Clint Bolton is a football hero, Clive Palmer is a football zero

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    Gold Coast United FC owner Clive Palmer watching his United A-league team's first training session. AAP Image/Tony Phillips

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    Last night a tumultuous day in the life of Australian football ended with a showdown on the pitch and off the pitch in Brisbane. On the pitch nearly 11,000 people at Suncorp stadium witnessed a gripping arm wrestle between Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Heart.

    The home team went into the break leading 1–0 but with the early exit of game’s most influential midfielder, goalscorer Mitch Nichols, Melbourne Heart wrested control of the game in the second half.

    Heart, playing with a 4-3-1-2 formation, pressed deep lying midfielder Erik Paartalu and broke up the Roar’s passing game. They were rewarded after young defender Curtis Good levelled the scores with his first A-League goal, and then looked the most likely to grab all three points.

    However the Roar, as is their custom, turned it around late in the game. They made a retreating Heart defence suffer and were rewarded with an injury time penalty.

    Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

    Clint Bolton the Heart custodian stared down the penalty taker, Bahraini international Mohammed Adnan. It was a text book study of how to coolly control a situation and get into the head of your opponent.

    Bolton guessed correctly as an out-psyched Adnan hit the penalty at a comfortable height and close to the keeper.

    The penalty was saved and Heart fans rejoiced at a precious point earned in their quest for a finals spot.

    Central Coast Mariners fans rejoiced as their team remained top of the table and one step closer to winning this season’s A-League premiership.

    And all around Australia football fans rejoiced at yet another act of heroics from one of football’s genuine good guys.

    Only last Wednesday night, he was yet again, donating his time at the Football Media Association’s trivia night to raise funds for Canteen, a charity for young people living with cancer. (He also gives $100 to Canteen every time he has a clean sheet.)

    Earlier in the evening football fans celebrated when the Supreme Court in Brisbane dismissed Clive Palmer’s injunction to maintain control of Gold Coast United after the FFA had terminated his license last Wednesday.

    Justice Jean Dalton said the comments made by Palmer particularly on February 19 and 20 were so serious she considered them to be a material breach of the FFA’s A-League participation agreement.

    The utter gracelessness of the billionaire’s actions and behaviour over the last two weeks has turned off almost the entire football community.

    This was epitomised on last Thursday with Clive Palmer going off half-cocked as self-appointed saviour of the game with the establishment of Football Australia.

    The reaction from the chairmen of A-League clubs was damning.

    “What a stupid and mindless entity and not even the dumbest of dumb would take this entity seriously,” said Adelaide United chairman Greg Griffin.

    Melbourne Victory chairman Anthony Di Pietro, himself no stranger to the critical spotlight this season, also took a strong stance in opposition to Palmer’s comments.

    “The establishment of a separate football body and the airing of club matters, that should be managed privately, are divisive and counter-productive to the growth, development and future of football in Australia.”

    “We, along with all clubs, have made an investment in the code and we have to protect our members, shareholders, sponsors and fans. We will keep challenging the FFA to grow the game, create best-practice governance and really compete with the other football codes, but the only way forward is together,” said Di Pietro.

    And finally, the measured critique from the chairman of the Central Coast Mariners, Peter Turnbull.

    “There are many points raised by Clive Palmer that have merit, and indeed they have been raised and discussed between the owners, and with the FFA on several occasions. But other issues raised by Clive do not – the manner of their raising is also most unfortunate and simply not helpful.”

    “There is no doubt that after seven years of ever-increasing losses, the owners’ stamina and willingness to donate to the cause of football is wearing thin.”

    “While these losses mount, there is a need for the owners to be in more control of how their investment is managed, as they are the ones in reality that are fronting the bills on a daily basis for all football followers.

    “Two government reports and the original PFA (Professional Footballers Australia) model have demanded it, and the FFA have now promised it. We can only achieve change in a unified manner with the FFA.” said Turnbull.

    Welcome examples of sagacity from the A-League chairmen. This was not the case when individuals with axes to grind, justifiable or otherwise, displayed seriously poor judgement by jumping on Palmer’s bandwagon of balderdash.

    How else can you explain former A-League Chairman Archie Fraser’s decision to become Palmer’s right hand man at Football Australia.

    On February 18 he was asked on Twitter, “Would you take a position with GCU if Clive made commitment to not interfere with actual operation of the club?”

    “I would not work for him regardless of how much he paid or offered – if he was out different story!” Archie Fraser replied.

    Or unfortunate opinion pieces from the fourth estate like this by Jesse Fink, “On behalf of the Australian football family, Clive, break a leg.”

    In the aftermath of the failed injunction Jesse Fink tweeted, “Keep fighting the bastards, #ClivePalmer.”

    According to the old proverb – The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The problem arises when the enemy you choose to further your goals turns out to have no credibility.

    As a very wise mother once famously said, “He is not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy! Now go away!”

    Clive Palmer should have taken a leaf out of the Clint Bolton playbook by playing it cool and with humility. He didn’t.

    To football fans he is now a football zero.

    Athas Zafiris is on Twitter @ArtSapphire

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    • March 3rd 2012 @ 7:42am
      jbinnie said | March 3rd 2012 @ 7:42am | ! Report

      Athas – Forgetting the Palmer angle in this offering are you not just a little perturbed that firstly Sage,then Tinkler, then the Adelaide consortium,and now Di Pietro and Turnbull have come forth and,while criticising Palmer’s methods ,have all seen fit to point out that the nub of his complaints have some merit ? .This to me is of much more concern than whether Palmer is a saviour or a stirrer. If these men think some of his complaints have merit I would suggest it is time for the FFA to get them together ASAP and sort out what is their perceived problems for there is little doubt if these men remain unsettled then there is a “sword of Damocles” poised right over the HAL’s head and this cannot be good for the long term well-being of the game. If this outcome does occur maybe Palmer’s antics will bear fruit in the long term. It is to be hoped so.jb

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        March 3rd 2012 @ 1:31pm
        Athas Zafiris said | March 3rd 2012 @ 1:31pm | ! Report

        thanks jbinnie – interesting take. Palmer as sacrificial lamb for the good of the game 😉
        Yes, the complaints of club owners have merit. No disputing that.
        However, Clive’s conduct has been disappointing to say the very least.

      • March 6th 2012 @ 11:35am
        PeterK said | March 6th 2012 @ 11:35am | ! Report

        Well spotted, jbinnie. An extremely good point.

    • March 3rd 2012 @ 7:53am
      Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 7:53am | ! Report

      “To football fans he is now a football zero.” ….Not for me—it’s Frank Lowy and Ben Buckley who are the Football Zeros

      Show the man Clive Palmer who is a renowned philanthropist a bit more respect—he may not be all that knowledgeable of football management, but he tried to give the Gold Coast football community a football club to be proud of. Unfortunately we Gold Coast Football fans did not appreciate his efforts enough to turn up, unless he opened up the gates for free on two occasions—our loss not his.

      • March 3rd 2012 @ 8:53am
        cruyff turn said | March 3rd 2012 @ 8:53am | ! Report

        No Qantas. Clive tried to give the Gold Coast community HIS team – complete with grandiose statements like “it will be the biggest show in town” and “to go through the first season undefeated”. That the people didn’t buy into his “vision” is hardly their fault, obviously they didn’t like the product.

        And before you say the FFA should have given more guidance and support to the club, think back to the late 1990s when Perth Glory emerged with such a bang. They succeeded through creative marketing and community engagement, and it happened at a time when Soccer Australia made the FFA look like a well-oiled machine. So don’t blame the governing body for your club’s demise. The opportunity was there and the club blew it.

        • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:05am
          Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:05am | ! Report

          His team featured in two final playoffs—I was a member who enjoyed the teams he put out on the park, even this year’s group of youngsters who were just starting to show some real potential. His team was fine with me—after all it was his $18m that made it all possible. All I had to do was buy a scarf and turn up on the day, which I happily did until senile Frank Lowy pulled the rug out from beneath us.

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:23am
            cruyff turn said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:23am | ! Report

            I have no problem with the players or even Bleiberg. They played some good football in their first two seasons, the type of football which deserved a far better audience. Even this season there have been some positives, the emergence of so many young kids being one of them – and for that, the coaching staff should be congratulated. It’s GCU’s administration and owner that I’m critical of.

            With barely 1,000 fans attending home matches, the “Freedom of Speech” fiasco, as well as the anti-FFA diatribe emanating from Clive’s mouth, the situation was truly untenable. Swift action was needed, for the sake of the A-League product.

            • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:15am
              Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:15am | ! Report

              Pffft… The freedom of speech slogan!!!! Is that the reason to revoke the club licence…? Gawd look what happens over in Europe in that part of the world a club caught of match fixing and corruption of sorts or kick backs only cop a fine or deduction of match points. The world would laugh at this punishment GCU have received. Our average attendance was just going on 3k better than last year and we are last on the table—we just started to turn things around and now the loyal supporters we do have now, now have no club.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:34pm
                Ian Whitchurch said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:34pm | ! Report

                Qantas supports Australian Football.

                Clive Palmer does not.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 3:43pm
                Axelv said | March 3rd 2012 @ 3:43pm | ! Report

                Clive Palmer supports Rugby.

              • March 4th 2012 @ 6:56am
                Kasey said | March 4th 2012 @ 6:56am | ! Report

                The fact that you “ppfft” the central issue here shows how little you understand about football. FIFA regulations specifically ban political slogans on football kits. FFA got wind of Palmer’s stunt and warned him off. He went through with it anyway. At that point he chose the course of action that would bring him into serious conflict with FFA. Given that he had the option of removing the slogan, one has to assume that he meant to push the FFA to the point where they would revoke his licence so he could drag the game into the court and get an injunction stopping the season and therefore destroying the integrity of the season and seriously harm our game. Fans of other clubs can see this which is why he is persona non grata in football circles from here on in. He seemed prepared to take down the whole league to satisfy his ego-trip. I’m100% glad he is gone, the amount of coverage devoted to him in the past weeks instead of the games leading up to the finals series and of course the Socceroos excellent win over the Saudis has been a missed opportunity for football. I blame Palmer for that which is why I’m so happy he is finally gone. His boondoggle FA can round up all the malcontents and join SBS in sniping from the sidelines. Except for the GC fans[who I genuinely feel sorry for], next season promises to be so much better. No inane “does that pathetic 1,000 crowd mean football is dying?” garbage on here and other message boards, we that are left should be able to concentrate on the important things of the games themselves rather than the politics behind them. Forza Fotballl!

              • March 6th 2012 @ 11:45am
                PeterK said | March 6th 2012 @ 11:45am | ! Report

                Kasey, “we that are left should be able to concentrate on the important things” sounds very much to me like “we that are left are OK — pull the ladder up Jack”.

                I’m an “outsider” with no A-League club within 1000 km, but I’m a football tragic, and I hate to see the dropping of a club. I do so hope that something good comes of all this (and I guess I’m not alone in that), but for me, I hope it involves the continuation somehow of GCU.

                Keep heart, QsAF!

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            March 3rd 2012 @ 10:34am
            Philip Coates said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:34am | ! Report

            I’m getting sick of the line “he spent $18M” … as a guy down the page pointed out, Clive paid $10M for a christmas party and gifts at just one of his companies. $18M is small change.

            That said, I’d also like to add that i wish Clive NEVER spent a cent. I wish he never was given a license and he kept his money in his pocket. We would all be better off. A-League crowd averages would be higher for starters, the good young players would have found their way into the game through other clubs, but more importantly we would all be talking about the football and the upcoming finals instead of talking about this waste of space lunatic that is CP.

            • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:46am
              Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:46am | ! Report

              I can honestly say thanks Clive for giving me almost 3 years of good football on the Gold Coast where there only has been NRL and AFL for entertainment. Well Phil, I suppose that doesn’t interest you—spreading the Football Gospel nationally—just keep it in Melbourne and Sydney hey…

              • Roar Guru

                March 3rd 2012 @ 10:53am
                Philip Coates said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:53am | ! Report

                That’s odd, I thought there was a rather good team in Brisbane? Did I miss something?
                Also Adel, Perth, Newcastle, Central Coast … QSAF, trust me, the gospel will be spread without Clive

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:55am
                Roarchild said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:55am | ! Report

                If not for Clive then the Galaxy bid would have got in and you may still have a team.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 11:05am
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 11:05am | ! Report

                Galaxy pulled out before Clive was approached to save the day for FFA. The Galaxy finally came clean that they could not raise the money; before Clive came in on short notice on the eleventh hour. Really man, they were a bunch of cowboys— remember they were going to get David Beckham to play a few games—as if…

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 11:15am
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 11:15am | ! Report

                Phil the Roar is 100klm from where I live on the Gold Coast. Jets are 130klm from Sydney, CCM are about 80klm from Sydney as for Melbourne how far away is the Heart from Melb Vic..?

        • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:12am
          Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:12am | ! Report

          Btw CT where is Nick Tanner these days? Was he happy how football was promoted in Australia… NOOOO!!!!

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:29am
            cruyff turn said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:29am | ! Report

            No he wasn’t happy. That was precisely my point. Perth Glory did well in spite of the governing body.

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:29am
            The Special One said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:29am | ! Report

            Tana not Tanner.

            I believe he was in talks to head a West Sydney team but he pulled out because he was having another grandchild.

        • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:21am
          Kasey said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:21am | ! Report

          Palmer apologists like to point out the $18mil he put in, which is change from the back of the couch for his ilk, but what of the fans who put in their hard earned? Did Palmer listen to them? No he sh*t on them seemingly at every opportunity. Where was their voice? their freedom of speech? a $400 season ticket isn’t chump change for a Joe Average, Palmer treated the GC and football in general with complete disrespect. I can’t understand this kind of Stockholm syndrome where the very people screwed by CP are trying to defend him? It reminds me of the comedy skit where a family goes to an Army passing out parade to watch the eldest son and the mum says: Oh look, my boy is in step, why is everybody else in the platoon not in step with him. Wake up and smell the coffee GC fans, you were screwed not by Lowy/Buckley, but by Palmer himself. We can see it, your rose coloured glasses need a rinse. Palmer was a cancer in football he had to go. I’m glad he is finally gone

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:21am
            Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:21am | ! Report

            Good work Kasey—I look forward to you taking over the franchise and giving us a club to follow next year without complaint, when you can’t fill the stands to pay the high premium that Skill Park were charging Clive.

            • March 4th 2012 @ 12:00pm
              JohnL said | March 4th 2012 @ 12:00pm | ! Report

              How about you take over the franchise QSAF instead of telling everyone else to?

              • March 6th 2012 @ 11:54am
                PeterK said | March 6th 2012 @ 11:54am | ! Report

                JohnL, it’s Kasey who is poo-pooing Clive’s dough — QsAF appreciates it. (I guess because he knows he needs it.)

                We in NQ would have appreciated it too! Actually we did have a bit of Clive’s dough indirectly, through the sponsorship of our lot by Clive’s local company, but I doubt the amount was anything like $18M.

              • March 6th 2012 @ 12:54pm
                Kasey said | March 6th 2012 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

                Its not that I’m unsympathetic to the GCU fans, its just that I got tired of the consistent free kicks provided to knockers of the game by the pathetic crowds, the bigmouthed garbage from Clive etc. I’m imagining a future season without either of those distractions (Fuss might say that any publicity is ‘good’ attention, but I disagree, the consistent negativity has to have an impact on the public image of the game at some stage). Already this year we are well on track to record our largest ever aggregate attendance for the league, we just need a touch over 7k for each of the remaining games to get above the 1,384,902 set last season. Difference being: last year the average had dropped for the second year in a row, this year not only will the aggregate go up, but he average will too. I know the constant negativity that surrounds football fans can be hard to break through, but imagine how successful the game could be if just a handful of the mistakes made by FFA could be ironed out?

      • March 3rd 2012 @ 11:18am
        GC Football Fan said | March 3rd 2012 @ 11:18am | ! Report

        QSAF – I was a season ticket holder for year 1 and 2, and enjoyed the football immensely. But apart from the football, everything else about the club has, was and still is a disaster. It is pretty plain to see that Clive was harming the A – League brand and football in Australia. The FFA are not the bad guys in this, it was a mercy kill for the good of the game, and as a football fan I want the game to flourish.

        • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:34pm
          Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:34pm | ! Report

          And exactly where do you live halfway to to Brisbane perhaps at a guess? No I can’t agree with you. Lowy let Palmer down badly and out of frustration CP attacked the FFA. Lowy should have waited until after the end of the season to talk to Palmer about his problem funding GCU. The FOX deal is just been agreed upon in principle at a guess from the rhetoric we heard from BB—hinting in a FOX interview and obviously it had to do with a club in West Sydney. This is a stab in the back however you look at it for the GCU faithful—even those who don’t like Clive—wait until next season when there is no Club on the Gold Coast and their cries will be answered by Lowy.

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:43pm
            Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:43pm | ! Report

            unanswered by Lowy (typo)

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 1:15pm
            GC Football Fan said | March 3rd 2012 @ 1:15pm | ! Report

            I live at Palm Beach. Look I’m disappointed too. Palmer had 3 years to get it right and he couldn’t or wouldn’t. And yes maybe the FFA have used the circumstances as an opportunity but that doesn’t change how poorly Clive has run the club and damaged the brand on the Gold Coast. If the FFA had money like the AFL they could fund a team on the Gold Coast, they don’t so they have to do it with private funding. The FFA has to take the opportunities when they come. Sometimes it works, Sage and Tinkler, and sometimes it doesn’t Matheson and Palmer. Fans have to role with the punches until the the league settles and there is more TV money to help the clubs.

            • March 3rd 2012 @ 2:09pm
              Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 2:09pm | ! Report

              Palmer couldn’t get it right because people like you didn’t turn up—if you and your kind had then the cap would have been lifted and we would still have a club. So no good saying your disappointed like me, you just didn’t care enough about having a club on the Coast in the HAL.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 2:52pm
                super G said | March 3rd 2012 @ 2:52pm | ! Report

                That’s just it. Palmer or no Palmer, the good folk of the Gold Coast had 3 seasons to show they deserve a team but the statistics don’t lie. Clearly there is not enough people that care for the game up there which I suspected all along when the news came through initially that the Gold Coast were to have a team in the HAL.
                Tried – Failed – Case closed. Next!

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 4:06pm
                Titus said | March 3rd 2012 @ 4:06pm | ! Report

                Clive Palmer is gone, the Football fans have 3? games to show their support for a team, if the club cannot attract around 10 000 to these games then there isn’t enough interest in the region and no one could make a team there work.

                If the fans turn up then there may be people who can see a future and aquire the licence.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 4:09pm
                Axelv said | March 3rd 2012 @ 4:09pm | ! Report

                Super G there was enough people there, look at the first season. Look at what happened the game after each crowd cap over 3 seasons.

                The fans tried, but did not pledge their undying loyalty to the dictator that created and destroyed top flight football on the Gold Coast.

                Top marks to the fans that protested against Palmer from his very first critical error (crowd cap in early season 1) and continued after. They were fighting for the club and football on the Gold Coast and they didn’t keep their heads buried into the sand ignoring what is around them.

                I can promise you, if Palmer owned Melbourne Victory and made the decisions and treatment of his fans that he did at Gold Coast, Melbourne Victory would be averaging 4000 people and so few of those that are left would be protesting furiously against him and not giving up until he goes away. People would be arguing that this proves there is no support for football in Melbourne and that Melbourne is over rated as amarket, Sydney is the football capital of Australia and they triple Melbourne’s crowds, Clive’s Melbourne Victory is proof of this etc. When in fact there is support for football in Melbourne, just not under an obnoxious owner that tells the fans to stay away..

                Instead, Melbourne Victory has 50 owners that fund the club, and it does not take the stupid decision of one person to interfere and ruin a club.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 4:14pm
                GC Football Fan said | March 3rd 2012 @ 4:14pm | ! Report

                I was there, The game against Fulham. In the Beach when it was open. Stuck in the corner when Clive shut it. This year in the Eastern stand, my eyeballs melting in the sun, until Clive closed it, back to the Beach end, then he closed that. I love football, I just watched Palm Beach youth beat Mudgeeraba 10 – nil. Clive just made it hard work, no wonder the casual football supporter didn’t go.

              • March 4th 2012 @ 12:03pm
                JohnL said | March 4th 2012 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

                How can you blame what has happened on another GC supporter? And someone that was also a season ticket holder.

              • March 4th 2012 @ 12:47pm
                super G said | March 4th 2012 @ 12:47pm | ! Report

                Axelv….GCU crowds were never respectable. In their first season they didn’t get close to a 7000/7500 average which would be a moderately respectable size for a new franchise entering the league.
                If you can’t bring crowds of at least that size with you as a new club you don’t deserve a place. It’s the bare minimum requirement. Otherwise what is the point of expansion?
                And all you jilted and disgruntled GCU supporters can go on about Clive all day but the bottom line is that THE GOLD COAST WERE GIVEN AN A-LEAGUE TEAM AND DID NOT EMBRACE IT.
                Did you not realise that by boycotting Clive by not attending (justified or not) that your club would be closed down and you would NEVER again have a team from the Gold Coast in the A-league?

              • March 4th 2012 @ 1:11pm
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 4th 2012 @ 1:11pm | ! Report

                Super G—is that Super league you support? If so you would remember that League had 3 attempt so establish a League team on the Gold Coast and if you are an AFL supporter they also had three attempts to establish a team on the Gold Coast. Too many people are jumping on Clive who wants to remain the owner of GCU who has the money to keep going until the next TV deal comes to fore. But no; we attack him, and Lowy pulls the rug from beneath us, we have to date a 3,800 av and that was better than last year. We are now playing with local kids— the team was building nicely until Lowy jumped the gun. The slogan issue was just an excuse to put in a West Sydney Rovers type team in to appease the critical mass of haters of Clive and GCU.

              • March 4th 2012 @ 4:01pm
                super G said | March 4th 2012 @ 4:01pm | ! Report

                QsAF…Team was building nicely.. Lowy jumped the gun?? Are we on the same planet? GCU was going absolutely nowhere on field or off-field. It was a necessary mercy kill which was made possible by Clive’s shenanigans.
                But if this leads to a western sydney team for next season then all’s well that ends well.

              • March 6th 2012 @ 12:03pm
                PeterK said | March 6th 2012 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

                Oh boy, am I going to HATE Western Sydney if it comes in over the dead body of GCU! I night even become a Sydney FC fan!!!

    • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:03am
      DJB said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:03am | ! Report

      Clive Palmer is actually a hero in Towsville. 750 employees at Qld Nickel were told they had lost their jobs after BHP billiton posted losses every year. Clive bought it saved the employees jobs and listened to the employees on how to streamline operations. The plant turned it around with record profits. He spend $10million dollars on a christmas party and mercedes benz for the long term employees and overseas holidays for all employees. He might actually know how to run a business unlike the FFA who would have folded ages ago without government handouts.

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        March 3rd 2012 @ 11:43am
        Athas Zafiris said | March 3rd 2012 @ 11:43am | ! Report

        Thanks DJB – its good to know that Clive is a hero somewhere. But when it comes to football, the vast majority of the football community have cast their verdict and it does not look good.

    • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:03am
      Kasey said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:03am | ! Report

      Athas, another great article that summarizes the feelings of many(but not all) in this matter. Is it any coincidence that this week has seen a plethora of football fans respond to the events by linking youtube clips to Monty Python skits? we had the “Splitters!”skit when Palmer promised Palmergedon by forming Football Australia, you’ve alluded to Palmer not being the saviour, just a very naughty boy. I wonder if that long hoped for sense of humour in football fans(esp, the ability to laugh at one’s self), is finally developing?
      I think the only regular here still drinking the Palmer kool aide is QSAF, which considering the way his team has been handled by Palmer, is almost understandable. Of course its easier to jump on the Anti-Lowy/Buckley bandwagon rather than face the cold hard truth that Palmer cruelled the team by his own failures and decisions. QSAF will find a sympathetic ear amongst the ABL brigade
      (Anybody but Lowy – to run the game) brigade that has adherents all over the country. I feel for him and his peers – although I am glad the cancer that is Palmer has been removed from the sport I love, so now I prefer to not be glum or in the dumps,I think I’m going to purse my lips and give a whistle as I reflect upon the truly great achievements and strides made by the sport in the last 20 years, to dream of where it is surely heading in the next 5-10 years. of course I’m doing that which comes unnaturally to many football fans in:

      • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:35am
        Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:35am | ! Report

        Wonderful speech Kasey, I am now more than ever convinced you can offer us poor souls who live up on the Gold Coast a wonderful future in the HAL. When will you exactly be offering Frank Lowy the $18m of your own personal wealth to get things moving up here? “Kasey can kick harder than Clive” will be sung at the Beach end of Skilled Park on your arrival. Welcome aboard commodore.

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          March 3rd 2012 @ 10:38am
          Philip Coates said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:38am | ! Report

          I’m getting sick of the line “he spent $18M” … as a guy up the page pointed out, Clive paid $10M for a christmas party and gifts at just one of his companies. $18M is small change.

          That said, I’d also like to add that i wish Clive NEVER spent a cent. I wish he never was given a license and he kept his money in his pocket. We would all be better off. A-League crowd averages would be higher for starters, the good young players would have found their way into the game through other clubs, but more importantly we would all be talking about the football and the upcoming finals instead of talking about this waste of space lunatic that is CP.

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:49am
            Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:49am | ! Report

            Haven’t you already said this

            • Roar Guru

              March 3rd 2012 @ 10:54am
              Philip Coates said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:54am | ! Report

              QSAF, I wanted to make sure you read it 🙂

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 10:57am
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 10:57am | ! Report

                No I think you are just dyslexic 🙂

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 4:29pm
                BigAl said | March 3rd 2012 @ 4:29pm | ! Report

                you mean . . . dyslectic ??

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 6:45pm
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 6:45pm | ! Report

                Not you too BigA, really feel sorry for you….


        • March 3rd 2012 @ 11:26am
          Kasey said | March 3rd 2012 @ 11:26am | ! Report

          That’s it QSAF, you just attack me,(I’m a long serving football fan & as one I reckon I can take your anger and snide comments.) I’ve been blamed for everything from the de-Australianization of the sports landscape to outright hooligan behavior) keep your anger focused on me instead of the prat that royally screwed Gold Coast United and by extension dragged the good name of the sport through the mud.
          FWIW, I reckon a trained monkey could have done a better job than CP in running GCU. It would have been a simple matter to appoint knowledgeable people into football positions and then not meddle in their affairs every time my ego demanded satisfaction. CPs other big mistake was not actually listening to people like Miron Blieberg, thinking he knew better because he was rich. How hard would it have been to organize with the GC council to run some shuttle buses from various pickup points in the area to bring people to the stadium. a very small (and with council partnership likely not that expensive) but important commitment from the club to extend the metaphoric hand out to the community
          If you want to join the bitter brigade and blame everything on Lowy and Buckley, go right ahead, just don’t expect a lot of support here as its pretty obvious to a lot of us thart CP screwed not just the pooch in this venture, but the fans as well.
          See ya Clive, you promised much but ended up causing more trouble than good, please close the door on your way out. The game overall will be stronger without your destabilizing rants and embarrassment causing decisions as a club owner.

          • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:17pm
            Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:17pm | ! Report

            Just noticed my comment has been deleted. So Mods it’s OK for Kasey to attack me with snide remarks and I have no recourse to respond to the defaming—is this how it works one rule for one poster and another for a GCU supporter…?

            • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:21pm
              Kasey said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:21pm | ! Report

              How is me pointing out your delusions being snide? You are the only one pushing the Clive woz wobbed by Lowy/Buckley barrow. Have you stopped to wonder why you’re not being overwhelmed with support yet? Could it be that you are just plain wrong?

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:34pm
                striker said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:34pm | ! Report

                Kasey theres no use responding to QASF he makes no sense so best to ignore him, his bitter that his clubs a failure and everyone except for Clive are at fault.

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:40pm
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

                Well that’s because I’m the only GCU supporter that comes to the Roar site. Clearly you are not a GCU supporter? If it were AU being booted out—wouldn’t you have something to say about that..?

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 12:50pm
                Kasey said | March 3rd 2012 @ 12:50pm | ! Report

                There weren’t that many NQ Fury fans here either, but the overwhelming sentiment on here was that they were screwed. Generally we are football fans first and foremost, which means the majority of us want to see football succeed. It has a much better chance of doing that without Palmer involved appears to be the consensus here.
       will you be following them to get your football fix?

              • March 3rd 2012 @ 2:04pm
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | March 3rd 2012 @ 2:04pm | ! Report

                Clive Palmer was the major sponsor for the Fury so your hate is only confined to GCU. Gawd blimey, how do you justify that position you’re taking? No I won’t be following the Stars until they enter the HAL and most probably I’ll be dead before that happens. I’m going back to rejoin the Euro Snobs FC on SBS, but keeping an eye on SFC where I was born, and learnt to play all my football there, starting at the early age of 10yrs, but it ain’t the same as being at the ground, watching it live in the flesh is it?

    • March 3rd 2012 @ 9:11am
      The Special One said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:11am | ! Report

      “Two government reports and the original PFA (Professional Footballers Australia) model have demanded it, and the FFA have now promised it. We can only achieve change in a unified manner with the FFA.” said Turnbull.

      I might have missed it but when did the FFA promise this??

      • Roar Guru

        March 3rd 2012 @ 9:18am
        The Cattery said | March 3rd 2012 @ 9:18am | ! Report

        Also, the second government report was heavily qualified on this issue.

    • March 3rd 2012 @ 1:35pm
      Futbanous said | March 3rd 2012 @ 1:35pm | ! Report

      Since Mark Viduka missed in the 2005 WC qualifier Penalty shoot out I’ve made a habit of checking out the look on players faces as they line up the shot. Saw a look of Mark In Adnan’s face & knew he was not going to score.
      Clint psyched out Adnan well & truly got into the fragile penalty taking brain of the man who missed for Bahrain in NZ.
      As a fan I would have rejoiced of course if we had won,but as an objective observer MH deserved the draw.
      Very impressed with their play.

      • Roar Guru

        March 3rd 2012 @ 1:40pm
        Athas Zafiris said | March 3rd 2012 @ 1:40pm | ! Report

        Thanks Futbanous – thanks for commenting about the game last night. It was overshadowed by events off the pitch. I tried bring both events into focus.

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