Australia's army sent homeward, to think again

By CraigB / Roar Guru

Sitting watching the dying embers of what proved to be Australia’s latest and most embarrassing loss in recent times, I found myself mentally torn on who to support for the first time that I can remember.

As I watched the Australian forwards drive towards the line, desperately seeking the score that would put them in striking distance, I felt nothing.

In fact I would say I wanted them to lose the ball. It seemed the most fitting way for the game to end.

With Scotland having put up a modern Hadrian’s wall for the last 79 minutes it seemed wrong that a late try would allow the Wallabies to squeak home and deny the Scots what they had earned.

The Wallabies did score however and then it came down to Giteau and for a second I wanted him to get it, get the kick and walk away with victory.

Then as he was lining it up and in the background I could see the Scots, crouched, angry, ready, like they were about to run the Olympic 100 metre final.

They were prepared to do anything for victory on this day and despite the fact they had no chance of actually getting to the kick in time they were were not going to sit idly by.

I thought to myself ‘miss you little pretty boy’. When he did whilst not happy exactly, I did feel the joy for the players and even more so the crowd who have been coming to Murrayfield with high hopes for years only to see them dashed time and again.

You see as much I love and support the Wallabies, this current collective are no such thing.

Sure some of the individuals within the side are worthy of the moniker, but too many are not and this is the ultimate team game.

This is not down to talent, sure Wallaby teams have been worse than this one. It is the attitude that it is all too hard that seems to come to the fore when anyone asks them the hard questions.

Questions like ‘Can you defend your line when victory depends on it?’ or ‘Can you get the ball past us?’ I don’t seem to see players ‘leaving it all on the field’ as is the modern saying.

The dissections of this game will no doubt take place all week on forums like this and pubs and lounge rooms. Hell it might even take place on tour in Wallaby camp.

Hopefully it will show the massive holes in the game style, but more importantly the culture in Australian elite rugby. As you do this though, please don’t focus entirely on the Australian woes that come from having all the ball and all the territory and still coming second.

Spare a thought and raise a wee dram for the Scottish players and Scottish rugby in general. They have shown us why we can love this game.

Even in the modern era with hit and run tours, no rucking and ice baths with players and not beer in them, they have shown that heart and pride can be enough.

The ability to refuse to accept what other people see as inevitable can get you to great places. That one off upsets can start a momentum that is nigh on impossible to stop.

For this Wallaby fan it also show that turn arounds can come quickly and that is why, regardless of this result I will be up in wee hours next week, hoping for our own Murrayfield

The Crowd Says:

2009-11-24T05:22:33+00:00

mick h

Guest


“the Wallabies have now lost 7 games and counting to the mighty All Blacks” So yes, you did said the word "mighty". By the way, we have lost a lot more than 7 games to the mighty All Blacks thank you very much. We take great pride in such facts!!! As I suggested the Wallaby loss to Scotland has nothing to do with New Zealand or the All Blacks. Do you think that the All Blacks will never lose to Scotland or Ireland or even Italy for that matter? If you do then your arrogance is astounding and you ideas are nothing short or dilusional. I'd keep my mental energy on preparing for another loss to France this weekend if I were you.

2009-11-24T01:26:31+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


MarkH, So the current IRB Player of the Year Shane Williams can't cut it eh??

2009-11-24T01:23:32+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


Mick, Did I say anywhere they are mighty?? You're right - this is by no means the greatest AB's side - but they are FAR AND AWAY superior the the Wobblies! I mearly don't want the good AB's named sully by being mention in the same breath as this Wobblies side! No AB's side - regardless of how bad - has ever lost to the Scots. We take great pride in such facts - perhaps the Wobblies need a bit of that pride!

2009-11-23T14:47:21+00:00

Knives Out

Guest


Diplomatic Immunity, the Scottish scrum struggled, Ross Ford is prone to the yips, the backs seemed to lack basic passing and catching abilities and the kicking was not that accurate. I honestly think this is a one-off that was avoidable. There's only so many times a good defence and nothing else will win games.

2009-11-23T14:11:03+00:00

steve

Guest


The springboks scored some magic tries against italy(where the all blacks only scored two) and wales scored some pretty decent tries against arg......its about attitude and ability, something the all blacks lack and the wallbies just need to muscle up for once(like they did in brisbane)

2009-11-23T10:11:41+00:00

mick h

Guest


Campbell, do you really think the current All Blacks side is mighty? Yes they have beaten the Wallabies 7 on the trot, (unnecessary reminder but thanks anyway), but by your own brilliant observation we are "PATHETIC" anyway. Why do Kiwis have to constantly bring up their own dominance over us in Rugby when we are beaten by another team. It gets boring and makes you seem churlish. And before you hastily reply with something like "well, he brought up the All Blacks first," all Pablo was saying was that it seems the All Blacks have trouble scoring like past great All Black sides. I don't think you will beat France this weekend.

2009-11-23T10:02:49+00:00

JimC

Guest


Harry - nailed it - You have no depth, the players that are there don't play enough as you have no national comp, and thus most wallabies know they can cruise along raking in vast amounts of cash and travelling about in business class on the back of the deeds of players past. But then when Giteau was revealed as the highest paid Australian player in any domestic code (ie not an EPL footy player or Bogut) a lot of rugby union fans said how marvellous it was and how it showed union was making great strides. In the Lehman Brothers sense I guess. It said in the SMH today that the wage bill is A$27 million per year. That's seven NRL squads. Does that make sense? Is there that much talent? If the mercenaries among ARU contracted players flee to the UK if their wages are brought into line with reality, does it matter? They won't all leave. Horan and Little didn't and none of the current lot are fit to lace their boots except maybe Barnes. Questions that need to be answered I think.

AUTHOR

2009-11-23T09:57:32+00:00

CraigB

Roar Guru


Jameswm - I don't think I ever mentioned a feeling of entitlement, but more a case of seemingly not being prepared to give all to the cause. It maybe something more along the lines of self preservation. That said those players from the 22 I feel are playing that way are as follows: Chisolm, Horwill, Cooper, Mitchell Then there are those who give there all but just aren't good enough: Cross, Burgess, Brown, Mumm Lastly there are guys who suffer from trying to do too much and end up making things worse Giteau

2009-11-23T09:49:35+00:00

MarkH

Guest


We need bigger centres..I'll toss one name in the ring. Stephen Hoiles. Can run can, can tackle. He wont make the side as a fwd but has a real chance as an inside. Small backs in Rugby cant cut it. Gits is a great player but he needs big centres to crash and break. I dont believe we can go any lower, heads will roll in the coaching ranks. Game plans revised and changed. Whats done is done but the kicking needs to stop as ball in hand wins games. Kicking that ball away just makes it so much harder.

2009-11-23T08:40:04+00:00

cookee

Guest


great in twickers;are you guilty of pollyanna syndrome

2009-11-23T08:37:00+00:00

cookee

Guest


yes exactly right ,you are astute ,well done.and no one more responsible than coach denigration

2009-11-23T07:27:19+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


Midfielder, Perhaps it may help shake this Aussie player myth that: "We're going OK, no need to try too hard, I'm still going to keep my spot and my ridiculous salary" Hmm???

2009-11-23T07:24:21+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


Except of course the All Blacks keep winning their games - a small point of contention I realise but one I find somewhat important!

2009-11-23T07:21:57+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


Thats right Pablo - keep you head buried in the sand! You were schooled! Out defended, out passioned, out kicked and out scored! So if your're happy with that by all means! But please don't mention the ALL BLACKS in the same sentence as this PATHETIC Wallabies side, unless it goes something like: "the Wallabies have now lost 7 games and counting to the mighty All Blacks" The Scots played out of their skin and in every way deserved the win!

2009-11-23T07:13:31+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


Chris, "they were comprehensively outplayed in every single facet of the game except place kicking" The Wobblies defence was better was it? The Wobblies kick-chase was better was it? The Wobblies kicking from hand was better was it? The Wobblies composure was better was it? The Wobblies handling under pressure was better was it? Better get that hat and some condiments ready for the pot eh?!!

2009-11-23T07:07:52+00:00

Campbell Watts

Guest


I'm not sure Knives! The Scots passion and nationalistic pride was evident for all to see - that wouldn't change if they played again this weekend. Their defence would be just as punishing, their kick-chase just as desperate, their organisation just as polished. You think the Wallabies hunger could overcome this? You think their pride in the jersey would lift them from this INCREDIBLE LOW and graft for them a win? I think not - they have hearts the size of peas and their commitment to the cause is as strong as the skin on a day-old custard! This malaise runs far deeper than that!!

2009-11-23T06:42:12+00:00

Wal The Hooker

Guest


Pablo I agree the game is flawed I wrote on the rugby heaven site. Why is it the ABs and WBs have forgotten how to score tries? 1 a piece its pretty poor. Now that comes down to execution ultimately, however the non stop kicking is now dominating every test match. Not to take away from Scotland's gutsy effort but why are the rules designed perhaps unintentionally to make a game so dour. It's bloody boring! Even now, finally the English scribes who chastised the SH for the ELV's are crying for change to the rules to promote attack. Funny that! They shunted the ELV's and as a consequence are now realising that today's bigger and faster players can be coached into defensive units, safety first, kick for territory and force a 3 pointer. Which brings me to my next few points, bring back the bloody ruck, reduce the straight arm penalties. Cut the points for penalties and field goals down to 2. I bet attitudes will soon change for more adventurous coaching and a better spectacle. Anyhow my 2 cents worth.

2009-11-23T04:26:47+00:00

Ai Rui Sheng

Guest


The emotions of a team affect the kicker. Notice how often a kick is kicked in touch on the full when a team is rattled.

2009-11-23T03:47:31+00:00

Midfielder

Guest


For the life of me I cannot see any help all these negatives articles bring other than to express a bit of frustration... the real question is if this is our best and we have one of the worlds best coaches .... what is happening at the elite player base ... Sheek has long argued and warned without building blocks being put in place that has a structure from park to test level this would happen... maybe it has started .... ask the question why is this the best squad we have... IMO that is the real question...

2009-11-23T03:10:12+00:00

Chris

Guest


For a start, with a usual success rate of around 75% the chance of Giteau missing that many kicks in a given game is less than 10%. Scotland did what they had to to get the win - and good on them - but they were bloody lucky. The Scots should be proud of themselves for beating the third best team in the world - but they were comprehensively outplayed in every single facet of the game except place kicking. A team that can only get into the opposition 22 once all game cannot expect to win often. I will eat my hat if they (Scotland) win another game in the next 12 months against anyone but Italy.

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