The future of online poker: life after Full Tilt

By Matt Bungard / Roar Guru

There’s only been a few times in my life where something completely remote to my loved ones and surroundings has left me extremely disappointed. To name a couple; Futurama being cancelled, the Rabbitohs being kicked out of the NRL and when my favourite online poker site ceased to exist.

Halfway through the last week of both June and the 2010-11 Financial Year, Full Tilt Poker (FTP) closed its doors – probably for good.

I appreciate that it seems somewhat frivolous in mourning the demise of what was ultimately just another online poker website, but bear with me.

Since midway through 2009, I’ve been a regular user on FTP.

By no means a high roller, but there were times when winning a small amount of money came at just the perfect time for me; If I wasn’t getting enough hours at work, or I had to splash some money out on an out of the ordinary cost (Football registration fees, a new Xbox…the important things), I could usually rely on poker to supplement my income, at least a little bit.

Through the past two and a half years I made a tidy profit of around a few thousand.

Not enough to retire on but hey, a broke uni student can use all the help they can get.

Particularly in the summer months when there was no university, I found little greater pleasure than getting up on Monday/Tuesday mornings, going for a run and then coming home to watch the NFL and play poker.

Of course, I had a life outside of my computer but typically, I’d schedule my social life around these two mornings because a) I love the NFL and b) I loved Full Tilt Poker.

It wasn’t the first online poker website I’d sampled and thanks to the U.S Attorney General, it won’t be the last. But for whatever reason, FTP was my drink of choice in the poker world.

I’m not sure if it was the glitzy display and interface, the array of my favourite players that played exclusively on FTP (Tom Dwan, Phil Ivey and Gus Hansen to name a few) or the fact that I had the option to choose a cute little turtle as my online avatar when I played.

My girlfriend seemed to love the feature that you could change its little face depending on your mood (…so did I).

Whatever the reason, with Full Tilt out of the equation I’ll either have to return to pastures less-greener at PokerStars, or sample something new and hope it takes my interest.

For the non-poker savvy reading this, you could compare Stars and Tilt to the Old Firm in the SPL. You either choose Celtic or Rangers, that’s it.

I could go out and try PartyPoker (Hearts) or Cake (Motherwell) but I can guarantee the lack of tournaments and big money prize pools in comparison to the two big boys would leave me and the hundreds of thousands of other FTP users looking for something different in no time.

But enough about me – I was fortunate enough to not get caught in the eye of the storm which currently sees thousands of players unable to access the money they still had in their Full Tilt accounts.

One of my friends worked hard enough to grind his bankroll up from $10 to $500…which he now can’t get to because the site has been shut down.

You would like to think that there’s a solution around the corner, and that all the players that have been affected will be able to claim the money that is rightfully theirs.

There are plenty of people who look to online poker as their primary or only source of income. If their account remains frozen out they’ll be without a livelihood for an indefinite amount of time.

A prime example is Phil Ivey, who is the most popular and probably best poker player in the world. He has over $5Million USD tied up in his account which he can’t access.

He, along with dozens of other pros, is in the process of filing a class-action suit against the owners of FTP.

In addition, Ivey boycotted this year’s World Series of Poker as a result. Surely a situation that nobody ever saw coming.

There is no denying the amount of luck involved in poker is significant. Of course, you can play a hand perfectly and lose. You can play a hand downright horribly and win.

That’s the nature of the beast – but this doesn’t put poker in the same category as slot machines, roulette or any other table game. There is a skill factor to poker that cannot be understated.

That’s the reason that professional poker players exist, but professional roulette players don’t. And despite what your average problem gambler or pensioner at the local RSL will tell you, professional poker machine players are also a non-entity.

Poker pro Mike Matusow once sited Ivey as evidence that poker is a game of skill. A man who has won 8 World Series of Poker Bracelets (Usually outlasting fields of hundreds or thousands of players) as well as making it into the top 25 at the WSOP Main Event four times in the last nine years. The size of the playing field in each of those tournaments? 631 in 2002, 839 in 2003, 5,619 in 2005 and 6,494 in 2009.

All of this at the age of 35. Such feats cannot be put down to sheer luck (if you want the other side of the coin, Google an online player who plays under the name ‘tomastomast’)

But who’s to blame for all of this? The short answer is the United States government, who have made online poker a target for all of their ire in the past few months.

Online gambling is illegal in the United States and despite it being impossible to argue that poker is a game of skill, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Preet Bharara. has taken it upon himself to be the white knight against the evil empire of online gaming.

For whatever reason, Bharara, a man who had been commended in the past for his handlings of an array of white collar crimes in the United States, turned his attention to the poker world.

Known as “Black Friday” to poker players, the case of United States v. Scheinberg was officially launched on the 15th of April, 2011. Drawing upon an archaic anti-gaming statute in New York State Law, PokerStars and Full Tilt were both closed down temporarily (along with other websites of less significance).

Both were later reopened but for many, the writing was on the wall as players nervously began to withdraw their hard-earned bankrolls.

Last week, a gambling commission in Britain’s Channel Islands visited the offices of Pocket Kings Ltd.; the Dublin based software developers for Full Tilt, and made it clear that the gaming license for FTP had been revoked for the time being.

All software support, marketing and maintenance for the site were revoked, and as a result, Full Tilt Poker ceases to exist at this point in time.

So yesterday evening when I sat down and played PokerStars for the first time in three years, and dealt with an unfriendly and cluttered interface, a less responsive table setup and an overall product that just felt sloppy and half-baked, all I and thousands of others, can do, is hope that when an appeal on behalf of FTP to regain its gaming license takes place on July 26, that all parties involved can reach an amicable solution.

The Crowd Says:

2011-07-13T20:48:14+00:00

rogers

Guest


there must be thousands of play chip players out there looking for a site to play at may not find one as good as ftp but wud be a passtime

2011-07-08T14:20:22+00:00

bojan

Guest


look at this movie. all will get clear to the world of poker. even online. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2TVaa8ScM&feature=related

2011-07-06T13:25:29+00:00

Sam

Guest


Hey does anyone know when One HD will be telecasting any poker action? I remember watching it a couple years back but nothing since. Is it still on?

2011-07-06T01:57:55+00:00

jack

Guest


The loss of FTP is a sad and unfortunate result of doj siezing U.S. bank accounts on April 15 and FTP management not able to deal with the situation from thier own deep pockets. If any one expresses anger ay FTP it is partially mis0placed since the whole mess was precipitated by the doj actions to walk quietly and use a big stick. From the point of view of this Canadian my american cousins aren't as free as the "Star Spangled Banner" implies. The hard part for me is that the U.S. doj gets to liable all non-U.S. players without consequence. Maybe there is a bright young legal mind that could set things straight for us weak huddled masses.

2011-07-05T20:44:26+00:00

desmond

Guest


iI have played ftp for a couple of years now after trying sites like stars and unparty poker, Full tilt without a doubt is the king of site's its shutdown has left a big hole in my daily routine with 90 player sit and goes a particular favourite, I can only hope the issues at ftp are sorted sooner rather than later . I miss that final table blue background you no the $$$$$$$$$ are on there way,or not in this case!!! hurry back ftp we miss you

2011-07-05T17:08:49+00:00

matt0216

Roar Rookie


Full tilt has been a mess since the u.s shutdown. Pokerstars handled everything better since they were set up the right way. Full tilt should have known what could have happened and they should have took precautions in case it ever did. But they didn't and now they are screwed just like all the players they screwed over the last few months. Poker stars will now have very little competition. A site like carbon http://bit.ly/CARBONP0KER might take some traffic, but pokerstars is the place where most will play now.

AUTHOR

2011-07-05T16:32:33+00:00

Matt Bungard

Roar Guru


Ah. I knew Ivey had filed a suit by himself but I thought he and some of the other top guys were also associated with the class action suit - my mistake...apologies.

2011-07-05T12:31:51+00:00

Barry

Guest


I'm fairly sure the writer is Australian :)

2011-07-05T11:02:43+00:00

Captain Kickass

Guest


Play poker. Don't have an account. Totally sympathise with your loss. Cracker of a read - Cheers :)

2011-07-05T10:59:51+00:00

Jarryd

Guest


I am going crazy without FT, I have a small bankroll tied up there, not much to worry about, but I deposited on Stars the day Tilt went down, and I have found it most disappointing, I really hope that Tilt comes back, even if it is just the software.There were reports very soon after they got their licence suspended, that they were contemplating reopening with a permit from Kahnawake. In fact, if you run a trace route to their web site server it is now located in Kahnawake. Would you still play Full tilt without the Alderney Licence? Personally, I don't think any of those licences mean a thing, and as long as I get my money when I ask for a withdrawal I'm happy with a site. Turns out though in FT's case, the regulators should have been looking a lot closer, if they are going to bother to licence it, they should actually do SOME auditing. The AGC freeze only came because of DoJ investigations.

2011-07-05T10:30:59+00:00

stuartjdavidson

Guest


Good post I also have a few thou' tied up at FT and was disappointed to see its license temporarily suspended. My line of thinking: I still believe the second investment through the unknown European group is finalised, FTP will be operating again and I think this will be earlier then the AGC hearing on 26th July. Investment on the level reported will repay their customers and allow them to regain their license and to a degree, settle their disputes with US Gov (which is probably a big clause in the investment agreement). There will be backlashes, but its a short term solution for them to get back up and running.

2011-07-05T10:07:38+00:00

randomCitizen

Guest


This is a really well written article, and does a great job of describing how FTPs disappearance feels for a recreational player (which I am also). However, there's a major error. You say Phil Ivey and other pros are in the process of filing a class-action suit against the owners of FTP. This isn't correct. Phil had a suit of his own (no other pros), but he's dropped it now that FTP has found investment. There is still a civil class-action suit against FTP, but it's filed by FTP players, not pros.

2011-07-05T09:40:05+00:00

nickthegun

Guest


Great article bro... Till this day i still cannot see what draws so many people to Pokerstars... Its the little things that just make it so shit. -the disorganised tournament selection screen -the fold button when you can just check -the dull looking playing screen and big ugly buttons -the $ sign next to my TOURNAMENT chips But its more the fact that I was a 90 man specialist on full tilt that hurts so much... and that I put a lot of time and effort into getting comfortable 20 tabling those things.. knowing the sounds.. where to have my mouse on the screen for the next table to pop up.. knowing alot of the players.. and losing all my player notes...that awesome feeling of seeing the background turn blue and know you are close... I can only have faith that it will be back soon.. Give the US government their 42.3billion in tax revenue a year... just let me play at tilt.... nickthegun

2011-07-05T09:02:32+00:00

Dylan Manning

Guest


Bro, you are right on the money FTP was clean,easy and simple these other rooms are clunky unorganized.. and lack a panda avatar that i hold so dear to my heart :( RIP FTP you WILL be sorely missed -Dylan

2011-07-05T06:53:59+00:00

joe

Guest


i made a withdrawal of $7900 via bank transfer on the 28th of june and it was approved.is there any chance of me receiving my money.im based in australia.

2011-07-05T06:52:35+00:00

jay

Guest


What are you talking about bro? NFL football isnt in the summer

2011-07-05T06:02:17+00:00

Jon

Guest


This is a real shame. I liked the FTP site by far more than any other site. And BTW, I only played play money purely for enetertainment.... I wonder if I could claim my 14 Mio play chips and get them transferred to another site??? ;) I have tried poker Stars already, and do not like how that sitr works..

AUTHOR

2011-07-05T05:55:38+00:00

Matt Bungard

Roar Guru


Impossible in that there will always be people that look down on poker as 'gambling' no matter how clear it is that there's skill involved. What's more, the element of luck in poker is not just 'short term'. Yes, a good player will win over an extended period of time but it is very possible for even a top pro to run below expected value for months at a time to the point that it cripples them. Not to mention the other side of the coin where a bad player can get lucky for a few days and win more money than they ever though possible - see Darvin Moon, Jamie Gold or Jerry Yang. And there's not just one case where poker was ruled a game of skill, there's been quite a few. The problem is that there's also been times where the reverse has occured...or the government in question won't even entertain the notion (Like what's happening right now in America, perhaps?) Then again why am I wasting my time talking to someone that called me a 'noob' :/

2011-07-05T05:49:50+00:00

Black 9s

Guest


I had $100s in my Full Tilt account. I play Limit and this was one of the few sites where there were almost always $3-$6 games available. The other players, particularly when the USA players were around, were terrible. Playing premium hands was just like printing money. A reraise by one of these losers on 4th street was usually a sure sign they had nothing - or were still chasing a gut straight or hoping that there A- crap could beat my set or KK. I have played games with 4 cold callers and had the betting capped each round - just massive pots and in the end my KK has been up against A-crap x3 and 33. Such a shame. I hope I get my money.

2011-07-05T05:37:17+00:00

Cameron

Guest


Wow, you are a bit of a Poker noob aren't you? and "and despite it being impossible to argue that poker is a game of skill" directly contradicts what you say in the previous paragraphs. FYI there has already been a case years ago when it was successfully argued in court that Poker is a game of skill. Of course there is an short term element of luck. But as a time period increases the effects of luck decrease to almost negligible.

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