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Yes, but he also says we are top of our group with one year to go. Obviously muddling things up big time
Australia slide down in new FIFA rankings
Your explanation doesn’t; make a whole lot of sense, since you have made alterations to what you believe FIFA rankings “should be”, based on the timing of their realise, but still use FIFA’s ranking as clear example of us supposedly improving. You also got the members of a current groups wrong, listing teams from our group from the previous year of World Cup qualifying – 2016, yet you still say we are just one year from the 2018 WC. Check your facts a lot more before authoring an article here.
Australia slide down in new FIFA rankings
Not that it was written last year, but written now, using information from the previous stage last year. Why is the author penning articles likes this, and why is it still allowed on this site. Almost everything in the article is wrong.
Australia slide down in new FIFA rankings
This whole article is a pile of rubbish filled with inaccuracies. It’s like someone with a vague knowledge of the game, decided to contribute and article, went and got some information, but screwed up and provided information from a year ago.
We sit third in our group, a group which includes none of the nations the author mentioned.
We just moved up in the rankings, not down. Not that Fifa ranking mean very much
Australia slide down in new FIFA rankings
I think it is pretty clear that the ALeague has improved as a standard and is now equipped to
at least financially incentivise our players to stay at home, as opposed to going to place like
Romania, Poland, Scotland or League 1 in England. There is also a need to stay positive about
the ALeague and support it. It is also important to note that having more Socceroos from
the Aleague and leagues near by, allows our player more time together and helps our team
to gel and be more cohesive. There isn’t as huge a gap as we experienced in the past, for the
strength of the NT, based on whether or not or European players were available.
Having said all of that, I think this reduced gap is caused more by the fact that we aren’t producing
players who are competing in the quality leagues of Europe. We don’t have to worry about getting
our European stars back, because frankly we don’t really have them. I can’t remember a time when
the playing stocks for the first 11 or two at the NT’s disposal has been so low, People have been going on for
ages about how much ‘depth’ we have, which I think is mostly rubbish. We just have a number of players
who are at a similar, as in, not top quality level.
This problem seems to be getting worse and worse and the fact that we now really only have Leckie
playing in a top 5 European league, in a team in the relegation zone in the Bundesliga at that, is hugely
concerning for me. We don’t even have players in leagues at a tier lower than the top 5, such as Holland,
Belgium, Portugal, Russia, heck even the better teams in places like Switzerland. We have a handful
of good central midfield type player players in the Championship and Rogic at Celtic, in addition to
Leckie, who doesn’t have the overall game to be really be considered quality.
We were supposed to start producing higher quality players with the influence of the new curriculum,
the goal posts seem to keep getting shifted as to when the results of which are starting to kick in. Our
youth teams continue to fail to make tournaments, and I cant think of a time since going back to 1997,
or even before this, when we couldn’t have put together better first team for the NT than now.
What is going on?
The Australian football media is lowering the national team standard
I totally agree with the first part of your comment, where you point out
that it is silly to try and argue that the Aleague outdoes Belgium’s league.
I also think that the HAL overall is lower than Scotland or Denmark,
when you factor in their bigger teams, but the source you provide to support
you argument, is also pretty ridiculous.
EPL at Seventh, Italy at two, Argentina
at four. The IFFHS uses flawed methodology to draw conclusions. France above
England. You have to look at strength throughout the league and not just
make an assessment of how the better teams in a league compete in continental
competitions. You also have to consider the structure of different leagues and how
teams within them value continental competitions. Those rankings are pretty absurd.
I know where I would ideally prefer our Socceroos to be, and that is back in the EPL or Germany,
or the better performing teams in Spain and Italy.
The Australian football media is lowering the national team standard
I think we have to be a little bit more honest here. The HAL has improved since it’s inception,
the business model and long term viability of the league is in a far better place than the old
NSL, but to try and pretend that the league is of overall higher quality than Belgium is considerably
partisan and pretty ridiculous really.
Maybe some of the HAL teams are of similar quality to the
lower Belgium teams, but are league just doesn’t compete with somewhere like Belgium at
all when you factor in the big teams. As for Scotland, the league is probably weaker than
Belgium overall, and I actually think some of the HAL teams could be featuring reasonably
high in the table. However we don’t have any teams who could match Celtic or the resurgent
Rangers in the long term.
The Australian football media is lowering the national team standard
I’m just not seeing it. On forums I keep seeing posters wax lyrical about our current stocks, but I still see our overall talent pool being as weak as it has been for a long time. It’s kind of ironic because I have often been one to be overly positive and effusive about the talent at our disposal.
We have some handy players, and probably unlike much of our past, a coach and a system that has our players combing well in a cohesive way. I think unlike our past, this has much to do with the increasing familiarity that playing together a lot generates.
In terms of quality of player stocks, we may have improved since the late Rio qualifying era, however compared to what we have had since largely about 1998 onwards, I still think our current team on paper and our prospects are generally weaker today. I’m trying to think back now to qualifiers against Argentina back for USA 1994. I reckon to be fair, even then we had more talent.
To me this begs the question of why aren’t we producing many players capable of performing well in Europe’s big leagues lately?
Several young Socceroos on the rise
Bloody hell Nemesis. Why do you continue to stubbornly stick to your party line,
regardless of what is obviously occurring. I think it is pretty obvious that our playing
stocks at the moment are very poor. I would say that talent available to the national
team is perhaps the worst since I have been old enough to be able to assess it.
This goes back to at least 1997 (we all know what happened then), but on review,
perhaps even as far back as the 1993 Qualifiers against Canada and Argentina.
You say we have 3 players in the EPL? Who are you talking about, Smith and
Federici? (They never play) who is the other?
2 in the Bundesliga? Who are they? Leckie who’s former team just got relegated
and so is moving to a team that see-saws between the Bundesliga and the 2nd Divison?
Are you counting Langerak, who’s team just go promoted?
You are twisting the situation to support a narrative. Even if we did accept the numbers you
put forward (which you can’t really do at all), that is still a pretty poor array of European-based
players.
Players we have had in the past, lets say 2005, 2006 were playing and usually starting every week for their EPL and Serie A teams. in 2006 we had Culina playing for a Dutch team that had just made the
Champions League semi-final. So we didn’t really have players playing for the really big clubs, but
we had a lot doing very well in EPL teams in the top half of the table.
Wake up, it is time to assess why we aren’t producing the same quality of players we did in the past,
not stick out heads in the sand and pretend things are going well.
FFA should re-think its marketing of the Socceroos