Predicting the AFL season from the bottom up

By Andrew Leonard / Roar Pro

Looking back on last year’s pre-season predictions there were some things that were obvious and easy to predict and others that left us wondering why we even bothered playing oracle.

The AFL rightly received criticism for its predictability in the second half of 2011. But try telling that to a tipster who got eight right only once last season.

If you can’t get eight tips right with multiple rounds of footy already played how are you supposed to make predictions for an entire season?

Human nature is to declare the winners first. However, in a bid to improve on my predictions of 2011, let’s start this year at the bottom and get some cheap “wins” locked away.

Greater Western Sydney will most likely have a name change, to drop the Greater before they become great. They are the locked in for the wooden spoon.

Second-year blues will haunt the Gold Coast (17th) more than I think they – and perhaps other pundits – will expect. Besides, Port Adelaide have shown enough this pre-season to suggest that they will not be the basket cases they were last year.

Here is where it gets tricky. Immediately you want to look at the teams from last year who were propping up the competition table.

It’s here that the obvious question hits you. How much longer can the Lions, Dees, Tigers and Roos continue to not be in the finals?

And worse, without priority picks to tank for – sorry, be eligible for – surely there is more benefit for these clubs to strive to win at all costs?

Every year there are clubs that come from nowhere to make their way into a surprise finals spot. Think West Coast last year.

The problem here is that for one team to enter the finals, one or two teams from last year need to drop out.

Here is the first big call. Western Bulldogs (16th) will have a bad year and St Kilda (15th) won’t be much better. Both have new coaches and new game plans to get used to.

Brisbane (14th) seem to rely too much on Jonathan Brown, but with him having missed so much football they should be used to it by now. Now that he’s back on the park that should mean a couple more wins than last year and signs of improvement for 2013 to come.

Pre-season form can mean something if you are winning and mean you are “trying things” if you are losing.

I have jumped on board the winning and promise that Port Adelaide (13th) have shown this summer. Besides, they can’t be that bad again.

If the final eight becomes a final 10 then we can assume Richmond (12th) will have a mortgage on 11th, although they will not even be that good this year.

Sure, the Tigers are coming and will improve. But it’s very difficult fitting 14 teams into eight. Someone has to miss out.

Richmond are good at it, so what is the difference between ninth and 12th anyway?

In a complete contradiction to my assessment of Port’s preseason form I can’t say the same will be the case for the NAB Cup premiers Adelaide (11th). The Crows will need to make the eight this September if they wish to feature in my pre-season finals predictions next year. At this stage they miss out.

Two days ago, when drafting this, North Melbourne (10th) were in the eight. Then a friend alerted me to the fact that the Demons had a very solid list and probably just needed a coach that wasn’t trying to play kids for the future.

The problem here is that Melbourne (9th) still have a light midfield an,d more importantly, still have better teams ahead of them.

If you thought the Saints and Dogs were surprises, here is the next one. The team that replaced North in the eight are last year’s premiers.

Geelong (8th), despite being the supreme team of the past half-decade, surely have to fall at some time.

Brisbane fell in the fifth year after making the Grand final; its Geelong’s 6th since their first Premiership of the era.

2012 will not be the year of the cat.

Essendon (7th) were impressive last year under James Hird and despite most thinking it will be second-year blues in their renaissance, the Bombers will climb one more place on last year.

Keeping them out of a home final will be Sydney (6th), who seem to be getting better each year. Once again, though, they will fall short of the double chance.

West Coast (6th) were the surprise climber of last season, managing to sneak into the four. While there is every chance they will do it again we have to remember just how good their veterans were last year. Two years in a row seems a more difficult prospect.

If sides are to climb then that means sides have to drop. Last week Collingwood (4th) were missing the four but, like the prospect of Geelong missing the eight, it is hard to see the Pies, with so many top line players, missing the double chance. However, they will lose enough games to make the four no sure thing until late in the season.

The bolter of the season will be the subterfuge coach himself, Ross Lyon and his Fremantle (3rd) outfit. The Dockers were expected to make the grade in 2011 but were cruelled by a big toe of a giant. Plus there were all the other injuries that left Mark Harvey, who had a date for the ball, to watch as the more qualified jock took her home at midnight.

The arrogance is back at Visy Park, as Carlton (2nd) continues their improvement trajectory towards a double chance and home final in 2012.

Which leaves the obvious pick of Hawthorn (1st) for the minor Premiership.

Ah you say, he has just written the final positions after the home and away matches.

That’s right, a Collingwood versus Carlton preliminary final awaits us in September, with the Pies to play the Hawks in the Grand Final.

What was everyone saying about the Kirribilli agreement not working?

1. Hawthorn
2. Carlton
3. Fremantle
4. Collingwood
5. West Coast
6. Sydney
7. Essendon
8. Geelong
9. North Melbourne
10. Melbourne
11. Adelaide
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. Brisbane
15. St Kilda
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Gold Coast
18. GWS

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2012-03-24T09:39:00+00:00

Andrew Leonard

Roar Pro


I am the first to admit there are some contradictions in my rationale behind the improvements of some teams and decline of others. Unfortunately to get a mini assessment of all teams in the one article it required limiting the reasons behind decisions. Ultimately though, a team tends to rise that is not expected and a sure thing tends to fall a bit.

2012-03-24T06:13:16+00:00

Lost Earthling

Guest


When it comes to the Lions a lot of people seem to forget one of their other big/tall players who has missing a lot through injury, Brent Staker. He was playing as a second power forward or the second big man in defence and I think his loss has been understated due to Merret and Brown missing most of last season. Once again injuries are going to play as a big a part as form. If the Hawks, Cats and Pies keep their best players on the field then they are going to be pretty hard to beat for the flag. I think Freo will struggle to make the 8 let alone top four and the Swans will beat the Blues to 4th spot. I'm just glad i'm no longer a gambling man, these days I'm happy if I get 5 tips right each week.

2012-03-24T03:55:25+00:00

Lachlan

Roar Guru


Very optimistic ladder predictions

2012-03-24T03:15:38+00:00

the sports guy

Guest


not sure how you worked out freo to be top 5 let alone 3rd? swap them with geelong, collingwood with hawthorn, and your top 8 looks about right.

2012-03-24T02:17:13+00:00

Me too

Guest


a different looking ladder to most. whilst you think a new coach at freo will catapult them into the top three, you have the saints plummeting, despite fielding a better team than last year (Lenny in, Dawson out). Using the saints experience with Lyon, they dropped out of the finals in his first year and took two to be a genuine contender.i see Freo also taking time to adapt and not making the eight this year as lyon doesn't create a gameplay around players, but trains (or trades for) players to play his roles. the saints are second only to Geelong in experience and should more readily adapt to watters tweaking ,given his collingwood game plan heavily borrowed from the saints model itself. The crows won't get an easier draw and so should finish just outside the eight. I can't see Carlton rising to second, but they will fight out fourth spot again with the eagles. I expect Hawthorn and Collingwood to top the ladder, Geelong , West Coast, Carlton, St Kilda, Sydney, and Essendon. I'd be surprised if any of those finish more than a couple of places away from where I have them. The two newest clubs will prop up the ladder. Port, Brisbane, and the Dogs will also have a few more lean years.

2012-03-23T21:42:08+00:00

The Cattery

Roar Guru


Some radical predictions here! Freo in 3rd spot seems a tad optimistic. Adelaide will definitely be in the mix for a top 8 spot. Gold Coast and GWS look right.

2012-03-23T21:33:45+00:00

TomC

Guest


'Brisbane (14th) seem to rely too much on Jonathan Brown, but with him having missed so much football they should be used to it by now. ' You'd think so, wouldn't you? Unfortunately they don't seem to have been able to develop other options in the forwardline, and are likely to throw Merrett forward in the first couple of weeks as a stopgap. If St Kilda manage to fall as low as 15th then that is a huge black mark against Watters' name. This is largely the same team that drew the grand final two seasons ago. I doubt they'll do that badly but I admit I've been worried from what I've seen in the NAB Cup. I also think you're being pretty optimistic about the Demons' chances, particularly as they also need to adapt to a new coach and new gameplan. I don't see any particularly good reasons for them to be big improvers in 2012, and they are already battling with some injuries. I think they might join the Lions, Giants and Suns in the bottom four this season. But good on you for making some big calls. It takes a lot of courage at this time of year, and I think it's possible you're right about the Dockers and the Cats.

2012-03-23T17:45:18+00:00

Elwood Miles

Guest


I just can't see St.Kilda falling all the way to 15th, people are saying their defence without Zac Dawson won't stand up against sides like Collingwood and Hawthorn, with the two dominant forwards, but Zac wasn't exactly the best Full back, and perhaps the likes of Beau Wilkes or Tom Simpkin will step up and fulfill this role, not to mention James Gwilt will come back mid season. St.Kilda also seem intent on blooding kids, and the likes of Riewoldt, Dal Santo, Goddard and Fisher won't step down for kids like Sadd, Sippos, Stanley or Ledger&co. Effectively I see St.kilda not really changing that much this year from last, I think they want their side project players to take the reins of their mid-tir players like Ray, Peake, Blake, Kosi and so on. Perhaps they will drop, perhaps they will rise, in either case, I think not by much, we'll have to wait and see how the kids do.

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