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The governing body of international cricket is the International Cricket Council (ICC) but it can be argued that ICC instead stands for the Indian…
Sports teams across the world all face the same challenge - uniforms clashing with the opposition. It has become the obligation of the away…
AFL is arguably the biggest sport in Australia, with teams in most states around the country and a code that has been a core…
Supporting a team, no matter the sport, is a stress filled, passionate love affair between a person and a dream. Why do we follow…
I’m led to believe Collingwood altered there kit along the way. But I may be wrong
AFL law is black and white but that doesn't mean Collingwood are above it
They were both actually founded in 1892. So not sure that argument applies.
AFL law is black and white but that doesn't mean Collingwood are above it
Appreciate the useful feedback. Perhaps Geelong, north Melbourne, port (heritage) guernseys might be a slight clash….but wider stripes will definately fix it. Haha
AFL law is black and white but that doesn't mean Collingwood are above it
Always happy to have a respectful debate. Interesting topic.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
I’m happy to accept it wasn’t your quote. In regards to my quote. I stand by it, and with no way for either of us to actually prove it I’m not sure what you’re expecting. In my opinion it’s a core component. Clearly you don’t. Wasn’t actually a big part of the article. I just expressed my opinions. I respect your opinion, but I also respectfully disagree.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Personally I lost all interest in having a conversation about this after the ping pong quote. Quite simply you seem to have decided that afl could only be a core component if it was the number one sport in Brisbane and Sydney. Whilst it may not be, it’s presence in those areas as well as the rest of australia affects the way we live. Even if it’s through the affect it has on Rugby and how it is run and hence it has an affect on the culture even in a none direct way.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
And just for the record, I think AFL, Rugby and cricket are the major core components of Australian sporting culture.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
I’m not particularly sure what your aim is here. I’m not bad mouthing any sport, not saying it’s better or more important in areas of Australia. Quite simply I’m saying it’s a core component to the whole of australia. Now you can try and focus on Brisbane and Sydney because those areas clearly are Australia to you but if you look at a map Australia is a lot bigger. To put it simply, for you to disregard the importance of Afl in the entirity of Australia because 2 states don’t have as high an interest in it is utterly ridiculous. By those criteria tennis and cricket are the most important sports because they are played nationally. Clearly that’s not the case. In summary I’m not trying to divide the country up, instead look at it as a whole.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Not sure I ever said afl had been there for a century. Tasmania, northern territory don’t have afl teams, does that mean it’s not a part of their culture? Afl is part of Sydney and Brisbanes culture, even if it’s just rugby fans disliking the game.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
And might I just add, there’s much more to Australia than Sydney and Brisbane. Your argument would be like me saying rubgy league or union isn’t a big component of Australian culture because people in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne don’t really know much about it.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
It may not be a core component to you but the fact remains it’s the biggest sport in Australia. Not because I think so, just look at the tv deal.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
I’d have to disagree but that’s not overly important. In essence my point is that changing the rules of any sport on a consistent basis in an attempt to make the game more attractive, especially to new viewers actually does the opposite to existing fans. People like myself are fans of football for a reason and that certainly isn’t where the game is heading at the moment.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Australia as a whole I’d happily say it’s a core component. Maybe lesser so in areas, but lets be realistic it’s the biggest sport in Australia.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
I’m by no means saying football is perfect, but for the biggest global sport to remain relatively the same should be a lesson to all other sports. Less is more. Attracting and maintaining new fans, to me is achieved by simplicity and consistency in rules.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Maybe so. Still remains popular with unchanged rules.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
I think the greatest example of what I’m saying actually comes from soccer. A sport that is enormously popular. But very few rule changes. Lets not get into if rules need to be changed. The fact remains, soccer remains a successful sport without changing it’s rules to appeal to markets. They basically say “here’s our sport, here’s why it’s great”.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
That’s a fair point, but the flip side is that fans like myself that have watched the game for many many years will stop watching. I love AFL but if it becomes unrecognizable, which constant rule changes could cause I won’t be following the game anymore. So I understand your argument but it’s not true in my case and I’m sure many others.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
I think the real point there is no it’s not required. I can list rules that I don’t like, or that I don’t see an actual benefit from, trust me there is a lot of both. I’m just of the opinion that unless there is a dire need for a rule change, aka player safety then changing the a rule for appearance is neither here nor there because as I’ve said it’s just changing a rule to make some people happy. If I said I hate players handballing does that mean we should ban handballs? There has to be a line. Football is football for a reason.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Just quickly on your answer: you said to remove nitpicky frees. I’d argue they haven’t been removed, just replaced. Frees for being 90cms apart instead of a metre. Like I said it’s not necessarily I bad rule, but is it really required? Do we need to change every aspect of the game that someone has a problem with? Just to add, at the moment I don’t believe the game has “broken down” as you said, but of the belief that knee jerk reaction rule changes are leading the game down a dangerous path. Every sport has aspects that aren’t attractive or aren’t necessarily enjoyable to watch. That’s sport, that what makes it unique, that’s what makes it interesting.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
One interesting example, that may not have a great impact on the game but I believe is rule changing just for the sake of it is 1m between ruckmen at stoppages. Doesn’t prevent injuries, doesn’t remove any great problem with the game. Instead is designed to look more attractive.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Like I said, rule changes to prevent injury is fair enough (although we have to realize it’s a contact sport) but rule changes to make the game “more attractive” for viewers is quite simply stupid. Football is football, stop trying to make it something else.
Less is more, let's just enjoy AFL in its current form
Personally geography has very little influence on whether you’re a fan or not. It’s all about your level of involvement, however you achieve that. For example, I support Liverpool, obviously I can’t go to games. However I watch as many games as possible, follow news about them and participate in club forums. To me, I am a supporter.
Can supporters really call themselves true fans?
That’s very true. I more so go on there in the hope some intelligent people will put a realistic response. Unfortunately it’s not just limited to Facebook after a loss though.
Can supporters really call themselves true fans?
English soccer was just an example. Could use basketball, any soccer league, rugby league, union. Peoples disliking of soccer doesn’t change the actual issue, alternate strips should be common practice for all teams.
AFL law is black and white but that doesn't mean Collingwood are above it