Previewing the Aviva Premiership (Part II)

By Ben S / Roar Guru

Following on from Bath and Gloucester, it is probably fair to say that Harlequins also had a troubled season last year. However new director of rugby, Conor O’Shea, has promised a vibrant brand of rugby, which should suit Harlequins.

There is youthful vigour in the team. But, in my honest opinion, this is a season in which Harlequins need to deliver. At some point, youthful promise needs to develop into results.

And why not this season?

Joe Marler has just come off a good age group World Cup, and offers a punishing carrying game. Conversely, John Andress really needs to fill the scrummaging boots of Mike Ross and consolidate his position at tighthead. James Johnston, brother of Census, also has a big season ahead of him if he is to be a premiership regular.

More significantly, Harlequins need somebody to perform at hooker. Gary Botha, despite his wayward throwing, has been missed and club stalwart Tani Fuga has finally moved on. One cap wonder Matt Cairns is one more club away from journeyman status.

The front row will be locked by the usual suspects, Robson, Kohn and Percival, with Peter Browne added from Newcastle Falcons. I always got the impression that the Quins locks were hard working, but simply not big or dynamic enough to consistently threaten other packs.

The aforementioned trio are slightly undersized and lend a real air of instability to the tight five.

If the tight five is weak the back row is not. Chris Robshaw, who recently captained a mid-week England side, has a last opportunity to combat Tom Croft prior to the World Cup.

It was interesting to note Martin Johnson speaking so highly of Northampton Saints flanker Tom Woods following recent training EPS sessions.

Robshaw has been named captain for the season and plays the role of typical English blindside yeoman to great effect.

Robshaw’s partner Will Skinner is a former Saxons captain who has dropped completely out of the England reckoning. Having been heralded as a future starlet when at Leicester Tigers, the true fetching openside has never quite gained Test recognition, despite putting in some consistently heroic performances.

I think the party line is that he is too small for international rugby.

Robshaw and Skinner will be joined by Nick Easter, who will be eyeing up his World Cup slot. Easter will be deputised by Tom Guest, another bright young thing, who has had dalliances with Saxon duty. Guest has great vision and hands and should embrace O’Shea’s philosophy.

Interestingly, Maurie Fa’asavalu has just joined from St Helens rugby league, where he propped for Great Britain, having previously represented Samoa in the 2003 World Cup as an openside flanker.

Danny Care will be seeking to usurp Ben Youngs as the England 9, and will form a threatening partnership with Nick Evans, with England age group fly half Rory Clegg waiting in the wings.

The Harlequins back five offers a good balance, with the outright pace of Ugo Monye, the intelligence of Ollie Smith at 13, the stability of Mike Brown at 15 and the power of Jordan Turner Hall at 12. As a partnership, Turner Hall-Smith have a lot to prove, both having flirted with England duty, with Smith a 2005 Lion.

The back five may not have the all-round game to worry the top clubs, but guided by Care and Evans they should, at the very least, accrue a handful of try bonus point scores.

However, following true rugby cliché the performances of the backs rely on the pack. One other thing to consider is that Harlequins won’t lose many players to EPS duty, which should allow O’Shea a season of consistency.

Leeds Carnegie have had a busy off-season, with numerous players coming and going. However, only Steve Thompson will be immediately recognisable to the casual fan. Leeds fans might be slightly concerned at the appearances of Southern Hemisphere journeymen Lachlan Mackay and Sean Hohneck, but Neil Back and Andy Key have done a good job in the transfer market to date.

Who would have expected the performances of Marco Wentzel or Hendre Fourie last season, for example?

Kiwi Daniel Browne may be a wise acquisition. Injury prevented him from gaining regular game time at Bath, but he is making his annual claims of attempting to secure places in the Ireland or England squad, which might motivate him to reach greater heights.

Former England and Bath winger Michael Stephenson could be another smart purchase.

He may not offer the outright pace of certain finishers, but he is an intelligent footballer, and should offer a balance to the more physical players like Henry Fa’afili and Semi Tadulala.

The big question is whether Leeds can overcome some significant departures. Seru Rabeni was excellent last season, as was the limited but bulky lock Erik Lund. Significantly, Calum Clark and Joe Ford, son of Mike, two of England’s brighter young things have been tempted by the Northampton Saints.

Given that Leeds based their game plan around a physical pack and their set piece, these four players could be huge losses.

Another key issue, therefore, is whether Leeds can develop their playing style. Neil Back’s core belief is excellent conditioning, and developing the players into elite athletes with the aid of Australian, Steve Nance.

Hopefully this season will see more of an emphasis on ball play. The pack will no doubt be as strong as ever, but will Ceiron Thomas be able to unleash what appears to be a one-dimensional backline?

We’ve seen what has happened to the Springboks under the new law interpretations this season. At the very least England fans will be hoping to see Steve Thompson at his fittest.

At the opposite end of the spectrum are the Leicester Tigers. The Tigers can play both fast and loose, and tight and slow, and have a roster of stars to boot. The irony, and a romantic one it is too, is that it took the rugged and apparently Neanderthal ex-England hooker to free the Tigers from the plodding conservatism of Heynke Meyer.

They haven’t looked back since.

That said, at some point the Tigers fans will demand another Heineken Cup, so this could be a pressured season for Cockerill and his head coach, Matt O’Connor.

A core of stars and local heroes have either retired or departed: Mefin Davies, Harry Ellis, Ben Kay, Sam Vesty, Aaron Mauger, Lewis Moody and Lote Tuqiri.

Despite that, I feel the Tigers have recruited well. The underrated Thomas Waldrom has been brought in, as has former Saxons captain George Skivington and Argentine wing Horacia Agulla. Cockerill has also brought in some relative unknowns to compliment an international squad: young hooker Rob Hawkins and ageing but powerful winger Lee Robinson.

The loss of Moody and Vesty may be particularly galling to fans, but the Tigers rarely stand still, and as stars depart other stars step up to the mark. Think Dan Cole, Tom Croft, Ben Youngs, Anthony Allen and Toby Flood.

These players are accompanied by overseas players Marcus Ayerza, Martin Castrogiovanni, Geordan Murphy, Craig Newby and Scott Hamilton, and a strong English spine: George Chuter, Julian White, Louis Deacon, Jordan Crane and Dan Hipkiss. To that extent the Tigers squad is arguably one of the strongest squads on paper.

It would be very hard not to envisage yet another season of success for them.

One thing to consider is how the new responsibilities of the young England players, Cole and Flood etc, will affect their club performances. It will take a lot of maturity and responsibility to burn the candle at both ends. Beyond that I can’t think of many weak links.

As aforementioned, the squad has a perfect balance of rugged and suave (Deacon and Parling, Croft and Crane, etc), and has a big enough squad to accommodate the EPS agreement.

The Crowd Says:

2010-09-08T13:03:40+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Ian Both Wasps and Sarries aren't even in consideration. Just don't like the clubs. Don't know exactly why but they just don't seem right. Irish are another option purely on the basis that they gave Peter Hewat a home after Australian Rugby unfairly dismissed him. One of my favourite (now former unfortunately) Tahs player's. I'll test the waters a bit when I get there. Bath could be an option.

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2010-09-08T11:57:12+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Yeah, he was a sound enough lad. He used to go the same school, and was in the same year, as Richard Thorpe (London Irish) and Ross Broadfoot (formerly of Leicester Tigers and London Irish). Thanks for the Quins info. I didn't see much of Lowe last year, but what I did see left me a little underwhelmed. I thought he was smallish with mediocre distribution skills (feel free to tell me I'm talking rubbish, btw). I'll keep an eye on him, and Casson too.

2010-09-08T11:42:34+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


Ben Tosh had a good season 08/09 but as Jordan-Hall returned from injury and with Tiesi and the emergence of George Lowe, he got little game time in 09/10. Again popular with Quins fans and incidently was nominated for Asian sportsman of the year; being a Sikh. Obviously very bright and I am sure in time has the potential to become a leading light for the Asian community. George Lowe was Quins outstanding player last season and was awarded the players player award. Difficult to realise he is only 20 and it will be interesting to see whether he kicks on in his second season or suffers from second season syndrome. Big challenge for him as Ollie Smith(British Lion and ex Leicester) has arrived from Montpelier and another youngster, Tom Casson (last years U20 centre) looks very promising.

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2010-09-08T11:26:39+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Thanks Ian. Incidentally, I used to play age group and club rugby with Masson. I was pretty surprised to see his ascent to the Quins 1st Team. Speaking of centres, I noticed on the Rugby World website the other day that the editor, Paul Morgan, said that Lowe is a future Test centre.

2010-09-08T10:25:22+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


On the Quins front Frazier has joined Doncaster to get more game time at prop. Very promising but with the emergence of Marler and JJ as back up to Jones and Lambert would find game time a problem. Could re-emerge in the Premiership if he continues to improve. Tosh Masson has gone back to London Uni. Neil McMillan is on trial at Sale. Very popular at Quins, captained the A team and a whole hearted performer. SS has retired, suffered alot of injuries and on his return last year had lost some of his snap.

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2010-09-07T11:30:45+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Harlequins In Peter Browne (England): Newcastle Falcons Tom Casson (England): Saracens Maurie Fa'savalu (Samoa): St Helens (RL) Joe Gray (England): Northampton Saints David Moore (Ireland): Leinster Ollie Smith (England): Montpellier Benjamin Urdapilleta (Argentina): Pampas XV Out Aston Croall (England): Sale Sharks Josh Drauniniu (England): London Welsh Dan Frazier (England): TBC Tani Fuga (Samoa): Bristol Seb Jewell (England): London Wasps Waisea Luveniyali (Fiji): London Welsh Tosh Masson (England): TBC Neil McMillan (Ireland): TBC Nils Mordt (English): Saracens Steve So’oialo (Samoa): TBC David Strettle (England): Saracens Gonzalo Tiesi (Argentina): Stade Francais -- Leeds Carnegie In Miguel Alonso (Italy): Viadana Daniel Browne (Ireland): Bath Warren Fury (Wales): London Wasps Christian Lewis-Pratt (England): Northampton Saints Sean Hohneck (NZ): Viadana Lachlan MacKay (Australia): CA Brive Jesus Moreno Rodriguez (Spain): Boredeaux-Begles Michael Stephenson (England): Bath Semi Tadulala (Fiji): Gloucester James Tincknell (England): Wharfedale Andy Titterrell (England) Steve Thompson (England): CA Brive Out Scott Armstrong (England): Northampton Saints Joe Bedford (England): Rotherham Titans Peter Bucknall (England): Leicester Tigers Calum Clark (England): Northampton Saints Joe Ford (England): Northampton Saints Andy Gomarsall (England): Retired Jon Goodridge (England): TBC Jonny Hepworth (England): Rotherham Titans Erik Lund (Norway): Biarritz Olympique Vili Ma'asi (Tonga): London Welsh Phil Murphy (England): TBC Tommy McGee (Scotland): TBC Alex Moreno (Italy): Retired Henry Paul (England): Rotherham Titans Seru Rabeni (Fiji): La Rochelle Rob Rawlinson (England): Retired Jason Strange (Wales): TBC George Warner (England): Moseley Richard Welding (England): Rotherham Titans -- Leicester Tigers In Horacio Agulla (Argentina): CA Brive Peter Bucknall (England): Leeds Carnegie Rob Hawkins (England): Bath Lee Robinson (England): Bristol George Skivington (England): London Wasps Thomas Waldrom (NZ): Crusaders Out Mefin Davies (Wales): Ospreys Brett Deacon (England): Gloucester Harry Ellis (England): Retired Robbie Harris (SA): Montauban Ben Kay (England): Retired Aaron Mauger (NZ): Retired Lewis Moody (England): Bath Johne Murphy (Ireland): Munster Greig Tonks (England): Northampton Saints Lote Tuqiri (Australia): Wests Tiger (RL) Sam Vesty (England): Bath --

2010-09-06T23:39:11+00:00

Colin N

Guest


Agree. Toulouse do have the ability to be brilliant, but are primarily a conservative side. Their players have very high skill levels but very rarely use them. I've never been a fan of PSA and the Newcastle game on Friday was the most entertaining match I've seen Sale play since Jim Mallinder was the main man. There is a rumour, though, that PSA could be the first coach to be given the axe in the Top 14. They have a wonderful side on paper (as did Sale under Saint-Andre) but he doesn't get the best out of them.

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2010-09-06T19:12:48+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Cheers Colin. I'll look that up. PSA is insane. I'm convinced. Why he was allowed to coach the Barbarians and has been given so much money at Toulon is beyond me? Specifically, Montpellier v Toulouse was woeful. Why do people still persist with this 'Toulouse play champagne rugby' myth? Just like the French national side. French rugby is, like you say, v. conservative.

2010-09-06T15:18:27+00:00

Colin N

Guest


I'm not personally a big fan of the Top 14 although I still watch it in the hope of an exciting match. There's a (wrong) stereotype that the English game is conservative but people should watch the French game. The referees, so far, have been woeful in introducing the NLI's into their game. Agen-Perpignan was enjoyable and so was Toulon-Racing Metro. I did find it funny when Philippe Saint-Andre said Toulon would be playing expansive rugby this season, but have instead reverted back to type - I don't think they've scored a try in their last couple of games. As for Irish, I didn't think they were playing with the much confidence in the first-half, but once they got ahead, they played some good stuff. If you did miss any of the action, there's a really good new website called Premiershiprugby.tv which has extended highlights of around 40 minutes. It only costs £4.99 a month.

2010-09-06T14:52:26+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


As a Quins STH can't resist a pop at the "nots nots", not Irish and not in London, actually based in Reading. Quins play at the Stoop opposite Twickenham rugby stadium convenient for all parts of London but more so if live on the West Side. Look at the Quins web site, www.quins.co.uk Prices etc are on the web site. Quins is a friendly family based environment with real ale bars. Improving rugby team with a great emphasis on youth and English qualified players whom if they can stay together will mature with age. Conor O'Shea the new DOR speaks alot of Irish blarney but is well respected and is giving the squad alot of self belief. There is a supporters group called Quinssa which organises various functions during the season including tickets for European games. However I would also recommend that you should come to a few games and if you like the atmosphere then become involved if not try one of the other "London clubs", Saracens based in Watford and Wasps based in Wycombe, both venues outside London. Quins are the only club that actually plays in London otherthan the occasional Saracens game at Wembley. Sorry can't resist a pop at the other so-called London clubs.

2010-09-06T14:35:15+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


18 miles

2010-09-06T13:26:34+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


Exeter, Plymouth, Redruth and the rest of Devon and Cornwall is a traditional rugby heartland. Football doesn't really feature and if Exeter Chiefs can stay in the EPL then the clamour for seats will outstrip present capacity very quickly.

2010-09-06T13:24:59+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Ian How far is MK Don from franklin gardens?

2010-09-06T13:21:40+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


Yes Bath have wanted to redevelop the Rec but as you will know from it's location it is in the historic heart of Bath and there are considerable planning difficulties. They need the extra space and as it is more unlikely that redevelopment of the Rec will be possible they will be forced to move. They don't want to move but to meet demand there probably is no alternative. Wasps are actively working with the local council to find an alternative site; Adams Park only holds 8500. Northampton have had their planning application turned down. According to a report, their site is big enough to enlarge Franklin Gardens but the council is being difficult and Northampton are threatening to use MK Dons stadium more frequently to meet demand. Might they be forced out of Northampton, who knows but watch this space.

2010-09-06T13:21:30+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Wouldn't you expect the Exeter crowd to at least remain at that level if not build up due their first up win.

2010-09-06T13:16:32+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Watched Marler in the U20 Wc and was very impressed with him. Big, strong and most remarkably extremely athletic young Prop. Guys of his ilk prove Will Greenwood's assertion that the traditional prop will become a thing of past.

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2010-09-06T13:10:31+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


I only caught the Irish v Sarcens game, Colin, which was particularly remiss of me. I quite enjoyed that, but thought the attacking play of both sides was pretty one-dimensional until Goode was sin binned. I haven't been overly impressed with the Magners either, and some of the Top 14 games I've seen this season have been utterly dire. Hopefully things will click over the next few weeks.

2010-09-06T13:07:44+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Ian Oh and a quick question. What to you get as a Quins STH. My whole family and I will be moving North in a couple of years ( my mother's Irish and wants to go back) and I will likely be basing myself in London. I'm the sort of person who likes plan things a long way out. At the moment its a toss up between Quins and Irish to become my local team when I move. Just want to get the inside info from a STH as to the perks and overall match day experience at the Stoop.

2010-09-06T13:07:08+00:00

Ian Noble

Guest


In the A team final at Leicester, Marler was up against a certain Julian White and he was outstanding to the point that White lost his cool and took a swing at Marler All the Tigers fans around couldn't believe what they were seeing,a 20 year old outplaying White, and they wouldn't forget that performance He is already a bit of a cult hero at the Stoop and together with JJ, the biggest player in the EPL they could become an immense force during this season. In the boiler room the general feeling is that Nick Easter will play more there to allow Tom Guest to play at 8. Guest when he came on in the 2nd half made an immediate impact. As I said before underestimate Quins front 5 at your peril.

2010-09-06T13:01:51+00:00

Working Class Rugger

Guest


Ian Are you suggesting that some clubs are restricted by the size of their stadia? I have actually attended a game at the Rec back in 2006 when I was last in England. Great atmosphere. There was a campaign to keep the team their and not to re-develop if I remember correctly. Great to hear of the continued growth of the now AP. With the NLI's hopefully this will continue.

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