Coast anger at Victory tactics

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    Angry Gold Coast United coach Miron Bleiberg has blasted Melbourne Victory’s tactics as brutal and intimidatory after they defeated his A-League side 2-0 at AAMI Park on Sunday.

    Just a week after Victory were heavily criticised in the wake of Kevin Muscat’s now-infamous tackle in the Melbourne derby, Bleiberg let rip at the club for what he and his players described as a war-like first half.

    Perhaps trying to spotlight the issue ahead of a likely meeting with the Victory in the first week of the finals, Bleiberg said United were bullied out of the match by what he called the home side’s overly physical tactics and behind-the-play niggling.

    He was particularly incensed about losing midfielder Bas van den Brink inside the first few minutes to a Grant Brebner tackle which resulted in a leg injury, and the fact the Victory only received two yellow cards for the game.

    “I’m not happy about it. We in Australia in the A-League want to play good football. This, according to my players, was a brutal game,” Bleiberg said.

    “We got beaten because the other team were better, but we also got intimidated today.

    “Especially in the first half, it was a war.

    “We got fouled and fouled and fouled and they got warned.

    “I don’t mind to lose a football game, but what happened today – it was a war in the first half.

    “You watch it, it was dirty. It wasn’t the A-League the way I want to see it.”

    Skipper Michael Thwaite, a former Victory player who won a championship with the club, echoed Bleiberg’s sentiments about his old team’s tactics.

    “We played a lot different back then, we won the treble,” Thwaite said of his 2008-09 season there.

    “In two years, I don’t think we (Gold Coast) have ever lowered ourselves to play that physical style. We’ve always tried to maintain a footballing culture at our club.

    “We’re not going to lower ourselves to become brutal like that, because it’s not what we’re about and it’s not what we’re going to do in the finals.”

    Regardless of any perceived physicality, the Victory were the better team over the 90 minutes played in searing heat, winning with two high-quality Danny Allsopp goals.

    Allsopp struck in each half to all but assure his side an A-League finals berth, giving fifth-placed Victory a seven-point buffer over seventh-placed Melbourne Heart with two games remaining.

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    • Roar Guru

      January 31st 2011 @ 7:37am
      Fussball ist unser leben said | January 31st 2011 @ 7:37am | ! Report

      Another Monday morning and another anti-MVFC rant from a manager of a team that regularly fails to produce during the crunch games against strong opposition, and is now under extreme pressure with 4 games remaining – 3 games against the top 3 teams.

      And, he knows MVFC breathing down his neck in competition for a home final.

      I was at AAMI Park yesterday and, quite frankly, Gold Coast were disgraceful – in their tactics, in their endeavour, in their technique and with their tackling.

      Miron should have a look at the FACTs to identify, which team were the hackers and which played football

      FOULS committed yesterday: MVFC: 7 GCU: 13
      POSSESSION: MVFC: 60% GCU: 40% … Here’s a bit of free managerial tactical advice, Miron … your team could not be tackled by MVFC b/c your team hardly had the ball!!

      Every time Carlos went near the ball, he was chopped down from behind or held. Marvin & Mate got the same treatment, but these guys are gentlemen, who only know how to retaliate one way … by making GCU look like amateurs.

      However, if opponents decide to hack away at Brebs, Leijer, Vargas or Danny, guess what … they’ll eventually hack back at you. Except MVFC lads don’t go crying to their daddy/manager and ask him to complain to the teacher/FFA.

      With Robbie K, Archie & Surat to return in the next week, the rest of the HAL now realise that the VICTORY ARE COMING … and opponents are starting to “soil their trousers”.

      • January 31st 2011 @ 7:53am
        JohnL said | January 31st 2011 @ 7:53am | ! Report

        Another Monday morning and another ‘Victory are Angels’ repsonse by Fussball ist unser leben. Tell me something about your FACTs? Or at least define this. If a players runs his stubs down another oppenents calf with his tags and has a foul called against him, and in another incident the opponent has the ball hit his hand and has a fould called against him, are both players deemed to be equally as dirty or clean as they have 1 foul each?

        The number of fouls doesn’t indicate that intention of the foul. And that is a FACT.

      • January 31st 2011 @ 9:46am
        Golden Boy said | January 31st 2011 @ 9:46am | ! Report

        Fuss, the only hackers I saw on the field were the protege’s of Muscat. Did you count the number of yellow cards GCU FC received? All the yellow cards on the day were given to Melbourne Victory’s R. Vargas, T. Pondeljak, which duly out weighed the GCU players. And to see Muscat stand and acknowledge the cheers from the Victory fans, is testament to the disgraceful culture that exist at the club. Noted by none other then Les Murray and Craig Foster. You would do better to acknowledge the shortcomings of those bad elements there; get rid of them, and get the club back on track playing good football and not with brutality..

        • Roar Guru

          January 31st 2011 @ 10:41am
          Fussball ist unser leben said | January 31st 2011 @ 10:41am | ! Report


          Only one team played any type of reasonable football yesterday – with 2 cracking individual goals – and it certainly wasn’t the lads from up north.

          You’re kidding if you think Podeljak is a “hard player” or some sort of Muscat protege.

          And here’s a gem for you Muscat-haters … prior to this season, the new “golden boy of Australian football”, Matt McKay had picked up as many red cards (3) as Kevin Muscat, including 2 red cards in Season 1 of the HAL.

          • January 31st 2011 @ 11:18am
            Golden Boy said | January 31st 2011 @ 11:18am | ! Report

            And how many career ending tackles has McKay committed in comparison to Muscat’s glorious on field achievements.

        • Roar Guru

          January 31st 2011 @ 3:54pm
          Fussball ist unser leben said | January 31st 2011 @ 3:54pm | ! Report

          Oh, and by the way, Pondeljak’s yellow card was for dissent. Pondeljak had been hacked from behind but, of course, b/c he plays for MVFC it’s does not always result in a free-kick.

          He didn’t even complain so the ref, obviously embarrassed, tried to explain why he didn’t pay the foul and Tommy was fed-up and just waved the Ref away.

          And, for waving the ref away, Tommy Pondeljak, MVFC player, got a yellow card!


    • Roar Guru

      January 31st 2011 @ 11:28am
      MyLeftFoot said | January 31st 2011 @ 11:28am | ! Report

      There’s personal bias and prejudice, then there are the facts.

      Here are the facts, directly from the A-Leauge site itself:

      Fouls committed:
      MV 9
      Gold Coast 15

      And Bleiberg has a public cry about MV being overly physical and intimidatory?!

      Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

      Thwaite makes out that the treble was won in 2008-09 by playing less physical.

      How would he know? He was out of the team by the time the Victory made their run to the Premiership late in the season.

      Give me a break.

    • Roar Guru

      January 31st 2011 @ 11:43am
      Fussball ist unser leben said | January 31st 2011 @ 11:43am | ! Report

      Hey Miron et al

      Here’s the foul count for the 6 matches MVFC v GCU .. only once has MVFC committed more fouls and, even in that game, GCU had a player sent off!

      Total: MVFC 74 GCU 93

      29-08-10: MVFC 10; GCU 18
      06-11-10: MVFC 10; GCU 11
      30-01-11: MVFC: 9; GCU 15

      26-09-09: MVFC: 23 GCU 15, but … GCU had a player sent off!
      28-11-09: MVFC 10 GCU 16
      29-01-10: MVFC 12 GCU 18

    • January 31st 2011 @ 6:15pm
      gawa said | January 31st 2011 @ 6:15pm | ! Report

      I’m suprised that anyone is suprised, Victory have been increasing the physical aspect of their game for the last few seasons.
      Similar trends started to appear at Brisbane when we had Moore, Tiatto even Bob Malcolm tried a bit of wrestling in one particularly funny but sad match. The match officials did not seem to have as much of an issue handing out cards to Brisbane players around that time and cynical watchers of the game might suggest that was because Brisbane do not pull as many fans through the turnstiles as Victory.
      If it is any indication of future growth of Melbourne Heart, a friend of mine has just moved to Melbourne and has adopted Heart as a second team. The logical move would have been to adopt Victory and he would have more likely to be watching a trophy winning side, but his dislike of the Victory win at all costs culture and the abrasive style they have adopted as the clubs football philosphy turned him away.

      • Roar Guru

        January 31st 2011 @ 7:32pm
        Fussball ist unser leben said | January 31st 2011 @ 7:32pm | ! Report

        MVFC has 18.5k members and the maximum membership – given the capacity constraints of the AAMI Park stadium – is 22k

        Heart needs all the support it can muster so, as a MVFC member I say BRAVO that your mate has chosen them .. of course, he’ll be without any football action after next w/e, whilst MVFC will have finals and then the ACL. đŸ™‚

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