Your comparing a springbok, and in fact rugby legend with cooper says all there is to say about your credability.

Sammo,

You should be a detective. Some one writing on the roar fans section of the website is an amature writer. Good work. When is someone supposed to write? After nothing? Wallaby fans are frustrated at the consistent inconsistence.

Q Cooper is joke. I love how the foxsports commentators completly ignore his absolute inability to tackel. He is a disgrace on the game. Maybe he should go and steal a copy of “tackling for dummies”.

Deans can hardly put together a sentence I have no idea why people thought he would be able to put together an international rugby team.

So I was wrong (and not for the first time this year). I am first to accept the Bokke did not play to the standard we have seen them in the past. To lose like that is heart breaking…

John Smith and Victor Matfield, well done.. You guys sure shut your critics up.

Guys, it just would not be me without the following comment:

That ball did not travel 5m and Well done Barns (the english one).

Thats all I will say, the Wallabies played hard and the Springboks played badly (especially in the first half) but who really deserved the win? Who showed the guts of a reald world champion side? Who dug deep when things got tough, and who dropped their balls when the oppo came back at them? To say that win is lucky is an understatement. Barns could not wait to give away that penalty. I’ll let you decide. But if the Springboks won a game against the All Blacks like that, I would not be happy.

The world cup should be a very intresting tournament.

Not as regularly as 5 wins in more than 14 years

Would the last time the wallabies played the lions be more than 9 years ago? Hmm yep. did they make more than 10 changes to the side after having won the first two matches?

One win so far? Wow, your right it does sound famalier… 2009 when you only got one win! congrats, you look set to do it twice in a row!

Nope a australian team winning twice doesnt seem famalier to me in super rugby, probably because a south african team has won three times

and the only bricks around here are the springboks and all blacks defence’s stopping the wallabies from winning yet another match!

Jiggels, according to you the Springboks are not capeable of beating the All Blacks in New Zealand? They are not capeable of beating Australia in Australia? Is that what you are trying to say?

Lets talk about over achieving. NZ has 121,928 registerd rugby players, as of 07… Thats 6th most in the world and australia? Well u guys have 140,000, 20 000 more than the kiwi’s. I do not see them complaining? and as for money, maybe the shitty crowds have something to do with lackof dough? Whats causes shitty crowds I wonder? Well that would be losing.

Go on say it, the lack of crowds is due to union not being the number 1 sport. Well I went to suncorp and saw it full with the reds winning this year for a change… so maybe thats the answer but hey lets keep selecting private school brats and we’ll keep the aru close to bankrupt.

Hayden, they didnt win in ireland and france becuase they did not take their best sides over, they were tired and bruised from a hard fought tri nations. Mind you it probably should have been called Bi Nations considering only two of the teams have had a genuin chance at winning it for the past 9 years.

Perhaps not much, but if you followed the debate you would realise that my point is the Wallabies keep slecting players who have achieved nothing. The Springboks on the other hand (I.e, Habana, matfield, smit etc…) have proven they are able to achieve everything and anything in the rugby world. There is not a team they cannot beat nor a tournament they cannot win. Compare thats to “Gits” and the boys, what have they achieved to justify selection week after week after week despite poor match losing performances?

Luckily for me, I live in solid brick. Perhaps refuting my argument is a better approach than clever little analogies?

Springboks have achieved, Wallabies have not. Have you anyting to say to that end?

true enough, the selctions have been dumb in some cases (janurie being a perfect example) but most of the player selections such as Smit and Matfield are players that have proven them selves, they have done and achieved all there is to achieve in the rugby world. What has this current crop of wallabies achieved? How are their selections justified? Dean Mumm, Richard Brown, Matt Gitue, A & S Fiangaa, Ma’afu. What have these players done to deserve selection week after week despite poor match losing performance’s?

Botha and De Villiers both made stupid errors (Botha not for the first time, it mus be said) but these two players have proven their worth over many many seasos, so to say they are bad selections because they made one stupid mistake is ignorant.

Thanks for the adive Ivan, but perhaps you missed my point? I am not bragging about the Sprinboks being better than the Wallabies simply because they wear the green and gold (wallabies wear gold and green, not green and gold). But what I am saying is that the Wallabies make dumb decisions in selection and even more stupid decisions during the match (yes robbie, thats you)… I would also like to point out that a couple WALLABY fans have agreed with me here and these sorts of idea’s come from the people with which I speak at work, uni, footy etc… All Aussies who are sick of the terrible selections and decisions all to be told “we r building to a world cup”.

And on a different note, exactly who in the All Black or Springbok team would elsom replace?

Private school brats is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge problem in australian rugby. 100000% agree

Brian your totally right, 9 players were missing in the first 3 tests of the 3N… I mentioned that to a good mate of mine (a kiwi i might add) and he replied with

“oh shit… Thats acctually scary with the wc around the corner and those guys coming back”

If they lose, I’ll never write another article predicting a boks win before a Wallaby test. =P

Been a shocking season for me (tri nations anyway, I ripped it up in the super 14 and a comp I have going with my friends. We make picks on every game that involves a tri nations or six nations side as well as argentina. Been going since 2007 after the wc, and finishes next wc)

I felt nervouse just b4 the ab’s game but not the wallabies, specialy not ouside of australia.

Francois Steyn is bettter I think

JP has proven himself… Has O’connor? I dont think he has, although I think he can b a future superstar of the game

Habana worse than Mitchell? Wow big call, on current form possibly but as far as the bettr quality player well….

Morne Steyn is a better defender than cooper and has a much much bigger boot. i guess it depends on the style, i dnt think cooper would make the boks side, but morne steyn wouldnt make the wallabies either.

I am with you on spiece, I think Kankowski is better but he is still better than brown

Burger is not the fetcher that Pocock is but he is an amazing player

Sharpe better than rocky? ignorance? Frustration? I dont know how anyone could arrive at that conclusion

John Smith has not been great no, bu Moore is not better than Du Plessis, so I am not too concernd

benn robbinson is better than Jannie, who I am not a big fan of.

Is that not always the case? Been a bad tri nations for me as far as my pick go because I do have a tendancy to think more with my heart than my head, but where the sense lies is that i see the Sprinboks compete with the All Blacks and beat the Wallabies and when the Wallabies play the All Blacks… Well we have all knowen the result before the match for the last 3 years at least

The bulls and stormers dominated the super 14 last year. Its is nothing to go by at all…. So your point about Genia doesnt exactly mean much. Besides he was out played on sunday.

The boks have the better line out, sharp or no sharp and bekker is just going to make that more of the same.

Yep, you r right we have not yet seen Brussow but I bet a million he will be an amazing asset again.

Hoy, I agree with Pocock, he is a master and a truly amazing find. I say it every time the Wallabies play “there is a great player.” And Robinson is not bad, but that he is the best in the world is arguable from yay and nay. The wallabies do have more injured players, perhaps but consider the quality of player. Fourie du preez for example, Genia was out played by the Boks second best half back, what happens when he is up against the best? The Wallabies lineout was shocking, but what happens when the Boks have bekker in the mix? And like you say, Pocock is a true fetcher… Brussow ruled the world last year (ask ritchie and the boys. Or Brian and his bunch) and Bismark Du Plessis, well he is without doubt at least a contender for the best in the world…

Just for the record, I dont hate the Wallabies. I would like to see them win (not against the boks of course, but the Ab’s and the rest of the bunch) , but with the players they keep selecting it wont happen.

Nick, no offence mate, but read my above comment. The wallabies lose every where outside of australia… they have only won 5 games ever in aus and nz… so to say they dont like loftus is dumb because they dont like it anywhere.

Ahh, very keen of you guys to notice that the Springboks have only won one game this year… Good on ya scotland yard. Did you guys look at the rap sheet of both sides during your investigation? Judging by you comments, I dont think so. This springbok side are world champions, mandela plate holders and untill recently freedom cup and tri nations champions. They have beaten the lions and won the super rugby tournament. They have a proven record that says that they are more than capeable of being the best. What do the wallabies have to show? 2001 was their last tri nations win… they have won only 5 games EVE away from home in the tri nations (so much for only being bad at the high veldt) and this group of players is not exactly the best they have ever had… My question to you, in what regard are the Wallabies even slightly better than the Boks? What makes this Wallaby team world beaters like the current Springboks have been? Sure cooper might be a better fly half in terms of distribution, but does he tackle like steyn? no, he doesnt tackel at all. Does he kick like steyn? Only in his dreams.

Oh and BTW the boks have bigger injury concerns than the Wallabies. No Bekker, Brussow, Fourie Du Preez, Bismark Du Plessis and we only just got back Frans Steyn and Juan Smith… Do you honestly believe the Wallabies are capeable of beating the springboks at full strength?

I also love how all of you are quick to piont out that my article is ridiculouse and false, yet no1 (with the exception of some1 saying cooper for steyn) has given an example of the Wallabies having the better player. Funny that.

Well written article, and pretty amusing but I have an issue with it. Its non sense… Altitude does not have that effect on people. I played rugby when I lived in South Africa (I still do now, here in Brisbane) and we lived in Durbs at sea level, went up to the highveldt very little, but when we did we had zero altitude problems. The Sharks and Western Province are from sea level and they play at altitude and thats never ever ever an issue.

I have been living here in Brisbane for the best part of 4 years now and I lived in Auckland for 7 years and when I got back, I play rugby with my cousines and altitude is not an issue. Genia him self said that it had zero affect on them. Surely is a scape goat?

Perhaps Deans went with BB and AF because he is unsure of what game the boks are going to bring? With Francois Steyn back in the side (thank god) Deans might be thinking that they dont want to get stuck in their own half with no real recognised kicker other than MG… If the boks play a running game then AF would be the best option for his straight running and defence…. BB does like to kick.

because knock out games are the ones that count in a world cup

“this site is about respectful sports debate” hmmmm…

…Just a quick question. Why does that ony apply to some people?

Nope, it would not be.

I just dont like the way in which he writes about the Springboks.He has an anti South African undertone, thats what I dislike.

Anyway, enough about that… I am not commenting any further with regards to spiro.

Wanna ask me something about my article, go ahead, I am happy to answer 🙂