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    So, after a few days in which divisive spot fires popped up all over the Australian football scene, it was nice of Sydney FC and Perth Glory to come together last night and play out one of the drabbest games of the season.

    Finally the football community was united, albeit in frustrated boredom.

    Sydney and Perth’s 1-1 draw came as a calming antidote to the weekend’s main altercations.

    First a bare-chested Besart Berisha asked Pascal Boschaart to meet him in the car park in a stoush that turned into a rather depressing online debate.

    The following day was witness to what can only be described as an ill-conceived clash between high profile pundits Robbie Slater and Craig Foster that also burned its way through the Internet.

    But amongst all the debate and acrimony this week there was one article on The Roar that got me thinking – my colleague Vince Rugari’s endorsement of Fox Sports’ initiative to mike up Gold Coast United coach Miron Bleiberg during their home match with Wellington Phoenix on Sunday.

    “The Big Bash League is going the extra mile, and that’s why it was good to listen to football playing catch-up with Bleiberg’s role in Sunday’s broadcast,” wrote Rugari.

    “Australian football has to do things differently.”

    My former editor at Football+, Tony Harper, highlighted the other side of this debate in the Sydney Sun Herald on the weekend when discussing Fox’s coverage of the Big Bash League.

    “If the battle is important, the combatants need their time and space to fume, grieve and reflect on what it all means for them,” he wrote.

    “You wouldn’t expect a formula one driver to be fully focused if miked-up to chat to the commentators.”

    Harper went on to conclude that, “I want rage with my sport but, in the quest for ”insight”, with its microphones and dressing-room cameras, the players aren’t allowed to be themselves. In sport, less can be much more.”

    Finding that perfect spot between offering all-access insight and allowing a sporting contest the space to thrive in our imaginations is a delicate balance.

    It’s also a decision for far more capable people than me.

    There is one inescapable truth though – no matter what initiative a host broadcaster implements, the final product will depend on the raw materials placed in from of them.

    Good characters like Bleiberg are fine, big opinions like Slater’s make headlines, but it’s all just a side-show to the real game.

    The only way football will continue to make significant moves forward is with the consistent employment of coaches of the highest technical level who are supported by an informed football department.

    When this becomes the norm, it won’t matter whether Gold Coast United’s coach allows a microphone to be pinned to his shirt.

    That’s the key point that threatened to be overwhelmed by the debate on the nationality of a coach this week, because no amount of lapel microphones would have made yesterday evening’s snore fest any more entertaining.

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    • January 19th 2012 @ 9:01am
      striker said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:01am | ! Report

      The A-League games this year have been great games, the A-League is heading in the right direction no need to change like the big bash.

      • January 19th 2012 @ 9:54am
        JAJI said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:54am | ! Report

        100% agree – one bad game amongst weeks and weeks of good games and enter Davidde with his piece….

    • January 19th 2012 @ 9:08am
      TomC said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:08am | ! Report

      I watched the exciting Heart-Mariners game last night, so I have no idea what Davidde is talking about.

      Certainly from what I’ve seen season 2011-12 has been the most entertaining yet.

      • January 19th 2012 @ 9:40am
        Kasey said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:40am | ! Report

        The MHT v CCM game was a cracker IMO. End to end football and very exciting to watch although I thought it ws going to end 0-0(one of those you know you’re a fan if you can see the beauty in it types) until the Mariners popped up in the final minutes to put the heart to the sword. I would be heartbroken(sorry) if I were a Red & White fan having sen my team play the Mariners off the park denied by someexcellent goal keeping from Matt Ryan only to cough up the 3 points at the death:( MHT will consider that 3 points dropped for sure. IMO despite the loss of a player like Marcos Flores, the overall level has again risen this year, the teams are playing better team football, with alternating high pressure and counter attack periods interspersed with some nice posession play. Even allowing for Rini Coolen’s ‘football’ I’ve enjoye this season of watching HAL football. On a side note it is interesting to me hat MHT seem to have developed a core audience of 5-7k. midweek is a great result for them and shows that despite claims that MHT canibalized MVCs support, a market for a 2nd team did and does exist in Melbourne. Well done Heart for being a team from Melbourne that neutrals can watch without getting enraged:)

        • January 19th 2012 @ 9:59am
          TomC said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:59am | ! Report

          I’m not a Heart fan, but I was disappointed to see the Mariners win. The Heart certainly deserved the points on general play.

        • January 19th 2012 @ 12:58pm
          Axelv said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:58pm | ! Report

          Really? Watching Victory play gets all neutrals enraged?

          • January 19th 2012 @ 1:07pm
            Kasey said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:07pm | ! Report

            Axelv, I would estimate that MVC are perhaps the most hated football team in the league.I’m willing to listen to a wel constructed argument puting forward another candidate, but I hoestly think If MVC played AlQaida, then most footballing neutrals in this country wuold be hoping to see the late Osama’s mob triuph:)
            I’m still surprise the MVC fans haven’t taken to singing the old Millwall classic “No-one likes us, we don’t care!”

            • January 19th 2012 @ 1:43pm
              Axelv said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:43pm | ! Report

              A neutral would be going for neither team.

              If someone hates Melbourne Victory, they’re no longer neutral.

              Many neutrals that I know enjoy seeing Melbourne Victory play.

              I’m quite certain that if you ask people from Perth, Newcastle, Central Coast, Brisbane, Wellington and Gold Coast, and you ask what their most hated team is, I doubt it’s going to be Melbourne Victory.

              If you ask Sydney, Adelaide or Melbourne Heart, then that’s another story 😉

              • January 19th 2012 @ 2:05pm
                Roarchild said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:05pm | ! Report

                I would be surprised if Melbourne victory aren’t the 2nd most hated team.
                That’s just the nature of being well supported. The more people like you the mre people hate you, Barca and Brazil are some of the few that break that trend.

                But hate is a pretty strong word when it comes to the A league, apart from those who sit in the official supporters area I don’t feel there is a lot of hate out there for the other teams.

                I don’t really like MV but there games are just a magnet for drama. I probably “like” the Mariners and Jets more but more often gravitate towards watching MV play instead.

    • January 19th 2012 @ 9:14am
      Al said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:14am | ! Report

      Heart-Mariners game was a really interesting tactical battle I thought.

      • January 19th 2012 @ 12:59pm
        gawa said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:59pm | ! Report

        Not only was it a great tactical battle, it was as good a game technically as I have watched in seven years of the A League.
        Although as a Brisbane fan I was gutted to see CCM grab that late winner, the match was simply a great advert for our league. We now have at least three teams not only trying but actually producing some top notch football.

    • January 19th 2012 @ 9:17am
      Fivehole said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:17am | ! Report

      I dont know what all the fuss about bleiberg being miked up is. He is a coach, not a player. If it was a player miked up, that would be a big deal in a non stop sport like football (unlike cricket)

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      January 19th 2012 @ 9:22am
      The Cattery said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:22am | ! Report

      It’s probably unfair to characterise a whole season by one drab game, and even then, I was fortunate enough to sit down at around the 85th min, to start cranking up the live blog for the following game, just in time to witness the corner with the equalising goal!

      As i posted on the thread late last night, the early game was a victim of a number of extraneous circumstances, such as having been postponed to an unfavourable time slot, and having been part of the regional round of games to begin with, the game really never got off on the right foot.

      I can tell you I have been very lucky with the games I have ended up doing live blogs on, all been pretty good (in the sense that there has been plenty to write about minute by minute, which is a pretty good guage of whether it contains interest) – of course most of the game have been Victory and Heart games – never a dull moment with them!

      • January 19th 2012 @ 9:57am
        Bondy said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:57am | ! Report

        Those live blogs you do ” appreciated ” you may have noticed most would come out of AAMI park where you mostly always get a good game .
        They generally are better matches in quality compared to Etihad i would suggest .

    • January 19th 2012 @ 9:27am
      King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:27am | ! Report

      from an outsider’s perspective, it looks like crowds are struggling.

      • January 19th 2012 @ 9:51am
        striker said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:51am | ! Report

        King across the board crowds have been up with 80 per cent with most clubs, as for these catch up games during a working week starting at 5.30 even 5500k is a good crowd considering most people are back at work and would have no chance to get to the game.

        • January 19th 2012 @ 11:42am
          King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:42am | ! Report

          that is stopping people getting out to the BBL. But i agree. Australians generally dont do mid-week sport, and it is hard to draw crowds to such games.

        • January 19th 2012 @ 1:45pm
          Axelv said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:45pm | ! Report

          Why are all these silly people feeding the troll? /facepalm

      • January 19th 2012 @ 9:52am
        JAJI said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:52am | ! Report

        They are up big time from previous year….across most if not all clubs……

        Not sure if the Waratahs are going to have that same trend this year King

        • January 19th 2012 @ 11:45am
          King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:45am | ! Report

          thanks to getting rid of Nth QLD……. take hout the Melb Vic and crowds are very underwhelming.

          The Tahs – consdiering last year was the tahs lowest averages for a long time, they have the potential to real increase their crowds in the % sense. also with a couypel of days time games, and better oppostion (such as the big drawing Crusaders) i expect to see the Tahs crowds re-gain wht they once were. at the end of the day the Tahs will have an average crowd 3 times that of Sydney FC. i know who i would rather be!

          • January 19th 2012 @ 12:01pm
            Kasey said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

            KoG, any statistician worth his/her salt would discount both outliersfrom a series of numbers to reduce the effect they had on the mean. This would involve removing both the top and bottom average attendance numbers However despite your negative viewpoint, the crowds for this season are up 30%+ on last year(including a small but welcome increase for much malignd GCU) . On top of that, with 6 of 10 teams averaging above 10k, the league has a much wider spread of good attendances and is not solely reliant upon one team to skew the figures good or bad.
            Season to date after 83 matches

            Average per game 11,184

            Aggregate attendance 928,289 – that is on track for yet another season of 1million plus attendees
            (6 of 7 HAL seasons have hit this mark) A great result for a new league in a crowded market place with none of the free(contra) media factored towards other sports like Cricket or footy.

            After 2 years of declining attendance, this is all a welcome boost & is good news for the FFA and football fans as discussions begin for a new Media rights deal. The facts speak for themselves, football is a growing game. Given the high water hit by Rugby in the post RWC2003 Australia, can you really say the same thing for the 15 man game? I know who I’d rather be, growth and potential for yet more growth bn always looks better to sponsors than stagnation or contraction.

            • January 19th 2012 @ 12:13pm
              King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:13pm | ! Report

              iwould hardly say the QLD Reds are suffering stagnation or contraction. Average crowd = 30K +. Beat the broncos and more then double the Roar. Even though the Rpar had an incredible unbeaten run, they still could not get crowds that were even half of what the Reds pulled in.

              Rugby is expereicning an unprecedented resurgence. you have to be blind or ignorant not to see it.

              • January 20th 2012 @ 10:08am
                super G said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:08am | ! Report

                And how many home matches do the Super 15 sides play ? I’d like to see your crowds in a home and away domestic rugby competition spread over 27 weeks. Oh wait…that’s already been tried. What happened with that comp? The term still birth comes to mind.

          • January 19th 2012 @ 12:29pm
            JAJI said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:29pm | ! Report

            The wheels have been falling off the Tahs crowds for a fair few years. Some cold hard facts for the King:

            *Take out the one “blockbuster” a year at Homebush (where they managed to fill 35% of the stadium when they play the Reds or the Brumbies despite unprecedented promotion) the Tahs crowds at the SFS have trickled down gradually to the point where the Sydney FC 16,000 crowd in December is probably not too far off the Tahs average at the SFS last year

            * This despite the Tahs being around for decades longer than Sydney FC (going before the advent of Super 12 the Waratah brand has been around for ever

            * The Tahs play in arguably the strongest regional comp in the world. The A League it can be argued would not be in the top 40 leagues in the world. Yet despite this gap the crowds are quite close – looks to me the attraction of watching front line Wallabies at the SFS each week hasnt exactly got the locals buzzing

            * Take out ALL Black games at Homebush (which is the equivalent of the Socceroos playing Spain or Brazil full strength each year – and even with the ALL blacks there are 20,000 NZ supporters in the ground which hasnt been sold out the last few times) Wallabies crowds at Homebush have been underwhelming to the point where Socceroos v Uzbekistan (a country most Australians couldnt find on the map) in 2009 drew 20,000 more than Australia v England rugby in 2010. The Samoa game last year (for a top 10 opponent) was very poor crowd wise

            Rugby had its mainstream chance in November and blew it. Channel Nine couldnt even be brought to show the Australia Ireland game live. That treatment would never ever happen to the Socceroos in a World Cup. Says alot about the 2 sports

            • January 19th 2012 @ 12:54pm
              King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

              My oh my. think this is my first encounter with you, but you surely take the award for biggest clown on the roar.

              Now for some facts.

              The Tahs play two games each year at homebush. This is because Homebush pays the Tahs. Why shoudl those crowds not be considered? Are those games any different? i really dont understand your logic. Those games have drawn between 35K – 43K. The Stadium holds 82K. On my calculations that is between 43% and 52 % full. hardly the 35% you claim.

              The Tahs crowds have been down. i admit. they have rightfully been down. Play porring footy and people will turn on you. play like the reds and you will get 30K each week. Just because they are down, does not mean they cant come back.

              “Wallabies crowds at Homebush have been underwhelming to the point where Socceroos v Uzbekistan (a country most Australians couldnt find on the map) in 2009 drew 20,000 more than Australia v England rugby in 2010” – Lies. Sign of a weak arguement – just lie. The socceroos game drew 57K, whic is a good crowd. The Wallabies for the England match you referred to drew 54K from memory. let me confirm this when Wiki gets back up. either way it was not 20K less. Perhaps you are confusing the crowd the Wallabies drew to the Subiaco test v England? which drew 30K.

              “Yet despite this gap the crowds are quite close” – ummmm excuse me. The tahs averaged 20K (which was a terrible year for them). SFC aveeraged 10K? so being half of something now means your close? Do you work for Labor, because that is brilliant spin.

              “Take out ALL Black games at Homebush ” – why?

              “The Samoa game last year (for a top 10 opponent) was very poor crowd wise” – that game drew 30K people, most of them Childrewn. since when is that a bad crowd. show many how many soccerwho games in the last 5 years have drawn mroe then 30k…….

              “That treatment would never ever happen to the Socceroos in a World Cup” – umm doesnt that happen anytime Channel 9 tries to cover the soccer WC?

              BTW the highest rating sports program of last year was rugby. Soccer doenst rate. end of.

              You have just met the King. Nice destroying you. Any time you want to play i am happy to tear you a new one, just like i did now.

              • January 19th 2012 @ 1:16pm
                Dean said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:16pm | ! Report

                Which is the high-rating rugby program? You’re not talking about World Cup matches are you? How do rugby World Cup matches rate when they’re played between midnight-6:00 a.m.?

              • January 19th 2012 @ 1:44pm
                JAJI said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:44pm | ! Report

                Little boy you are with men now….

                Lesson One:

                Australia v Greece June 2006 92,000
                Australia v Bahrain October 2006 40,000
                Australia v Paraguay October 2006 50,000
                Australia v Uruguay June 2007 60,000
                Australia v Argentina September 2007 75,000
                Australia v Qatar February 2008 50,000
                Australia v Iraq June 2008 50,000
                Australia v China June 2008 70,000
                Australia v Uzbekistan April 2009 57,000
                Australia v Bahrain June 2009 40,000
                Australia v Japan June 2009 70,000
                Australia v Holland October 2009 40,000
                Australia v NZ June 2010 50,000

                Lesson Two:

                Do your research on the crowd between Australia and England 2010 June at Homebush – it aint 54,000

                Lesson Three:

                Germany v Brazil June 2002 on Channel Nine got 4 million viewers on a Sunday night

                Go you good thing!

              • January 19th 2012 @ 2:02pm
                King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:02pm | ! Report


                Do you care to comment on any other my other rebuttals? Or do you concede you were worng?

                provide links to your claim of 4M. the highest rating football program EVER was the rwc 2003 final between australia v england.

                The crowd was actually 48.3K. so less then 9K difference. not quite 20K like you claim. but once again you show your habit of doubling numbers.

                Thats KOGS – 2 clown – 0

              • January 19th 2012 @ 2:03pm
                j binnie said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

                King ot G – Strong words indeed. Just one question emerges from your offering,what are you comparing??? If your argument is to hold water you must try and compare “apples with apples”.
                You jump from the “TAHS” to the “REDS” to the ” WALLABIES, when to the best of my knowledge these teams play their “regular “football in INTERNATIONAL competitions set up by the ARU with the main aim of attracting fans to their games by upping “the product”. That is good marketing, no argument about that.
                Successful ???,only time will tell,for the truth is there are not enough teams of the same standard playing at international level to run a competition between them for a whole season and that could lead to stagnation of the idea unless a huge coaching program is funded in the “lesser” nations.

                You then go on to compare SFC crowds with those of the “TAHS”. Why? They, SFC, don’t play in an international competition,they play in a local comp where the top team in attendance figures is Melbourne Victory who have an average “home” gate this season of 23,000, over double your SFC figure which you gave as 10,000 when in fact their average is 13000.!!!!!
                In the HAL this season alone, in 83 matches that have been played, 44 of those games have surpassed your SFC figure of 10,000,and 6 of them have been over 20,000, with 2 bordering on 40,000, all in “local” games.

                Your final “gaffe” was the statement that rugby rated higher than “soccer”. Where was that? In NZ, SA& Australia, for you will never convince anyone that that happened in England,Wales,Scotland,Ireland,Italy, France, or Argentine where the other Rugby powerhouses come from. I think you should leave this discussion alone and go back to studying how statistics can be used to further knowledge in a calculated,organised manner. cheers jb.

              • January 19th 2012 @ 2:36pm
                King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:36pm | ! Report


                Why do i compare the tahs and SFC? Simple. They are both the only professional club in Sydney for their respective codes. They both play week in week out footy.

                So i cant? compare the Tahs to SFC because their is South Africa and New Zealand teams in the SR competition? But wait……. arent Wellington Phoenix from NZ?

                With the new structure of the SR season Australian teams now play as many local derbies as they do games against international competition.

                The 2003 RWC final was the most watched team sprting program within AUSTRALIA of ALL time. face. Fact the 2011 RWC semi final was one of the gighest rating sports programs of 2011.

                if you need to talk with someone about how it feels to be gorgonited, speak to JAJI. i have dealt with him a few times today already.

              • January 19th 2012 @ 9:54pm
                j binnie said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:54pm | ! Report

                King -You are at it again ,pulling things out of the air and comparing them with something totally different, it’s bordering on the ridiculous. Your attempt at “internationalizing” the HAL because Wellington,a city there,has a team playing in it is nothing short of pathetic.
                Then the biggest laugh of all.You quote figures of TV watchers watching the World Rugby Cup Final and state they are the biggest figures ever registered——– where? in Australia. Well I can add to that France and England also registered record figures (nb- on lone channels) but do they compare with the WORLD figures who watched Spain playing Holland in South Africa (a noted rugby country) in the Football WC Final and the answer sadly is- NO- for it is estimated 700 million watched that game.
                Add the TOTAL populations of England,NZ,SA, Australia, France, Italy, and Argentine (your powerhouse countries) and I doubt you would get anywhere near 700 million.
                Now don’t bother to answer this for your logic is totally beyond normal understanding. Go back to Webb’s game, another English pastime that has been thrust upon us, and enjoy,don’t waste time trying to prove the unprovable. Yours in sport. jb

          • January 19th 2012 @ 3:18pm
            Perplexor said | January 19th 2012 @ 3:18pm | ! Report

            who the hell are the Tahs and what have they got to do with the HAL ????

      • January 19th 2012 @ 9:59am
        Bondy said | January 19th 2012 @ 9:59am | ! Report

        King ,
        You should probably concentrate on the A.C.T . Brumbies , i hope it’s not a train wreck for them this year like last year .

        • January 19th 2012 @ 11:50am
          King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:50am | ! Report

          That “train wreck” still managed to have an average crowd greater then the Canberra Raiders and all but one HAL club. If the Brumbies are a train wreck, what are the GC?

          • January 19th 2012 @ 12:52pm
            CrossIT said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:52pm | ! Report

            An absolute train wreck.

            It’s an issue I do not know why is not brought up more because, quite frankly it’s a shambles. How a professional sports club in this day and age can only draw 2000 people to a game is hard to fatham, especially when my old schoolboys first XV can pull around the same to a Saturday game.

            Something has to give, its an issue that needs to be debated further, just because they arn’t struggling economically, doesn’t mean they arn’t dying a slow, painful, and ridiculous death.

            • January 19th 2012 @ 12:59pm
              King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:59pm | ! Report

              Ameatur rugby in England draw that many people on Saturday afternoon.

              2K is so bad, it makes me laugh.

              • January 19th 2012 @ 1:50pm
                JAJI said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:50pm | ! Report

                King its still more than the “National Rugby Championships” of 2007/2008 fame got per game

                Not going to mention that disaster of an experiment are you? They tried to get a National Comp ala the A League and “the Messiah” couldnt wait to shelve it quick enough

                Let alone Saturday Club Rugby which gets a few dogs, some old boys and a few hungry spectators keen to sample Beryl’s (sorry its Rugby so lets call her Bronwyn) sausage sandwiches

              • January 19th 2012 @ 2:05pm
                King of the Gorgonites said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:05pm | ! Report

                Ha you are justifying crowds of 2K.

                The ARC was gonig to be another level of rugby below Super Rugby. You want to compare, then lets compare SR with HAL. Guess who wins?

              • January 19th 2012 @ 2:55pm
                JohnL said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:55pm | ! Report

                Actually comparisons should be made like for like – for example:

                A-League – National Rugby Championship (National Championship)
                Asian Champions League – Super Rugby (International Representative teams)
                Asian Cup – Tri-Nations (International teams from an area of the world)
                World Cup – World Cup (International teams from all over the world)

              • January 19th 2012 @ 3:33pm
                JAJI said | January 19th 2012 @ 3:33pm | ! Report

                Little Boy

                Compare Shute Shield and the outstanding successful-lasted only one year Australian Rugby Championship to the A League more like it

                Super 15 Rugby I can watch the starting 15 from the World Cup winning side playing week in week out LIVE

                Cant do that in the A League my friend. Hence its foolish comparing Super 15 Rugby to A League – they are not a like for like product. One is international involving the best 3 countries in the world the other is a fledgling domestic comp only 6 years old

                Mind you the international one cant get on Free to Air either. Maybe the code needs to get more mungoes across to get some fanbase away from the North Shore of Sydney

              • January 20th 2012 @ 10:30am
                super G said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:30am | ! Report

                He’s gone all quiet now our Rugger Bugger…

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        January 19th 2012 @ 4:00pm
        mds1970 said | January 19th 2012 @ 4:00pm | ! Report

        It was classed as a “regional” game – meaning that it wasn’t officially either team’s home game, and neither team’s membership cards admitted to the game. Everyone had to buy a ticket for it – and 5:30pm on a weeknight at a ground 60kms out of town on congested freeways or switching between trains and trackwork buses wasn’t going to happen. I’m on holidays in Melbourne this week, but even if I’d been at home and work in Sydney I wouldn’t have made it to Campbelltown for this game.

        Overall the crowds haven’t been too bad this season. Not quite the lofty levels of a few years ago, but up on the last two years so trending in the right direction. I think Gold Coast United is terminal, but most clubs have shown enough growth to indicate they’re winning some of the disaffected supporters back.

        • January 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm
          Dean said | January 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm | ! Report

          ADE, BRI, CCM, MBV, NUJ & PER crowds this year are approx. 20% below their respective highest average annual attendance. NIX, SFC & GCU are approx. 30% below their highest average annual attendance. MBH is on target to beat last season’s average, which will make this season Heart’s highest average attendance. I reckon crowd that are 20-30% below record highs is extremely good in the current economy where most businesses are experiencing much higher downturn.

        • January 23rd 2012 @ 1:25pm
          PeterK said | January 23rd 2012 @ 1:25pm | ! Report

          mds1970, I understand your “concern” for GCU, but I can’t see how you can legitimately label it “terminal” when crowds are slowly improving (albeit from a very low base). The trend is in the “right” direction — “right” or “wrong” depends on what you hope for, of course. What is it that you hope for?

          My personal hope is that all existing A-League clubs thrive and improve, and I don’t need that to happen at the expense of other good games such as Rugby.

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