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Over the past three seasons GWS have traded away Cam McCarthy, Jack Steele, Paul Ahern, Pat Mckenna, James Stewart, Will Hoskin-Elliot, Rhys Palmer, Matt…
If entertainment was the purpose of the AFL trade period, the line that it should be far, far shorter might hold. Because with the…
The growth in home grown talent is encouraging. Notably, Sydney Swans advocated for many years for a NSW academy, so this was overdue and we didn’t need a second NSW club for that to happen – but agree, it is something that is working for GWS. Re. growth in junior teams in Westerns Sydney, this is overstated due to 33 new girls teams (which is still great, but doesn’t feed into GWS men’s talent) and the inclusion of 22 teams from two established clubs rezoned from the Sydney Harbour region – so doesn’t count toward net growth in player teams. The like for like increases in youth teams in Western Sydney (U12 – U17) between 2012 and 2018 is actually just 6 teams (from 43 to 49).
A Giant fail: GWS are turning wine into water
Close – he’s Gilbert’s nephew, Shane. Crows received him from Carlton as part of the McGovern trade. He was a mature age player and touted as potential second round pick, some had him as high as pick 20, so I assumed a trade value of pick 30, to calculate his draft points value.
A Giant fail: GWS are turning wine into water
You may be 100% correct Bernie, but that does not refute the point of the article. 1. There is an attrition problem (even though Gil denies a retention issue) – the cause doesn’t alter the reality. 2. The Giants are receiving back less value back than they ‘pay’ for these players, so they are continually losing ground. Unless something changes, this will continue.
A Giant fail: GWS are turning wine into water
If Channel 9’s treatment of Lisa Wilkinson’s departure is the benchmark – as you imply, then Adelaide’s treatment of Lever is relatively mild.
Halt the hysteria, Tex Walker was just being honest
Thanks for thorough analysis Ryan. One minor point – Melbourne traded their first round pick of next year to Adelaide, so that has happened this year.
Why this year’s quieter AFL trade period is a sign of things to come
The Tippet and Franklin recruitments came out of the blue from the Swans and as you say Stuart, ran completely against their previous ‘moneyball’, value driven approach to trading. That it happened at the same time GWS entered the comp suggests getting ‘drawcards’ became a priority, in an expected battle for fans. No doubt the Swans are winning on that score. Ultimately though, when asking why did the Swans sign Franklin, I’m reminded of the old joke, “why does a dog lick it’s balls? The answer – ‘because it can’.”
Have the Swans lost their 'Bloods' culture?
Agree Josh, Port must be paying well over 500k based on the compensation pick alone. Also significant that Motlop’s brother and cousin both played for Port and Hinkley previously coached Motlop at Geelong. As for Port, after recruiting Ryder, Dixon, Rockliff, Motlop and possibly Watts, their salary cap must be tight? How much money is left for next year when Boak, Gray and Wines come out of contract in 2018?
Port Adelaide's classy Motlop moves leave the Crows looking silly
Thanks Scragger. The unusual thing with GWS during this period is every player exited was traded for draft picks, not players. This made it easier to quantify their value, using the draft index. That is what makes this an objective measure and proof of value erosion, irrespective of the mitigating circumstances others cite. If other clubs have trade players for players, assigning likely draft value for the incoming players will be subjective – hope someone has a crack at it though!
A Giant fail: GWS are turning wine into water