          Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:32am | ! Report

          He just likes to bring up how much he hates Maxwell at any opportunity; and presumably Smith and co. for being his “mates” and picking him (apparently).

          • October 17th 2017 @ 10:59am
            Curious George said | October 17th 2017 @ 10:59am | ! Report

            Smithy Snowflake needs his enforcers on the field so he can big mouth

            No one would dare touch Wade or Maxwell in a bar tussle

            Smith however, is still yet to spout his first beard hair would be demolished like the guy Stokes touched up

            Stokes looking like he is on the plane too (to play 2nd test onwards)

            • October 17th 2017 @ 11:19am
              Jeffrey Dun said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:19am | ! Report

              “Stokes looking like he is on the plane too”

              What have you heard CG ? What’s your source ?

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 11:24am
                Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:24am | ! Report

                There isn’t any news about Ben Stokes Ashes availability. It is all a speculation at the moment.

            • Roar Rookie

              October 17th 2017 @ 11:21am
              Matthew Pearce said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:21am | ! Report

              Whatever you say.

        • October 17th 2017 @ 11:01am
          Curious George said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:01am | ! Report

          Giri : Broad will go up a notch against the convicts

          Warner just a swiper and a poker

          Needs to watch himself

          Wade to make 10 in first test when picked

          • Roar Guru

            October 17th 2017 @ 11:25am
            Giri Subramanian said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:25am | ! Report

            Warner is amazing at home and I don’t think Wade will play considering his poor form leading up to the Ashes.

            • October 17th 2017 @ 11:37am
              Curious George said | October 17th 2017 @ 11:37am | ! Report

              What do people predict?

              Wil Stokes play in the Ashes???

              I reckon he will

              He should be rotting away in the jail cell with some thugs to keep him company during wash time

              • Roar Guru

                October 17th 2017 @ 1:52pm
                Chris Kettlewell said | October 17th 2017 @ 1:52pm | ! Report

                All the English people I know seem pretty certain he won’t, that the ECB will have to put discipline ahead of the team. It’s a tough call to make, but when you look at the severity of the offense and compare to other punishments that have been given for much lesser things, it’s hard to see any way that he makes the Ashes at all.

      • October 18th 2017 @ 2:07am
        Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 2:07am | ! Report

        Curious George, you hate the “give Maxi a chance stuff”.

        I hate the “Maxwell is a dolt” stuff.

        • October 18th 2017 @ 1:10pm
          Curious George said | October 18th 2017 @ 1:10pm | ! Report

          Here is a kleenex for your torubles Don

          • October 18th 2017 @ 1:27pm
            Don Freo said | October 18th 2017 @ 1:27pm | ! Report

            I don’t have any “toroubles”. Never have.

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