Was the Australian conference weakest?

By Rusty / Roar Guru

With the resolution of the pool stages of the Super Rugby season for 2011, I thought it an apt moment to review one of the contentious issues this year.

I don’t have an entire lifetime to analyse refereeing, judiciaries, KPIs or playpower. So, I went for the next in line.

That’s the one that’s raised a fair amount of comment and ire around the relative weaknesses and intensity of each conference.

Specifically that the Australian conference is the weakest and that the derby matches have provided an unfair advantage to its finals aspirants. So in schoolboy fashion I decided to do some statistical analysis.

Analysis – Brief

The idea is to get figures around the cannibalising of points from “weaker’ teams in each conference by the leading teams within the same conference and those from other conferences.

Key figures in the weighting will therefore be point difference (PD) and points from matchups between the leaders and numbers across conferences.

The larger the PD the more lopsided the victories. Points gained then gives us an indication of ranking gains independent of landslide victories.

First step: Identify the leading teams. Fortunately due to each conference supplying two teams not only is it truly representative but also balanced from a statistical point of view:

Leaders:

Blues – New Zealand
Sharks – South Africa
Crusaders – New Zealand
Reds – Australia
Stormers – South Africa
Tahs – Australia

The rest then make up the numbers.

Numbers:

Brumbies – Australia
Bulls – South Africa
Cheetahs – South Africa
Chiefs – New Zealand
Force- Australia
Highlanders – New Zealand
Hurricanes – New Zealand
Lions – South Africa
Rebels – Australia

From here on the math is pretty simple:

1. Sum the for and against for each “numbers” team the leader team has played in each conference to derive an overall PD against the weaker teams split out by conf.

2. Sum the points for the above match to put table ranking into the equation

Contender Analysis by Conference:

Conf

Team

Data

NZ

OZ

SA

Grand
Total

Average
Points

Blues

Average
of PD

14

8.5

8

10.17

Sum
of Games

6

2

2

10

Sum
of Table

22

7

10

39

3.9

Crusaders

Average
of PD

9

27

7

14.33

Sum
of Games

6

2

2

10

Sum
of Table

20

10

4

34

3.4

Reds

Average
of PD

3

11.17

15.67

9.94

Sum
of Games

2

6

3

11

Sum
of Table

5

22

14

41

3.73

Sharks

Average
of PD

5

15.67

6.33

9

Sum
of Games

2

3

6

11

Sum
of Table

6

15

19

40

3.64

Stormers

Average
of PD

2.5

28.33

6.67

12.5

Sum
of Games

2

3

6

11

Sum
of Table

5

14

22

41

3.73

Tahs

Average
of PD

16.5

22.67

-3

12.06

Sum
of Games

2

6

3

11

Sum
of Table

9

27

6

42

3.82

Total
Average of PD

8.33

18.89

6.78

11.33

Total
Sum of Games

20

22

22

64

Total
Sum of Table

67

95

75

237

Average
Conf Points

3.35

4.32

3.41

Key Analysis Notes:
• The Australian conference has resulted in the largest mismatches with the average PD between the leadings teams across all conferences and weaker teams in this conference at 18.89, followed by New Zealand 8.33 and South Africa 6.78 respectfully.

• The Australian conference has also provide the most points to the leaders from each conference with 95 at an average of 4.05 per game, followed by SA 75 at 3.41 and New Zealand 67 at 3.35

• The Reds and Blues are the only teams with higher average PDs against other conferences. SA and New Zealand respectfully.

• The PD flat track bullies in order are Saders, Stormers, Waratahs, Blues, Reds and Sharks.

• The bonus point (BP) flat track bullies per average game are Blues, Waratahs, Reds/Stormers, Sharks and Crusaders. Interesting shift here showing that teams who may run up big scores aren’t getting the maximum and some that get the maximum aren’t that far ahead of their opponents.

• Blues, Crusaders and Waratahs have struggled most against weaker SA sides which is backed up the PD ratio

• Reds, Sharks and Stormers have struggled most against the weaker New Zealand sides.

• Through the imbalance of conference scheduling system the Blues and Saders have played one fewer games against weaker teams than the other contenders.

• The teams most to benefit from playing weaker conference teams Waratahs, Reds/Stormers, Sharks, Blues and Crusaders. I suspect the latter two miss out a little due to playing one game less.

• Intra conference BP average Australia: Waratahs 4.5, Reds 3.67.
• Intra conference BP average New Zealand: Blues 3.67, Crusaders 3.33
• Intra conference BP average South Africa: Stormers 3.67, Sharks 3.17
• Total PD for each conference: Australia -229, New Zealand 100, South Africa 129

Final word:
In summation its pretty clear that the contenders in each conference have severely plundered table points from the Australian conference and in that sense it has been the weakest for opposition with the most lopsided results.

The question is, has this advantaged the Waratahs and Reds? Looking at the points gained and you would say yes.

The median for the Australian contenders is 24.5 points gained versus their counterparts in New Zealand 21 and South Africa 20.5 but its not that clear cut.

The biggest winner from the derby system is not the table leading Reds who accumulated an overall median 22 but the Waratahs who flambéed their weaker opponents for a massive 27 point haul.

It’s the Reds ability to gain points inter conference specifically against SA opponents that has been their strong point.

So with the rest of the teams bar the Sharks (lowest ranked finalist) and ‘Saders (drawn game) well in the median it would show that the matches may be closer in the other conferences but the leaders are gaining equal amounts of points.

The Crowd Says:

2011-06-26T11:10:24+00:00

Steve

Guest


But for a dropped goal here a refs call there, an intercept try food poisoning blah blah.. The AB's would have won 4 world cups. Trust me as an ABs supporter what could have been counts for squat.

2011-06-26T10:43:36+00:00

Steve

Guest


Now all 3 countries have the sames number of teams the countries Populations become an easy comparison. NZ 4 Mill Aus 22 Mill SA 50 Mill So NZ have the best crowds based on Population and if they had same the Population of SA would have average crowds of 120,000 people. This is all BS of course but NZ do pretty well considering.

2011-06-24T03:12:29+00:00

sittingbison

Guest


Lies, damn lies and...careful with stats guys. The Force beat the Bulls, drew with the Blues (who got lucky), pushed Crusaders until last 10 in high scoring thriller, were in front of Reds for both games until last minute, were beating Tards until last few minutes (who only got a sniff anyway with scoring a try after ball bounced off post straight into Cross' arms). The only debacle against a top six team was first game against Tards. They also beat Lions and Highlanders from other conferences. I think they were in front at the 70 minute mark of 9 games? Not bad for a basket case, and that figure alsobeing a statistical anomaly. A scrape of paint here, a woeful whistle there and suddenly the Reds are 3rd overall, the Tards miss the cut, and the Force are a eighth.

2011-06-24T01:14:42+00:00

Damo

Guest


Johnno, hang the gloves up mate. This thread was not Aussie bashing. If you had carefully read Rusty's points you would see that he is not calling OZ the 'weakest conference'. But I am not going to repeat what he has explained much better. Sometimes when you think you've got something 'important' to say it's best not to till you've read the article.

2011-06-23T19:52:01+00:00

Lee

Guest


So you are ignoring the objective analysis above, and passing your subejctive one off as fact...and yelling whilst doing it... I really hope you are having a laugh.

2011-06-23T18:09:00+00:00

sittingbison

Guest


Complete rubbish

2011-06-23T09:37:06+00:00

Johnno

Guest


ALL CONFERENCES WERE THE EQUAL INTENSITY THE SAME IN MY OPINION: AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY. Aust: REDS, TAHS, FORCE, 3 are decent teams:: REBELS TOUHGH FOR EVERY TEAM IN SUPER 15 IN Melbourne. BRUMBIES A rabble but still a nasty game every now and then for the other aussy teams. NZ: BLUES, CRUSADERS, 2 top teams, Highlanders(like force lost there way a bit and cooed easily be in finals), Chiefs, hurricanes both teams a mess for most matches this season. SOUTH AFRICA BULLS, SHARKS, STORMERS: ALL top quality teams(even though bulls didn't get there act together to half way still top team) CHEETAHS (Like the FORCE AND HIGHLANDERS good in patch but had shocking injury toll, and a bit more confidence and experience and luck could of made finals but not win it). LIONS big imporovers, but still a lot of work to be done and in reality no better than CHIEFS OR HURRICANES RESULTS AND Standard wise. LOCAL DERBIES ALL EQUALLY AS TOUGH FOR ALL CONFERENCES. SO IN REALTY ALL COUNTRY GGROUPS/CONFERENCES VERY EVEN, IT IS A TOTAL MYTH IN MY OPINION TO SAY AUST CONFERECNES TO EASY AND EAISER THAN NZ AND SOUTH AFRICA. JUST NZ AND SOUTH AFRICA WHINGENNG TO GET A FAVOURABLE DRAW NEXT YEAR OR TRYING TO MANIPULATE NEXT SEASONS REGULAR SEASON FIXTURES IN THERE FAOVUR TRAVEL WISE ETC IN MY OPINION, AND TO MAYBE GET MORE MONEY IN PAY TV DEALS. So yes when thought about logically TOTAL NONSENSE IN MY OPINION, STOP MANIPULATING SANZAR SOUTH AFRICA AND NZ, FOR YOUR OWN AGENDA..

AUTHOR

2011-06-23T09:00:37+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


Im a Stormers fan myself although its a long time since I went to a game at Newlands. Also been collecting crowd stats for somewhile and the Stormers are the best supported provincial side in super rugby if not the world

2011-06-23T07:25:08+00:00

Riaan

Guest


Thanks Rusty, Ive gone and watch a couple Stormers home games at Newlands (4). And It always seemed to be full to its capacity. Maybe tickets are cheaper? I dont know, Il have to ask dad.

AUTHOR

2011-06-23T06:50:35+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


NZ figures wont be helped by Saders using smaller stadia either

AUTHOR

2011-06-23T06:48:35+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


From information I have and I will compare against my 2010 article when hopefully the unions get back to me. Currnet numbers are as follows. NZ average 10336 (missing 8 games) OZ average 19372 SA average 21508 (missing 14 games)

2011-06-23T06:36:54+00:00

Keith

Guest


Rusty, can you do my tax return?

2011-06-23T06:18:10+00:00

warrenexpatinnz

Guest


I cannot do justice to your piece Rusty as need to read it again. I am with Riaan, and thanks for having a crack Rusty, on the average crowd numbers. From what I hear SA's are constant, Aussie is up across crowd and pay for view numbers whereas NZ is down in both. NZ's drops could be based around hosting the RWC and lack of disposable income but it still will be troubling the powers that be at the NZRU as come the loss it will rack up for RWC 2011 it can ill afford anymore six figure bailouts for provinces.

AUTHOR

2011-06-23T06:03:02+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


I think you will be surprised Brett - I think the overall bums on seats is probably up but I think the averages will be down due to the overall saturation

AUTHOR

2011-06-23T06:02:01+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


I have tried but several stadia dont list there crowds and dont respond to requests for the information (Cheetahs, Chiefs, Blues - I am looking at you)

2011-06-23T05:59:40+00:00

Brett McKay

Guest


it'd be South Africa by some margin, I'd imagine, Riaan. 3 teams in the top 7, all playing out of 40-50K stadia...

2011-06-23T05:51:27+00:00

Riaan

Guest


How about anylising on which conference had the most crowds this year. Rusty? anyone?

2011-06-23T04:40:30+00:00

School Boy

Guest


Maybe he can coach the Highlanders. After the comedy that Jamie Joseph sprouted this year, i'm sure they could do with a coach.

2011-06-23T03:38:32+00:00

allblackfan

Guest


Ever thought about a career in standup comedy, Uncle Bob?? You're a very funny person!!

2011-06-23T02:55:17+00:00

Uncle Bob

Guest


New Zealand was the weakest conference. Seriously you wouldn't cross the street to watch their teams in action. Any wonder the All Blacks have done nothing in the professional era.

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