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South Africa isn’t very comparable with Australia in this respect. Crowd sizes are far bigger and it could have close to 15 teams with good crowds, so even losing more elite players would have to go a long way to seriously endanger the popularity of the game.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

They might not as the Australian teams would then start to win, and RA would therefore make more money.

Moana Pacifika is a fine team but it’s not designed to do what a South Auckland team would do and raid NRL youth ranks and take over the whole area for rugby. As south Auckland is such an opulent talent pool, the other new team in North Harbour would train their guns on raiding it from league too.

The NRL are likely to get more acquisitive and will aim to plunder New Zealand with or without a new team, so both New Zealand need to expand (as should Australia, though it’s harder) to fight them off.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

Super rugby crowds in New Zealand aren’t stellar, so let’s imagine what would happen if the All Blacks started to choose overseas players.
Firstly not only would the entire All Black squad leave, but even the All Black hopefuls who probably fill a couple of other Super teams would choose double pay abroad.
At this point the Super rugby teams in New Zealand would be a skeleton of what they are now. Almost every match-winning player would be gone.
Crowds wouldn’t have any All Blacks or standout players to watch.
And then what about the results? Even against Australia’s troubled teams if you took away the whole All Black squad and another 30 or 60 players from the New Zealand franchises they would start to lose to the Australian teams, and wouldn’t win the tournament.
Then if the crowds aren’t great now, who would turn up to watch New Zealand franchises being beaten by Australian ones every week?
So without crowds and viewing figures on TV down, you suddenly have a financial shortfall.
Would you make more TV money because the All Blacks might win a little more? No, because they win most of the time already and it was only a questionable appointment as head coach the past four years that interrupted it.
At this point what’s to stop rugby league opening a few more teams and taking over the failing markets in Christchurch, Wellington etc…?
They wouldn’t be unstrategic enough to place weak teams there either, but competitive teams fans would go to watch.
At this point, even the number of All Blacks overseas would drop and with it TV money.
So, overall New Zealand and Australia’s system of only choosing nationally-based players is necessary for the game’s survival at home.
A simple way to improve the All Blacks is to start two more Super franchises in South Auckland and in North Harbour, and pillage the rugby league playing ranks in Auckland, so that the likes of Benji Marshall, RTS and Joey Manu are got before they are taken by the NRL.

'It's time we grew up': The jarring hypocrisy that proves All Blacks are getting key call all wrong

‘“What we need to be able to demonstrate is that we can be really consistent. A lot of the things that you do in rugby, don’t take a whole lot of talent. They take a whole lot of effort, they take a little bit of intelligence and IP in the game, and then the talent tends to be the icing on the cake and we’ve just got to make sure that we bake the cake in the best possible manner.”
That’s fine for the lowly Six Nations, where the other teams are often not that talented and so if you’re just very reliable you can beat them. To make a result certain, you want reliability above all other considerations.
But against repeated talented competition you have to make sure you’ve got a talented team over a reliable team. Again and again coaches have tried reliability over talent for the Wallabies and failed.
This is especially true for the Wallabies. The All Blacks might have the luxury of choosing between two talented 9s, one more reliable than the other, or the Springboks two talented 6s, one more reliable than the other.
But the Wallabies don’t have that much talent and there is often only one player in a position at the level of talent needed, who may or may not be reliable. So if not reliable, you can’t replace him with a less talented but more reliable player as that player just won’t be good enough.
Instead you need to find a way to work with this unreliable player to make him steadier. It’s part of the art of coaching, and has been done time and time again.
Schmidt will find that with the Wallabies playing stocks this is his task, rather than selecting the reliable over the talented.

'Talent can be fickle': Schmidt avoids rushing to conclusions as JOC calls for 'Reds-heavy' Wallabies

Good article, again along with the other fan articles hidden at the bottom of the page by the current Roar format so no one sees it.

‘But it was also a nod to what is becoming increasingly obvious. Australian coaches are best served spending time overseas on extended apprenticeships in multiple environments.’

Whether at home or abroad, the main thing is that they actually do some apprenticeships and prove something before being given control of Super franchises.

Discovering the blueprint for Super Rugby success: How Kiss managed to get away from a one-dimensional style

Teams should be allowed to break the salary cap so long as the players they bring aren’t coming from Super rugby. This would enable some strengthening of the Force.

'Worst rugby I've ever seen': Force coach apologises for horrendous performance in loss to Moana Pasifika

Are the Force spending up to the cap..

'Worst rugby I've ever seen': Force coach apologises for horrendous performance in loss to Moana Pasifika

If he funded it more though it would be more competitive.

It’s presumably because RA refused his 50 million that he won’t put more in now.

'Worst rugby I've ever seen': Force coach apologises for horrendous performance in loss to Moana Pasifika

One element of the thinking here is this maybe:
The only thing that matters is the Wallabies and that means winning the World Cup.
Super rugby, and the domestic game: these are all a lowly second.
So if it takes 2.6 million for the coach to buy an AFL psychologist and other extravagances then isn’t that better than the risk of losing because of not having done everything possible?

'Everything was approved': Eddie hits back at $2.6m RWC budget blow-out, says Wallabies can build team around young gun

But imagine, if someone put 2.6 million in your account and said ‘go spend’. Would you be able to resist?

'Everything was approved': Eddie hits back at $2.6m RWC budget blow-out, says Wallabies can build team around young gun

What was the 2.6 million actually spent on?

'Everything was approved': Eddie hits back at $2.6m RWC budget blow-out, says Wallabies can build team around young gun

Work is always more distracting that the issue of league converts unfortunately.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

‘Well one can be credible and still work. Not mutually exclusive.’ I wish that were true.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

Yes, it’s so obvious that the coach is the issue for the Force. What if Les Kiss had been in charge.

'It hurts': Force's season goes from bad to worse as Lealiifano, Kepu lead Moana Pasifika to upset win

Rebels need a top coach.

If you’d swapped the coaches what would have been the result?

McReight masterclass, Uru statement: Reds smash Rebels in Aussie Super Rugby derby

Perhaps time for Twiggy to get a new coach.
What if Les Kiss had coached the Force?

'It hurts': Force's season goes from bad to worse as Lealiifano, Kepu lead Moana Pasifika to upset win

I’ll take lack of credibility over needing to get back to work any day of the week.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

‘Kiss is showing us just how good he is.
Maybe the next inline for Wallaby coach’

Slow down. A coach should have to do more than a couple of good games to become Wallabies coach.

McReight masterclass, Uru statement: Reds smash Rebels in Aussie Super Rugby derby

Most of the money is third-party deals apparently, and just for this particular players.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

They could have spent the money on someone who’d proven more in league, but I suppose were more attracted by his rugby background.

The biggest mistake in rugby league convert spending from RA or the ARU was actually Sailor and Rogers, not because they got them, but because they waited until their late 20s to get them. Four years earlier and they would have had most of their careers.

To avoid the mistake this time they’ve gone for someone at pretty much the ideal age. Ideally he would have done as much as Folau or Inglis/Hayne by that stage but still.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

That’s amusing. Israel Folau is the fourth top try scorer but player 30-50 fewer tests than the players above him in the list, which means at a scoring rate he’s the equal top of all time, and Tuqiri’s similar.

So if equal top try scoring rate isn’t top talent, then I’m not sure what is.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

No, because there’s a difference between well and exceptionally well.

South Africa have the crowd base to produce good crowds double or more the number of stadia they use and the massive playing numbers to develop far more talent. They are heavily constricted by the five team format and with a larger model would have been vastly more powerful.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

I wasn’t replying in direct grammatical relation to your question but creating a new grammatical structure. So they succeed refers to rugby league converts as a group. The individual case is a proof representing the efforts of a larger group.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

Then who will play for the Wallabies in the place of the lost two? There’s no way SS players would be ready or good enough.

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

None of those would have got in: closest would be Beale, Genia, Cooper.

Toomua is as good as Inglis?

Kuridrani as Hayne?

RA reeling and facing a mass exodus of biggest stars - there are three key reasons why they're in peril

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