Is Lampard or Gerrard the more valuable midfielder?

Trophies don't make players better, they come from playing in better teams. Gerrard is the best all round player this country has produced since Bryan Robson (and possibly before). He attacks better than Scholes and defends better than Keane and his leadership and inspiration are the best ever seen in football - just look at Istanbul 2005 CL Final and 2006 FA Cup final. Would Scholes or Lampard have done the same things with the average Liverpool team he worked with? Man Utd won the 1999 Champions League final WITHOUT Scholes and Keane didn't they?? Not exactly integral were they? They just played in good teams! And as for Lampard... A very selfish, albeit good goal scorer, didn't offer too much else and probably, alongside Scholes, is the worst defending centre midfielder I have ever seen! I have never seen a better all round, box to box, consistent player than Gerrard who ALWAYS rises to the big occasions!!

Lampard is better

U liverpoolfans r just so biased.refusing to look at coldhard facts.Lampard surpasses gerrard in every aspect of the midfield.and considering they play the same position,of course goals will decide who is more valuable.sure gerrard bangs in a lot of crackers,but so does lampard.and even considering the wide angles n diatances he shoots from,its even fair to call him selfish.no gud midfielder refuses a free chancechance to pro ude for a striker so he can score a "cracker".pls go and look at their previous matches again before u say gerrard is better

sorry lion, they both good players i just don't agree with your statement even though money makes a big difference, liverpool is a big club with money, gerrard had alongside him big players coming from everywhere.i'm a chelsea fan and honestly talent wise i think gerrard has a little bit advantage but overhaul lampard is a much better complete footballer, time had show us exactly what lampard is about at 35 still holding epl record goal scorer from his position and 200+ goals for chelsea.

Lampard/ Gerrard is way better Scholes! Always has, always will be!! I just wondring way even England are thinking about replace two of the greatest players to ever play the game! I think Xavi is overrated, but Iniesta is a better offensive and a better ticka-tacka player - but he will never be on the same level, since he is not that complet as a player as Gerrard and Lampard! I do not think that any one else would be capable to lift their team to their placement.. Scholes In Chelsea insted og Lampard: no Campions League Scholes In Liverpool insted of Gerrard: 2.league

Stev g is way ahead of lazy lampard

Who is better? Big question!!! Hard to answer!!Who would you like to play with....?? An easy choice Stevie G...

Very clear and wise talk.Congrats not like headless chikens over here

Gerard is far better than lamp,Steve g is a better passer, both long and short and his Moro of a team player that any striker that played under him most par form unlike lampard,Geri plays every wing and cam mark any player but lampard can not, he wil only go to d Bach of a striker and stand waiting 4 a rebound,fluk or penalty infact his shellfishness is makin 90 percent of Chelsea strikers not to par for but take a look at all strikers that has played under Gerard

Hae lampard is better than gerard in term of goals nd awards but both of them are d same interm of appearance.k

Lampard now has Champions League trophy in cabinet with additional F.A. Cup, both this year in 2012. While Gerrard is a unquestioningly a respected player and greatly admired, it is clear being a top-flight goal scorer with a high ratio of goals and assists per game - http://totaldribble.com/post/20954740641. His age and talent which he no doubt possesses on and off the ball, leaves him just above Gerrard, in my opinion. An exceptional player who has strived to evolve and better his game, Lampard is simply one of the greatest midfielders to grace the game. Both are legends of the game and it is a priviledge to watch them in action week in, week out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9796858/Liverpools-Steven-Gerrard-says-Scholes-Giggs-and-Lampard-show-value-of-older-players.html

Like everyone here had rightly mentioned in this discussion about either Scholesy, Lamps, or General G. It is my satisfactory pleasure to agree with everyone here about their opinions. But of all these players mentioned, I think I will stand for a Scholesy triangular midfield any day, anywhere, anyhow, whatever opposition......He is indeed one of the greatest in his youthful days aswell as the ageing era....A player considered by the highly favourable Prof of football as a "football great of his days" Z-Zou. I stand to duff my hat for Scholesy . Scholesy-- Passing---9 Ball control--9 Positioning---8 Techiques-----9 Shooting------9 Lamps--- Passing--8 Ball control--8 Positioning---9 Techniques----9 Shooting------9 General G. Passing--9 Ball control--8 Positioning---9 Techniques----9 Shooting------8

u knw what its no use fighting these r 2 of d worlds best mids in their limelight bt as fr nw chelsea won uefa (frank has anothr trophy) frank has scored 150 goals in the bpl hell more thn any1 gerrad was better thn frank earlier bt tht spark seems to be gone nd it hurts bt is true as.fr.nw.franks bettr

In my opinion,Gerrard is a great player with a great leadership,however I will go with Frank Lampard in this comparison. First of all,he is my favourite English player and I would like to meet him one day,however that's not the most important thing. Secondly,he was also important and crucial for Chelsea and the trophies that the Blues won(including the Uefa Champions League)and he would always have a place in big clubs. Ι would like to ask all those who think that Lampard sucks:I want you to tell me one midfielder with an 155 IQ,who can score so many goals and give so many assists. We should also remember that when Lampard doesn't start,Chelsea are having trouble to win and on the other side,Gerrard or Liverpool did nothing after Alonso departure. That's why I think that Super Frankie is better than Stevie. P.S.I DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE GERRARD

Both are good and difficult to compare.But in life everyone has his good and bad and its a matter of quantity and quality in that aspect.In this case and in general Lamps emerges the winner especially after this crucial season that he has at last landed the uefa to Chelsea.He was the top scorer and assisted almost all the important goals.He did very good against Napoli second leg and was a miss in the first leg.He scored and assisted in that game also in the FA semi and final against Tottenham and Lpool.Assisted against Barca in the Semis and defended in disipline against Munich and his penalty shoot out was great.Gerrard is very good but Lamps is better though not by much.

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Lampard is far better player than Gerrard... Goals, Assists, Titles, Awards in every department he exceeds Gerrard... Can anyone tell me where Liverpool finished in the Table after the departure of Alonso. For me Alonso makes Gerrard better... Gerrard or Liverpool did nothing after Alonso Departure... Personally i like Gerrard, but Lampard is Light years better than Gerrard... Those who are saying Lampard scored most goals on Penalities remember onething, penalty is also tough to score, if u have doubt ask ur Gerrard (2006 World Cup Miss, 2012 Carling Cup Miss as i remember)

I agree that Scholes does not have Gerrard or Lampard's ability to score goals. Though the title of the blog is "Who is the more valuable midfielder?" I think a midfielder that can dictate play is more valuable than one who scores more than the average midfielder. My reason is that players who can do this are crucial to a team's success. Teams that have won World Cups and Champions Leagues almost always have this sort of player. If you think a midfielder's goal scoring ability is a more crucial component, well I guess you're entitled to that opinion. In my opinion players like Scholes, Wilshire, Britton, Xavi, Modric etc are more valuable than those like Gerrard and Lampard.

sWhy don't you lay off Lampard he is clearly as good or even better than Gerrard in all aspects hence the discussion about who is better. He was not recognised as the premier league player of the decade (2000-2009) for no reason. As far as im concerned, Paul Scholes is not even in the conversation. Why? He is a classic central midfielder who is accomplished in every aspect of midfield play. Xavi, Fabregas, Pirlo, Alonso, Carrick, Modric these are the types of players Scholes is associated with. Of course he scores more than them but he is a lot older than them as well. When you have played almost 700 matches its not inconceivable to think he could score 150 goals. Add to that in an era of success unparalleled to any other team in the last 20 years. How important are his goals? His cracker in the 2007-2008 UCL Semi final vs Barcelona is the only one of worth i can think of that really springs to mind. As for Lampard his UCL final 2008 equaliser and 2009 FA cup final winner and brace against Bolton in 2004/2005 to seal the title are just a couple of examples the important goals he has scored. For Gerrard well there are obviously the aforementioned goals vs Olympiakos and Milan and you can add the cracker in stoppage time in the 2006 Fa cup final as well as his hattrick off the bench in the Europa league last season vs Napoli. Lampard and Gerrard are worthy of being classified as forwards such are their potency in scoring when the going gets touch. The most important measure of Lampard and Gerrards value over Scholes or any other classic string puller in midfield is that Gerrard or Lampard was called upon to play in the centre of midfield or in a deep position as they have for England and their respective clubs, they would have no problems in extinguishing danger as well as creating from deep and controlling the midfield. Whether it would be to the high standard of Scholes is doubtful but conversely if Scholes was given the license to play as a number 10 and feed the forwards in an advanced position as well as take on more of a scoring responsibility i do not think he would have the predatory instincts nor the dribbling or pace to link the transition from defence to attack off a break as he would be too accustomed to having so much time on the ball from a deeper position. Therefore Lampard and Gerrard offers you more versatility all across the board. Don't get me wrong Scholes is a fantastic player but he has played in the middle of a flat four his whole career under Ferguson and therefore he does not give you as much versatility. Once it comes to value, versatility and adaptability are the most important facets which Lamps and Stevie G have in bucketloads. Alonso and Makelele were critical to Liverpool and Chelsea's successes but i did not say they were THE reason for Gerrard and Lampard's successes. Its a team sport and this duo were the perfect foil for the more celebrated duo because they simply more talented and have the leadership and fighting qualities that make them a gravitating force. Sneijder , Silva, Mata, Mueller, Ozil etc are the types of players who consistently score and create as well as providing versatility, that reflect the future Lampard and Gerrards.