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I must say, all comments (except from Dave) has been good so far. We really should have seen this coming. We have been luckly so far. It is fitting for a really good team like Germany to finally lay it bare for us. It will finally force FFA’s hand to rebuild the team after this worldcup and put in the extra effort to bring in new players and build them up. It will force FFA to find the right coach after this. So there is a lot of positive. Punter is absolutely right, there is always highs and lows in any sports. If it is all highs, we would have won the world cup by now. If you think you feel bad, imagine what the players are feeling at the moment.
It is do or die next game. This is what we have been asking for. We now have it.
We must continue to back the Socceroos
How is A-league re-establishing a football league that was there before in NSL an attack on AFL?
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
As i said in the article the real debate is how do we can allocate resource so that we can compete at the world stage while still still supporting the indi code. I don’t want soccer to be the only league because it is important to keep our australian identity. But at the same time I want a strong soccer l because it is the only football code that can give me a real international fix. The problem is we can’t have this debate without being bias.
Come on, a 4 weeks event won’t doom the other codes. Don’t be a alarminist. Surely, you have some believe in your own codes. Surely you have faith in your code.
How is it a national interest to kill the chance to stage this event? What do we have to lose? Unless of course you think your code will die because we have this 4 weeks event. Have some faith.
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
Its all relative isn’t it. Compare to other codes, AFL is the most aggressive one. I am merely responding to assertion by republican that FFA is trying to kill the other codes. I really don’t know where he/she got that from.
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
The real debate is how we should allocate the resource so that we can be competitive at the world stage but also keep the Indi game going. I don’t want Aust to have only one football code just because it is a world game. But at the same time, I don’t want to see soccer suffer because the other football codes just won’t give me the world competition fix only soccer can provide. Unfortunately, there is no good answer. At least not one where people can debate without being bias.
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
Come on, if you read the comments and blogs, we all get the impression that all codes are trying snuff each other out. So you can’t pretend it is only one sided. At the end of the day, we should look at the actions of the code governing body. Our words means nothing. So tell me what have FFA and ARU done to try and kill the other codes. If anything AFL is the most agressive one. (ie being an obstructionist and buying players from other code).
As I said in my second comment up the page, we should let the public decide what sports they want to play. The real issue is how to allocate resource FAIRLY so that we can compete at the world stage (Olympics, the various world cups) but still keep the local indi game going. That is the real debate. Funny how you pick the Olympics as an example. I would say the Olympics probably have an unfair share of the resource given our govt >100m funding.
Your last point. I don’t think the soccer community is intimidated by AFL. I think they just want a fair go. The game has been topedoe by other codes for a long time. In terms of fear, i think it is more the AFL that is afaird of losing their number one status.
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
How did you come to this conclusion?
“The more I read the more I think this is all about Soccer in this country trying to obsessively meet unrealistic expectations for the game here and at the demise of all others? It seems they would have ALL competing codes rendered irrelevant for the common good of the global game, rationaising the Australian sporting landscape to this end.”
Surely you are talking about AFL with their attempt to topedoe the world cup bid and the attempt to steal the best players from RL?
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
This is a tough one. I think this is why this article is so good. A couple of points worth addressing.
1) Sport is about competition. So naturally we want to compete at the highest level and that means at the world stage. It is hard to take any competition seriously that ends at the borders of Aust. That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it, but when it really matters, you want to see a sport that goes all the way to the world stage. It is a bit like watching Aust made movies. Some of them are good but you can’t compete with the big blockbuster.
2) Having a global competition doesn’t mean the local league is irrelevant. The international stage doesn’t happen weekly. So I still need the local league to get your fix. And only a local league can provide a closer connection as it is played at my hometown. I also want my local team to be a feeder to supply players to the next stage. Only a local league can do this.
Having said all this, I don’t really want to eliminate all indigenous competition (AFL). So it is important we balance this so that we compete strongly on international sport but still also maintain our local league.
So i think the discussion and debate should be how we can allocate resource to compete effectively at the world stage but still keep our indigneous competition. I think AFL is probably alone in this category. Probably the only way to do this is to
let the players decide. We do live in a free country afterall. We don’t really want to be like China where kids at 6 are located to certain sports to achieve maximum number of olympic medals.
But how do with do this fairly? Probably if everyone is on a level playing field but that doesn’t happen in the real world. So at the end of the day each group will try to sell their sport. Which is probably what we are seeing now. The only problem is where do we draw the line? For example, AFL trying to toepedo the world cup bid. Is that fair game or is it just against national interest. Personally, I think it is wrong. As i said, we should let the players decide. The world cup is part and parcel of soccer. So we should we try to host it in the national interest. The players can then decide. It is like asking the consumer to decide what products they want to buy. But to let them decide, we have to able to present the products for them to sample.
Australian sports are small fish in big ponds
Yeah, I am not surprise. AFL has money to burn. They will throw money at anything to grow their game.
Football the big winner in the 2009 ERASS