Is Hackett better than Salnikov?

By The Crowd / Roar Guru

In less than 24 hours we will know if Grant Hackett has won his 3rd successive 1500m freestyle gold medal, and title of the ‘greatest 1500m swimmer in history’.

If or when Hackett achieves this, I wonder if he’ll spare a thought for Salnikov. Before Grant Hackett, or even Kieren Perkins, there was Vladimir Salnikov.

If it hadn’t been for the politics of the 1980s, Salnikov would’ve / should’ve won 3 successive 1500m freestyle gold medals. In which case, Hackett would be attempting to emulate Salnikov, rather than attempting to achieve what hasn’t been done before.

In 1980, Salnikov won 3 gold medals – 1500m freestyle, 400m freestyle and 4x200m freestyle relay. This was the games boycotted by Americans, Canadians, West Germans and a number of key individual athletes from other countries like Australia and Great Britain.

Had the Americans been competing, Salnikov wouldn’t have won the relay, while the 400m might have been 50/50. Just before the Moscow Olympics, Canadian Peter Schmidt broke the 400m freestyle record, but whether he would have replicated that at the games is something we can never know for sure.

In 1984, the Soviet Union (Russia) and other Eastern European countries boycotted the Los Angeles Olympics in a ‘tit for tat’ reprisal. In a swimming meet held almost simultaneously with the Olympics, Salnikov won the 1500m freestyle in a faster time than that of the Olympics gold medal winner , American Mike O’Brien.

By the time of the 1988 Seoul Olympics, Salnikov was considered “washed up” and unwanted by the Russian Olympic selection committee. Only the intervention of the Russian President allowed a place for Salnikov to be found on the swimming team.

The similarities between Salnikov in 1987-88 and Hackett in 2007-08 are scary. Like Hackett in 2008, Salnikov was 28 going into the 1988 Olympics; like Hackett in 2007, Salnikov bombed out at the previous year’s World cahmpionship in 1987; like Hackett at present, Salnikov was held together by his wife, who went so far as to be his coach and trainer.

For the final in 1988, Salnikov qualified 2nd fastest, while Hackett has qualified fastest. In the 1988 final, Salnikov surged ahead in the middle stages to then hold off the fast finishing German Stefan Pfeiffer. What will Hackett do?

But here’s something to stir the emotions, and I quote directly from David Wallechinsky’s magnificent tome: ‘The Complete Book Of The Olympics’.

“At 11.30pm that night, after all the photos and interviews and ceremonies and congratulations were over, Vladimir Salnikov walked into the cafeteria at the athletes’ village, hoping to grab a late snack. There were about 250 or 300 athletes and coaches in the room, representing a wide variety of nations and sports. As word spread that Salnikov had entered , the athletes and coaches spontaneously stopped eating, rose and gave him a standing ovation.”

How good was that!

If or when Hackett wins his 3rd successive 1500m freestyle final, will he think to acknowledge Salnikov? And will the swimmers, athletes and coaches from other nations give him a standing ovation?

The Crowd Says:

2008-08-17T10:22:41+00:00

Harry

Guest


I saw Hackett interviewed on Seven - what a gracious man and a champion. An intersting interview in spite of the usual inanities from the 7 commentators. Re tactics, Hackett said he was very focused on the threats from the two lanes next to him - the Canadian and the Russian, and only realised about Melloulli making a break with 250 metres to go - and he said by that stage there wasn't much he could do to drag him in. Hackett said it took every once of his energy and all his tactical skills that he had to burn off the Candaian and the Russian, and looking at him afterwards that seemed dead right. So no there's not much he could have done better tactically. Totally different races, but same with Libby and Eamon in their respective 100's narrow silvers. Re your other point. I agree our own record in collectively burying the head in the sand on performance enhancing drugs (Sam Riley and Ben Tune two bad examples I can think of in recent international competition) isn't great. That said, facts - which is all I wrote - are facts.

2008-08-17T08:32:17+00:00

sheek

Guest


Harry, The thread was appropriate BEFORE the race, because otherwise Salnikov's place would have been lost among all the jingoism. So who's better? I would have to compare the number of times they each broke the world record, their longevity, & various other achievements to decide on who was better. Also, their respective influence on the sport. Mellouli improved by 17 seconds, & was previously suspended for doping. Of course, Aussie athletescan improve dramatically (Stephanie Rice) never take drugs. Why are we so often suspicious of the rest of the world? And so sanctimonious about our own. If Mellouli passes his drug test after the race, that's the end of it. Give him credit wher it's due. He took off at the 3/4 mark, established a lead & Hackett couldn't catch him. Perhaps tactically, Hackett waited too long. Perhaps Hackett knew he didn't have enough gas in the tank. Clever race by Mellouli. Fortune favours the brave. And he was brave to make the break.

2008-08-17T06:07:24+00:00

Harry

Guest


Two facts about the winner for Roar readers interest: 1) His winning swim was 17 seconds faster compated to his previous personal best in the 1500 before the Games 2) Mellouli returned a positive doping test and was suspended for 18 months, retroactive to Nov. 30, 2006. The 18 month ban differed from FINA's normal 24 month ban and allowed him to compete in Beijing.

2008-08-17T02:33:26+00:00

Harry

Guest


Magnificent effort Grant, very disappointing to lose your spot in history to a guy whose served a suspension for doping.

2008-08-17T01:28:47+00:00

Harry

Guest


FFS Sheek !!! Wait till after the race before you start a thread like this!

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