What's the time frame on a 'project player'?

By MyLeftFoot / Roar Guru

Most AFL clubs have one. Generally they are over 6’4″, because big guys take longer to ‘mature’. Or, he may be from a limited footy background – but generally, still likely to be over 6’4″. The question is, what is the time frame for a ‘project player’?

Project players by their definition are seen to have a great ‘up side’. That’s coaching speak for ‘potential’. Just how much that potential is evident or just wishful thinking is another question.

Some of the players that clearly are project players include Mike Pyke at the Swans. A Canadian, he came in his mid 20s to the Swans from an international rugby background. He’s a big guy, a ruckman, and got two years as an international rookie. He at least had the body and attitude of a professional athlete.

He’s been groomed for the ruck – one of the very much more specialised roles. And, two years in, he’s cracked it for a senior listing and a ‘real’ contract.

Due to injury to Shane Mumford and Mark Seaby at the Swans this year, he got more match time than he would otherwise have got, learning on the job, he showed enough in Round 22 to help ruck the Swans into a home final. How close would he have been to being cut? Or to just rolling over on the rookie list for another one or two years?

How long would he have had?

Other project players include Majak Daw at North Melbourne, a Sudanese refugee who is very ‘raw’, but has shown undoubted talent coming through the ranks and the TAC Cup. At 19, does he get three years?

At Carlton we still see Irish project player Setanta O’hAilpin retained. He’s shown glimpses, but he’s been there six years now for 72 games.

At Port, Dean Brogan did the basketball switch and became a success. Others include Kurt Tippett and Jesse White.

Project players these days have access to better specialist coaching, better specialist facilities, and certain clubs in particular have a greater track record to successful projects than others – due mainly to the scope for greater off-field investment.

And so we see Collingwood into the second year now with American basketballer Shae McNamara, and they have again dipped their toe in the Emerald waters to rookie list young Irish lad Paul Cribbin (191cm).

One of the surprises in this years rookie draft was taken by Geelong, George Burbury from Hobart. He’d put footy on the backburner for 2010 and put school rowing as his priority. Geelong had seen enough previously. He got drafted despite not being available for Tassie in the under-18 nationals. The Geelong Advertiser put it this way: “Burbury, who has played footy most of his life, looms as a project player for the Cats.”

But, unlike the typical project player, young George stands ‘only’ 180 cms and weighs in at 69kg.

How long will George get?

The Crowd Says:

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2011-05-20T03:42:21+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Golly, how topical given the Karmichael Hunt thread today. Had a laugh at the Santana vs Setanta typo..........and, seriously, it was only worthy of a chuckle, and not character assasination. Karmichael Hunt is NOT expected to be a flying success this year. The examples of the past suggest that by sometime next year it should start to click. The clear exception to most the 'convert' rules was Marty Clarke at Collingwood who was able to add value inside his first season..

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2011-05-20T00:19:49+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Really odd that comments on an AFL tab that vastly and ignorantly misrepresent the AFL game development spend across 2007-2011 are retained on the site, however, comments illustrating the falsehood with correct and actual quotes to AFL annual reports (that are freely available and can be googled in an instant) are pulled down by the editors. Is there an agenda at play? btw - re project players - good to see Setanta back in the line up doing okay for the Blues.

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2011-04-11T02:08:20+00:00

MyLeftFoot

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Berlin has started a second metro footy league, with all four clubs affiliated with AFL clubs: http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20110409091110585#comments

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2011-04-08T03:30:36+00:00

MyLeftFoot

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Buddy might be carrying an injury: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-says-lance-franklin-will-play-against-richmond/story-e6freck3-1226035963092

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2011-04-08T02:36:37+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


GWS eyeing the dogs' Callan Ward - he'd be a big loss, about to hit his prime, will be an excellent player. With an already terrific midfield consisting of Boyd, Cross, Cooney and Griffen, now with Ward, Libba and Wallis coming through the ranks - it's a midfield that can stay amongsst the elite for years to come. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/bulldogs-cant-ward-off-giants/story-e6frg7mf-1226035644663

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2011-04-06T03:44:31+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Pies vs Blues match this Friday set to draw in excess of 85k: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/finally-a-real-blockbuster--piesblues-selling-fast-20110406-1d3oe.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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2011-04-06T03:42:03+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Micky Malthouse reckons the Suns' first round shellacking is bad news for the Giants, especailly in their quest to recruite quality players: http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=110975

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2011-04-06T03:39:53+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Mt Gravatt has defeated the Gold Coast Suns reserves in the first round of the NEAFL by 28 pts: http://www.aflfeeds.com/article/vultures_over_power_gc_suns

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2011-04-06T03:37:35+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Melbourne announced today that it created history at 11.34am on Tuesday, when it signed up its 33,359th member for 2011 - breaking its previous record of 33,358, set in 2010. This is the fourth consecutive year Melbourne has broken its membership record and it is still growing.

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2011-04-06T03:35:00+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


That Denmark scoreline was actually: Denmark 12.7.79 def Sweden 4.5.29 These are the latest world rankings after the completion of those friendlies: http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20110405215258716

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2011-04-06T03:28:17+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


This is the NZ AFL strategic plan: http://www.nzafl.co.nz/Portals/0/1.A...n2010-2012.pdf 5mb download. Key points: *20 AFL International scholarships to be signed by the end of 2012 with two of these players playing an AFL fixture. *100% of New Zealand Schools to have access to programmes delivered by AFL New Zealand. *19,000 New Zealanders to participate in programmes annually over a minimum of 8 weeks duration, delivered by AFL New Zealand.

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2011-04-06T03:25:21+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Some results from recent European friendlies: Irish Warriors 8.11 def British Bulldogs 8.6 (excellent result for the Brits, played in Dublin) Denmark Vikings 80 def Sweden Elks 29, played in Farum, Denmark Some highlights and interviews from the Denmark game courtesy of Denmark Sports TV: http://www.tv2lorry.dk/video?video_id=50214

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2011-04-06T03:20:11+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Brett Kirk recently turned out for the Spanish Bulls in a game against Wandsworth Demons, played in Madrid. http://australiantimes.co.uk/sport/Wandsworth-Demons-clinch-win-against-the-Spanish-Bulls The Bulls led narrowly at half time, but the Demons came back in the 2nd half to win by 17pts.

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2011-04-06T03:04:44+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


This is the latest on the AIS-AFL game in London on April 23 against the European Legion. http://australiantimes.co.uk/sport/AFL-young-guns-to-take-on-Europe-in-London The European Legion will draw players from Croatia, Denmark, UK, France, Ireland and Sweden. They will be an U21s team, the AIS-AFL team will be U18s - the big age difference in favour of the Europeans is necessary to even out the skills of either team, recalling that many of the AIS team will actually be draftable at the end of this season. The tour also includes a stopover in Turkey for ANZAC Day commemorative services - a worthwhile trip all round.

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2011-04-05T07:27:48+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


BBC is reporting that the Football League will be copping a 69m pound drop in its next TV deal (3 year deal). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12965536 If the AFL manage to get their $1 billion deal, it would be a very, very good result indeed.

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2011-04-05T05:47:28+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


A footy pundit mentioned on twitter earlier today that by their reckoning, Hunt leaked about 8 to 10 goals playing in defence. I had come up with a similar tally shortly after the game: direct opponent marking and goaling, pushing ball out to the disadvantage of the team, letting the loose ball get past him, failing to tackle an opponent about to goal, or standing and watching as the action went on around him. One gets the impression that he was completely bewildered by the pace of the game, that he not had any true understanding just how fast the game was at the elite level, and how much running was demanded of him. By the time Eddie Betts easily broke his tackle to score one of the last goals of the game, Hunt would have been dead on his feet and had nothing to give, while Betts was still running at full pace, sheer momentum breaking the tackle. That's what sums up the modern AFL player - still able to run at full pace at the 2 hour mark of the game.

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2011-04-05T03:31:17+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Suns lack hard bodies: http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gold-coast-suns-lack-hard-bodies-paul-roos-and-mike-sheahan-say-on-on-the-couch/story-e6frf3e3-1226033973430?from=public_rss

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2011-04-05T03:27:13+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


STOP THE PRESS AFL denies that a TV rights deal has been agreed: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tipped-to-see-carlton-take-on-collingwood/story-e6frf9jf-1226033539163 Nine claim that they are still in the running to get a cut of the action.

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2011-04-05T02:45:17+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


7, 10 and Fox are very close to completing the $1 billion AFL TV rights deal for the next 5 years. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afls-1bn-rights-deal-20110404-1cyqz.html

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2011-04-05T02:02:30+00:00

MyLeftFoot

Roar Guru


Today, in the same paper, Brent Read reckons Issy will be back in the NRL next year: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/isreal-folua-flounders-on-foreign-field/story-e6frg7mf-1226033249126

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