Where do the FIFA Confederations sit against each other?

By Janex / Roar Rookie

Germany’s Lukas Podolski, left, and Australia’s Ljubo Milicevic, right, challenge for the ball during the Confederations Cup match between Germany and Australia at the FIFA World Cup stadium in Frankfurt, western Germany, Wednesday, June 15, 2005. AP Photo/Michael Probst

The politicking and backroom power-play of FIFA and its Confederations within a World Cup year is as active as any other time previous.

With two FIFA World Cups to be awarded simultaneously, there is debate over the expected return of the World Cup to the UEFA Confederation and the cancellation of the rotation system for the future World Cups, which would have seen each FIFA Confederation share it.

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Some commentators are questioning whether a strong showing by the African teams at 2010 FIFA World Cup is cause for CAF (Confederation of African Football) to obtain one of the AFC (Asian Football Confederation) World Cup spots.

Currently CAF has five places for each World Cup whilst AFC has 4.5 places, with the 0.5 place to be contested with OFC (Oceania Football Confederation) World Cup Qualifying winner.

The only reason this type of rhetoric would be debated, and others similar, would be that the AFC may be seen as the weakest FIFA Confederation other than the OFC.

Where do the FIFA Confederations really sit against each other?

Possibly CAF should question whether 0.5 place be determined with CONMEBOL (South American Football Confederation) for future World Cups.

Another debate closer to home is whether Australia, by becoming a member of the AFC, has in fact just gained an easier passage and taken a place away from a genuine Asian country to the World Cup.

It could be argued that the AFC needed Australia as much as Australia needed the AFC.

Certainly Australia has only added more strength to the Top 10 teams within the AFC.

However, one of the most important elements that Australia brings to the AFC is its European football experience. The other top AFC teams have struggled to play in Europe and against European teams.

The same cannot be said about the Socceroos.

FIFA’s July rankings have placed Australia currently 16th, and certainly questions about the rankings validity have been raised. However, the rankings through a formula take into account several factors, with one important factor being the Confederations strength.

This affects each teams ranking from each FIFA Confederation. The stronger the Confederation, the more points a country receives. And this is also the case when two teams from the same Confederation play off against each other.

The strength of each FIFA Confederation is determined by the amount of ‘wins’ from the previous three FIFA World Cups. So at South Africa 2010, your second team should be any of the AFC teams competing, as each win is a win for the AFC.

Some interesting facts from the last three World Cups and the last four years of FIFA rankings by Confederation:

UEFA are clearly on top, the AFC is fighting it out with CONCACAF (North and Central America Football Confederation), and surprisingly CAF are making some big inroads into CONMEBOL.

All the countries have been separated into their respective FIFA Confederation based on the month of July from 2006 to 2009.

Each FIFA Confederation was tracked by two indicators: firstly, the total average ranking of each Confederation, and secondly, the top ten average ranking for each Confederation.

On the total average ranking for each Confederation, the placing was first CONMEBOL with an average rank of 36th, second UEFA with an average rank of 61st, third CAF on average rank of 105th, forth place with average ranking of 130th is AFC, fifth place at 131st is CONCACAF, and the OFC at 168th.

In this instance, CONMEBOL has a clear advantage as the Confederation is made up of only 10 countries, whereas UEFA has 53 counties.

However, when you look for just the cream, the top ten countries of each FIFA Confederation are separated and the average ranking is determined over the ten countries, there is an interesting shift in placing amongst two of the Confederations.

The UEFA is clearly in first position, as its top ten countries over the past four years have a collective average ranking of 7th, second is the CAF with a ranking of 34th, third is the CONMEBOL with an average ranking of 36th, fourth is the CONCACAF sitting with a ranking of 59th, the AFC placed fifth with an average ranking from the past 4 years of 61st and the OFC at 165th for its average top ten countries.

• UEFA have held their average ranking of 7th over the last two years, 8th was their lowest ranking;
• CONMEBOL’s highest ranking was 33rd in 2006 and it’s lowest ranking at 38th in 2008;
• CAF highest ranking was 28th in 2006 and lowest at 39th July 2009;
• CONCACAF highest ranking was 52nd in 2006 and lowest at 68th in 2008;
• AFC highest ranking was 56th in 2008 and lowest rank of 66th in 2006;

When looking at the last three FIFA World Cups by Confederation, the CAF countries could be seen as falling short of their expectations and certainly the European teams don’t perform as well away then when on their home soil.

UEFA have clearly won the majority of games – a total of 95 wins out of 152 in total over the last three World Cups including 3rd and 4th play off games, and has achieved two World Champions in France and Italy.

CONMEBOL are second with 30 of the 152 wins and one World Champion, Brazil.

The next three Confederations are separated by two wins, CAF (10), AFC (8) and CONCACAF (8) wins over the last three World Cups.

The OFC has a solitary win, that of Australia from 2006.

1998 World Cup – France
• CONMEBOL with 10 wins, four countries progressing into 2nd Round, and Runners Up Brazil ranked 1st in the world;
• CONCACAF with 2 wins, and Mexico ranked 4th eliminated in 2nd Round;
• UEFA with 33 wins, ten countries progressing into 2nd Round and World Champion France ranked 18th in the world;
• AFC with 1 win, no country progressing out of the group stage;
• CAF with 3 wins, and Nigeria ranked 74th eliminated in 2nd Round;
2002 World Cup – Japan/Korea
• CONCACAF with 6 wins, 2 countries into 2nd Round, USA ranked 13th eliminated in Quarter Finals;
• UEFA with 25 wins, 9 countries into 2nd Round, and Runners Up Turkey ranked 22nd in the world;
• CONMEBOL with 10 wins, 2 countries into 2nd Round, and World Champions Brazil ranked 1st in the world;
• CAF with 3 wins, and Senegal ranked 42nd eliminated in Quarter Finals;
• AFC with 6 wins, 2 countries into 2nd Round, South Korea ranked 40th eliminated in Semi Finals;
• Netherlands didn’t qualify and were ranked 9th in the world going into the 2002 World Cup;
• China ranked 50th were the lowest ranked country competing at 2002 World Cup;

2006 World Cup – Germany
• UEFA with 37 wins, 10 countries into 2nd Round, and World Champions Italy ranked 13th in the world;
• CONMEBOL with 10 wins, 3 countries into 2nd Round, Brazil 1st and Argentina 9th eliminated in Quarter Finals;
• CONCACAF with zero wins, no country progressing out of the group stage;
• AFC with 1 win, no country progressing out of the group stage;
• OFC with 1 win, and Australia ranked 42nd eliminated in 2nd Round;
• CAF with 4 wins, and Ghana ranked 48th eliminated in 2nd Round;
• Germany were ranked 19th going into their World Cup and eliminated in the Semi Finals by Italy;
• Spain & USA both ranked 5th and Mexico ranked 4th at the time of the World Cup, only Spain progressed out of group stage;

So in South Africa, one would expect CAF competing countries to make the most of the ‘home ground’ advantage and better their previous best at a World Cup of four wins at Germany, and have one country advance to the Quarters or possibly Semi Finals.

Who from the AFC or CONCACAF is going to perform on the distant rainbow coloured lands? Neither Confederation had a country progress into the 2nd Round at the last World Cup.

The significance is that after the 2010 World Cup, the 1998 World Cup results and Confederation ‘wins’ are disregarded.

The Crowd Says:

2009-10-01T22:58:53+00:00

Vincent

Guest


I think people don't take CONCACAF seriously enough. The final qualifying group (the hex) much more difficult than any Asian qualifying stage and harder than many of the European qualifying goups. The current hex consists of USA, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, El Salvador and T&T. The first four could beat probably beat any AFC team and several Euro teams. CONCACAF definitely deserves the 3.5 spots.

2009-07-07T13:36:17+00:00

NUFCMVFC

Guest


Nice discussion article I would say that AFC will be protected because as some say, it is really 2 Confederations (West and East) rolled into one as it is. It is in Footballs interest to maintain a strong interest in football, even if teams like Saudi Arabia get thrashed at the WC 8-0 because there is so much economic power within Aisa, in the West you have the Oil States of the Middle East, and in the East you have rising China as well as strong Economic powers such as Japan and South Korea aren't anything to sniff at economically. The issue here of course is that AFC has a bit of a battle to channel that power into its own leagues, like domestic national leagues + own Cofederation (Asian) Cup, whereas as can be seen with EPL game 39, there are some elements within Europe that are trying to tap into that for Business reasons. So even though CAF are coming up strongly in playing terms and the cream in particular are probably stronger than the cream of Asia, AFC can pretty much consider itself fairly safe seeing as their economic power/potential can't match that of the AF - look at it from this perspective, there are a number of AFC teams capable of practically hosting the World Cup whereas the same can't quite be said of CAF countries, South Africa is the most practical with some Rugby stadiums in place already and that has faced a lot of problems. There is a good reason why CWC is being held within Asia With regards to CAF strengthening football wise, it would be CONCACAF who should be worried, as the article says Mexico are weakening, the USA team which is the strongest has a lot of potential power and MLS is improving thanks to boutique stadiums and developing its own niche, but the U.S economic power isn't really channelled into football at all. Good point, AFC and Australia need eachother as much as the other, as an Australian football fan the move into AFC has been undescribably fantastic, and naturally they will do well by having something of a bridge between Asia and Europe, having a team ranked 16 and in the mix will be a stabiliser of prestige, especially if we can get to knockout round again or at least one of the other Asian teams but personally I think the 2nd tier of Asia is catching up to the 1st tier with it being a mix of second tier catching up and Saudi Arabia beginning to feel the impact of sacking their coach all the time and the instability and lack of continuity it brings. But Australia generally, once it puts its focus into football seriously, will become somewhat competitive and powerful as we have the potential to match it with European nations, and AFC/Asia will need that, as well as our practical sporting knowledge that will come in handy in developing the quality of competitions within the AFC region and if AFC can focus much more opf its raw power into its own competitions and have them as half proper comps, it can become quite strong, to the point where it can even feasibly challenge the Copa Libertadores in terms of professional organisation and playing out of modern Stadiums if not in terms of fan passion and skill level which will means it will have something approaching respectability The mix of places for World Cups is about right, maybe give CONCACAFS half place to CAF or something

2009-07-07T03:23:08+00:00

sheek

Guest


Rankings might provide future historians with a useful reference point, but as a practical exercise, they're pretty useless. Case in point was Serena Williams & the tennis female rankings. Serena rightly places winning majors above all other tournaments. In team sports, performances in the big ones - FIFA WC; Euro Cup; Asian Cup; Confederations Cup; etc, these are the ones that count.

2009-07-07T01:40:39+00:00

Brian

Guest


Luckily spots at World Cups are given on financial and not just footballing considerations. The AFC/OFC get 5 because revenue wise the region is only behind UEFA. Likewise CONCANCAF gets 3.5 whilst the much stronger CONEMBOL gets 4.5 even all the 10 teams in CONEMBOL would usually beat any team in CONCACAF other than Mexico & US. However its important to note that 40 years ago the same applied to most UEFA countries and the top team in CAF. I think FIFA deserve credit for their foresight in forever ensuring the World Cup is a global event. Long before Bledisloe games in Hong Kong and AFL teams in Sydney teams like Zambia, North Korea, Cuba & Dutch East Indies were allowed to go to the World Cup. They were usually thrashed but it added to the competition and allowed football to grow as it has.

2009-07-07T00:26:48+00:00

Footy Aficionado

Roar Rookie


I think these stats show the advantage of home ground advantage more than anything. The European teams always do well in Europe but the cup is much more open when the event is hosted outside of Europe. Those stats should look different after world cups in Africa and one in South America. European teams still did well in 2002 but the whole event felt much more open. Luckily the spots don’t seem to be just determined on performance though or else Asia would have 0.5 spots because barring the 2002 world cup the teams have done nothing much at all. Australia made it out of the group stage but the only victory of the campaign was against AFC’s Japan. Yet not giving Asia 4.5 would be a big hinderance to development as the area is booming. Japan and Korea play great football and there are massive commercial markets there. I think it does show the AFC now needs Australia to maintain there number of spots. Although some of the Asian teams seem to be disappointed we weren’t just adding a free spot for them and we actually qualified I think it would be very hard for Asia to justify keeping a full spot if Australia were removed …we just have to keep on qualifying for the next couple of campaigns lest they take the opportunity to boot us. After that we should be fairly well integrated into the AFC with our coaches and players spread all over the place and our A league teams (with a couple of Asian players in each) contributing to the allure of the Asian Champions League. I think North America deserves 3 spots still. T&T got there by winning a playoff against AFC’s Bahrain so fair play to them. Canada is like Australia and New Zealand still developing. Yes in the short term the results might not be there but realistically the only confederation that is likely to receive more spots than there worth because of political muscle is Asia and that’s ours home so power to us J

2009-07-06T23:52:23+00:00

Derryn

Roar Rookie


If spots were allocated on ability then I think the WC would only contain teams from CONMEBOL, UEFA and maybe a couple from Africa. It is a WORLD Cup though so it is fair that all continents get represented. Having a good spread of teams from all continents enables different styles of teams to go up against each other. Personally I think CONCACAF and Asia/Ocenia may provide too many really weak sides and could lose places and give more to Africa or CONMEBOL. The African sides are often ill disciplined but very skillful. I expect teams from the other continents may be a little scared when drawn against an African side. Unfortunately it is situation where it is going to be impossible to keep everyone happy. Good article.

2009-07-06T22:18:07+00:00

andrewMc

Guest


CONCACAF has turned into an absolute joke since Mexico has started to play their worst football ever. When Mexico were at their peak, it was still hard for CONCACAF to justify having 3.5 WC places when only two nations were really up to the quality of playing in a world cup. Now there is only one country worthy of playing in the world cup. One spot should be transferred from CONCACAF to CAF. 2.5 is more than enough for CONCACAF. The US and Mexico can have their spot assured and the rest can fight it out for the playoff spot. The world cup can't afford for the likes of Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon or Egypt to miss out on the world cup at the expense of Trinidad and Tobago or Jamaica

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