Can the Reds better their showing of 2010?

By formeropenside / Roar Rookie

Well, in the end, the finals were a bridge too far, but the Queensland Reds can hold their heads high after a strong performance in 2010.

Ewen McKenzie brought out the best in a young side he had no hand in shaping, with only a handful of selection and coaching errors costing the Reds dear against the Tahs (misuse of bench) and Brumbies (Holmes should have started at 3 ahead of Kennedy).

The emergency contracting of Samo proved a masterstroke when Byrnes and Simmons went down injured, and for the most part the Academy talent exposed to S14 performed extremely well, with James Slipper going on to a Wallaby tour.

2010 was the first year since 2004 that the Reds did not lose significant home grown talent (although the loss of southerners Weeks and to a lesser extent Byrnes is unwelcome).

One could put together quite a talented starting 15 out of players who have left Queensland in the last five years, but that is a issue for another day (Latham, Mitchell, Pelesasa, Sailor, JOC, Barnes, Berry, Chapman, Pocock, Doherty, MMM, Sharpe, Court, Moore, Blake).

Peter Hynes was a revelation at fullback: in a pre-season trial I thought his kicking needed work, but over the course of the season, it was apparent that his running kick returns were superb, and his kicking more than adequate under the new laws that rewarded possession.

Throw in Davies electric speed, and Digby’s power, and the Reds have a seriously fast and dangerous back three for 2011, with Luke Morahan as ample backup. Chambers proved a powerful outside centre and would likely be a Wallaby save for injury, with Digby Ioane also providing a similar option at 13.

Turinui was unlucky to find himself on the outer with Link for the second time in his career. In his time at 13 for the Reds, he did nothing wrong and a lot right. He would have made a good signing for the Rebels, but has gone to France instead.

Anthony Faingaa made the 12 jersey his own in 2010, with a direct style of play that nonetheless was far from being a simple crashballer.

After a mediocre 2009 he needed to perform, and certainly did so.

His midfield defence was jolting and effective. He rightly earned a Wallaby call up. One option for 2011 might be Ioane at 12, in the manner of Nonu – something hard to imagine when Ioane returned home a few years ago. Now it is a possibility, for Faingaa was an excellent foil for Cooper in 2010. Harris is also a 12 possibility, as is Tapuai.

It was in the halves of Genia and Cooper that the Reds really shone in 2010.

This looks to be a potent future combination – Genia with a superb pass and strong running options, and Cooper with pinpoint long passing, a fine kicking game, and a running game that always had to be watched. Cooper’s maturity this year, especially against the Chiefs, a bogey side for him in the past, was the making of him in 2010 as a near-complete footballer.

His defensive issue will have to be watched in 2011, and whether the Reds can manage this as well as they did in 2010 remains to be seen.

From the largely uncapped pack of 2010, Daley, Faingaa, Slipper, Simmons, Humphries and Higginbotham have now earned Wallaby caps to add to existing Wallabies: Holmes, Shepherdson, Samo and Horwill. The Reds lineout was good in 2010, and under lineout general Humphries should stay that way.

A backup lineout leader is needed, however, and this will have to be developed.

The Reds scrum was solid in 2010, but rarely dominant (and rarely smashed). One sad downside to the acquisition of Shepherdson is the loss of up and coming youngster THP Paul Alo-Emile to the Western Force. Hopefully he will come home in a season or two without having gone too far backwards.

The departure of Laurie Weeks to Melbourne is regrettable, but while Weeks was always dependable in the scrums, he was never destructive.

A similar comment can be made about Daley at scrumtime.

It may be that Greg Holmes, as a better scrummager, starts as a LHP with Slipper as THP (or vice versa, as both can play both sides). Daley may be a benchwarmer, despite his all-around game. Luckily, with that level of depth, including Shepherdson, the front row can handle an injury or two. The question of where to play Slipper – arguably Australia’s first choice LHP and THP by the end of 2010 – is an interesting one.

Of the hookers, S. Faingaa has to replicate his 2010 Super 14 form rather than that of prior years. He rightly earned a Wallaby callup in 2010, but in the mode of an extra backrower rather than a solid ballrunner. James Hanson, the likely backup hooker, is in a broadly similar mould, albeit with a better running game.

Only young Anae – who can play both hooker and prop – is a “bulky” hooker in the mode of Moore or TPN.

If Horwill can stay fit in 2011, then the Reds second row stocks look strong, with current Wallaby Simmons, former Wallabies Samo and AWH, and veteran Wallaby tourist Van Humphries all being able to fill a spot at Super level, and having a varying skill set, as well as Samo and AWH having the ability to play 6.

The back row for the Reds will miss the huge presence of Daniel Braid: Higginbotham and Houston are probably the starting 6 and 8 respectively, assuming that Houston can repeat his 2010 form rather than that of prior years, which seemed to involve about 20 minutes of action per match.

At 7, Liam Gill of Sevens fame is a chance to spend some time at openside, although Schatz did that job in 2010 on occasion.

Lei Tomiki may also get a shot. Gill is not yet 19 and may not be physically ready for a whole season of Super rugby.

Beau Robinson and Ben Coridas are in the Reds Academy and might get some game-time, but this would be a shame so long as there is a real Queenslander able to fill the slot, and sends a sad message to the young trio of Gill, Schatz and Quirk. Keeping Robinson and Coridas ready to return to the Tahs when Waugh retires is hardly the best use of Queensland rugby’s resources.

Schatz and Quirk are in the frame to play 6 or 8 for the Reds – as is Horwill, Samo and AWH, at a pinch. With a long season they will probably get a starting run sooner rather than later.

The best 22 is probably:

1 Daley/Slipper,
2 S. Faingaa,
3 Holmes/Slipper,
4 Horwill,
5 Humphries/Simmons,
6 Higginbotham,
7 Gill/Schatz,
8 Houston/Schatz,

9 Genia,
10 Cooper,
11 Ioane,
12 A. Faingaa,
13 Chambers,
14 Davies,
15 Hynes,

16 Hanson,
17 Holmes/Slipper,
18 Humphries/Simmons,
19 Houston/Schatz/Gill,
20 Lucas,
21 Tapuai (or possibly Harris),
22 Morahan.

Roll on 2011!

The Crowd Says:

2011-01-28T12:52:07+00:00

Denby

Guest


No Hynes or A.Fiangaa?

2011-01-27T22:59:06+00:00

Mike G

Guest


spot on RR...just support your team and stop whinging about where players came from on an aside, nobody's mentioned what Link seems to favour in terms of 2nd row/backrow...putting Horwill at 6, with Van & Simmons in the 2 row...Add Higgers at 8, prob Gill at 7 and away you go! my front row would be Slipper, Faingaa & Daley (3,2,1)...Link loves Daley, and you can see why...fights above his weight every game...don't forget scrums, whilst an obviously critical element of the setpiece, are not as important in the modern era...

2011-01-27T05:28:28+00:00

formeropenside

Guest


The actual team - although its a trial rather than Super rugby: Reds team to play Crusaders (from fullback): Rod Davies, Aidan Toua, Digby Ioane, Will Chambers, Luke Morahan, Quade Cooper, Will Genia (vc), Scott Higginbotham, Liam Gill, Radike Samo, Van Humphries, James Horwill (c), James Slipper, Saia Faingaa, Ben Daley. Reserves: Kimami Sitauti, Ben Tapuai, Mike Harris, Ian Prior, Leroy Houston, Lei Tomiki, Beau Robinson, Ben Coridas, David McDuling, Guy Shepherdson, James Hanson, Albert Anae, Greg Holmes Ian Prior from the Academy comes in for Lucas, who is injured.

2011-01-27T03:39:04+00:00

Rugbyleads

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justin.tv and myp2p.eu Doesn't seem to be anyone slated to do official internet providing of games sadly (Sportszone has lost this). This is a major bummer as it was a godsend for those of us who cant afford Foxtel :-(

2011-01-27T03:01:14+00:00

formeropenside

Guest


I think that is the first time someone has even accused me of focusing on negatives in regard to Queensland rugby.

2011-01-27T02:41:29+00:00

Doggies Reporter

Guest


For those looking for a bit more impact from the loosies how about Samo at 6 and Higginbotham at 8? Both genuine lineout options and with speed and aggressive defence to boot. Ioane looks good at training and has picked up a yard or so of pace and he works well with Cooper so he will be worth the entry fee just to to see him with ball in hand.

2011-01-27T02:32:28+00:00

Denby

Guest


formeropenside You want him to return home? I believe home is where you make it and Pocock seems very happy in Perth. But if you want him to return to the place he was born and grew up, you must want him to go back to Zimbabwe. He moved to Australia when he was 14 and left for perth when he was 17.

2011-01-26T03:31:01+00:00

Red Rooster

Guest


pretty petty stuff - if you did the same for the Brumbies over the years, the force and now the rebels there are bugger all locals - who cares you support the team

2011-01-25T22:25:35+00:00

Train Without A Station

Guest


I still laugh at that. Great Openside, nowhere nears as good a footballer as Smith however. And Gill is 10kg away from being anywhere near Super Rugby. 90kg is far too small for the pack regardless of how good you are today.

2011-01-25T06:09:49+00:00

AJ

Guest


Schatz had surgery on a leg? not sure when back but out for the start hence Robinson and Corids move.

2011-01-25T05:52:07+00:00

formeropenside

Guest


Ioane and Humphries have played all their senior rugby in Qld, for what thats worth. Incidentally, the 28 man squad for the Cairns trial against the Crusaders is: Forwards: Albert Anae, Ben Coridas, Ben Daley, Saia Faingaa, Liam Gill, James Hanson, Scott Higginbotham, Greg Holmes, James Horwill (captain), Leroy Houston, Van Humphries, David McDuling, Beau Robinson, Radike Samo, Guy Shepherdson, James Slipper, Lei Tomiki Backs: Will Chambers, Quade Cooper, Rod Davies, Will Genia, Mike Harris, Digby Ioane, Ben Lucas, Luke Morahan, Kimami Sitauti, Ben Tapuai, Aidan Toua McDuling, Coridas and Robinson are all out of the Academy, as is Toua (although Toua had a Reds contract a few years back and then had a succession of serious injuries).

2011-01-25T04:44:36+00:00

methysticum

Guest


FO Don't look down too much on non-Queenslanders in your team. Last year's excellent Reds' side featured Ioane (Victoria), Faainga A (ACT), Houston (NSW), Braid (NZ), Humprhries (NSW), Weeks (NSW) and Faainga S (ACT); plus Samo from Fiji via the Brumbies and Stade Francais. Of the great Queenslanders you listed that got away Latham and Blake both played grade rugby in NSW before heading north.

2011-01-25T04:41:35+00:00

Gary Russell-Sharam

Guest


I know that Huston is an 8 but not a six as I might have incorrectly inferred, still doesn't change my opinion of him though. I would be playing Shatz at 8

2011-01-25T04:38:06+00:00

Gary Russell-Sharam

Guest


Reasonably fair post, it is hard to pick the side, a lot of personal choices come into it. I do however agree that Holmes would be my pick at either T or LH seeing that he is injury free for the first time in nearly two years. And I too think that we have seen the last of van the man, he will be on the bench and will be a valuable asset for this season and I would think that this will be his swan song, thats if Horwill and Simmonds remain injury free. I think we are a bit thin in the halves area if Genia or Cooper are injured we don't have much to back up. Also agree that we have 6 and 7 well covered with Shatz Higgy and Gill, I'm no fan of Huston (big mobile and soft). The Reds backline looks to be the best in the S15 on paper and I will look forward to the first game with some eagerness to see how Ioane comes up after injury I'm also looking forward to seeing how Chambers performs. I also thought the Morgan Tuanui was very unlucky he played very well last season but was discarded by Link (much to my disappointment) I glad he has gone to France he was a very good wallaby and was not well treated in his last few years here I hope he finishes his career over in France and earns a few well deserved dollars for his retirement.

2011-01-25T04:26:32+00:00

Nathan

Guest


Reds are a massive chance, with a lightning fast backline you'd think they'll spin it wide at every opportunity. the only thing that might derail them is injuries, other than that i reckon they'll finish top of the aussie conference and then anything could happen!

2011-01-25T01:48:56+00:00

Willy

Guest


Well I certainly hope so. That would make him a very good player, and increase the depth of Aussie rugby significantly.

2011-01-25T00:46:58+00:00

RedsNut

Guest


With my sig, what do you reckon I think/ :) Oh, and please tell where the streaming web sites are to be found. For the Super Rugby, and the NH 6 Nations. Please, please

2011-01-25T00:17:15+00:00

ben

Guest


I really liked what i saw out of Shatz last season.....I think he needs to start at 7, especially against some of the bigger packs. Simmons and Horwill could be the Wallaby combination at 2nd row.....where does that leave Van the Man? Going to be great season, i just hope Reds start with a flyer

2011-01-25T00:02:09+00:00

formeropenside

Guest


Some good judges think so. Remember, not all that long ago saying Pocock would be better than Smith would be laughed at.

2011-01-24T23:57:52+00:00

Willy

Guest


Gill will be better than Pocock? Really? Or are you just talking him up?

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