Scotland's 2012 rugby tour down under

By Rugby Fan / Roar Guru

Most of the discussion on The Roar has been about the upcoming Test series against Wales. For neutral supporters, it’s probably the pick of the match-ups between the northern and southern hemispheres over the next few weeks.

But of course, the first order of business for Australia is against Scotland.

It’s an odd fixture. Firstly, it’s a mid-week game, which is rare these days in the Test calendar. It’s a capped international but Australia have a number of players unavailable because of the demands of Super Rugby. It’s also a one-off, while the other home nations have all set-up three match series against southern opponents.

Understandably, then, there has been far less comment on the game beyond wondering how Deans will marshall limited resources. And hoping that Scotland don’t spring a surprise on the Wallabies like Samoa did.

So, to give a bit more balance, here are a few notes on Scotland.

Under Andy Robinson, Scotland achieved some promising results, notably a victory over Australia at Murrayfield in 2009, a tour success against Argentina in 2010 and a home win over South Africa the same year. However, a crushing 3-49 loss to New Zealand in the same Autumn international series was a reminder that the team was still vulnerable.

The 2011 Six Nations saw further disappointment for the Scots, yielding only one win, over Italy. A familiar problem was attack: they just couldn’t score tries. The World Cup was a chance for redemption but they went down to a last-minute try by Argentina and eventually also lost to England, despite having the best of the game for long periods.

For the first time in World Cup history, Scotland failed to progress to the knock-out rounds.

The 2012 Six Nations was even worse. Scotland lost every game and finished with the wooden spoon.

So Australia should have nothing to worry about against a team which has now lost seven Tests on the trot, right? Well, Scotland certainly finished the Six Nations on a low but they actually started the campaign brightly.

Again, they had the better of the match against England but managed to butcher some try-scoring chances which would have seen them to victory. They held their own against Wales until some foolish yellow cards saw them concede a hatful of points which lost them the game. They led against France twice but lost 17-23.

On the field, number eight Dave Denton caught the eye and is tipped by many to make the Lions team. However, and fortunately for the Wallabies, but he’s out with an injured ankle.

Lock Jim Hamilton will also miss the match: he’s on a seven-week suspension for fighting. Kelly Brown is another absentee in the forwards.

Still, there are some good players who will be on the pitch so let’s run through a possible line-up.

The front row shouldn’t be a problem. Jon Welsh has the tighthead shirt but Ryan Grant has sometimes been preferred at club level and could get the nod. Ross Ford at hooker played with the Lions in 2009, and will captain the side. Geoff Cross or Euan Murray on the other side of the scrum will complete a decent combination.

Hamilton is out but lock Richie Gray is fit, and his athletic style of play will be a threat if he finds himself in space. Look out for his try Six Nations against Ireland on YouTube (sorry that the commentary isn’t in English, but you get the picture!)

Alastair Kellock will probably replace Hamilton: he was captain for the day when Scotland last beat Australia.

Denton is a big loss but Australia shouldn’t underestimate the Scottish back row.

Flanker Ross Rennie was named man of the match against France, despite ending up on the losing side, and he could give Pocock a run for his money. Andy Robinson may choose Richie Vernon at number eight because he has good pace and will enjoy hard pitches.

Alternatively, he might go for John Barclay who can play blind-side or number 8. Barclay, along with Kelly Brown and Johnnie Beattie, formed the “Killer B’s” back row in 2010. Brown is injured and Beattie was dropped after a shoulder injury in 2010 saw him lose form. The appearance of Denton also kept him out of contention.

On the other flank, Alasdair Strokosch is the man most likely, because he’ll add a bit of experience which could be in short supply elsewhere on the pitch. Perpignan have just signed him up for two years. He’s a good, honest kind of player but faces a challenge for his place from Rob Harley, as the youngster has been in good club form.

All in all, not the first choice line-up but certainly not a bad pack. However, that’s been generally true for Scotland and yet it hasn’t helped them win a game in their last seven outings.

Mike Blair and Greg Laidlaw will be the half-back pairing. Blair is Scotland’s most-capped scrum half of all-time. He’s coming to the end of his career, having just signed a one-year contract to play for relegated French team Brive next year. He’s capable of fine play but has suffered dips in form.

He’ll be hoping for a few more big scalps before his international days are over and will relish the chance against the Wallabies.

Laidlaw has actually played most of his rugby at scrum half and is the nephew of the great Roy Laidlaw, who made that position his own during most of the eighties. Greig switched to flyhalf when his club ran out of options to fill the position and ended up becoming his country’s first choice after Dan Parks retired abruptly. He doesn’t have the biggest boot but is an intelligent player.

Joe Ansbro is back in contention in the centres. He missed the Six Nations though injury and Scotland’s back play suffered accordingly – if it makes sense to say that, given the lack of tries to date. Robinson may not want to rush him back, however, and Nick De Luca could hold on to his spot. Alex Grove is being tipped for a role but there are some other combinations available. Winger Sean Lamont has filled in before in midfield, while Matthew Scott is a young prospect many see as the best choice at inside centre and Robinson has indicated a willingness to start him there.

Scotland have been unlucky with wingers. Lee Jones is the fourth player unavailable for the tour, having pulled out with an injury. The name Tim Visser might be familiar in Australia. The Flying Dutchman is in good form, is fit and is in the tour squad. He won’t be facing the Wallabies. He now qualifies for Scotland through residency but the exact date of his eligibility is June 12th.

He is allowed to train with the squad but can’t take the pitch for the fifth June Test.

Robinson could play Lamont on the wing and will have Max Evans available. Evans plays for Castres, who still have club commitments in France, but is available to Scotland under IRB rules.

At full-back, Stuart Hogg took his chance when Evans was injured during the Six Nations. He was one of the few attacking threats Scotland had during the tournament and Robinson will stick with him.

Of course, Robinson has some new input on attacking play, having hired Scott Johnson in the role of attack coach. The Australian has only a week to work any magic which doesn’t suggest he’s going to have a chance to make much of an impact. At least he has more time with the players than new defence coach Matt Taylor. Taylor is still with Queensland and may not be able to join the tour at all. His appointment is officially for next season anyway.

Robinson had planned to take 32 players on tour but that assumed there would be a match against the Waratahs. Since that fixture was cancelled, Robinson trimmed his squad to 28. Even so, 12 of those 28 are either uncapped or only got their first starts in this year’s Six Nations so it gives you some idea of how raw they are.

In particular, it means the bench won’t be packed with multi-cap supersubs, so Robbie Deans is unlikely to be out-thought on that front.

So, all in all, Scotland are bringing a solid set piece, a couple of pacy big men in the pack who enjoy the offloading game, and a handy back row with a player in Rennie who can be a real nuisance.

Their backs haven’t threatened much at international level but Scottish teams can sometimes be difficult to break down as Australia have discovered before.

The form book suggests a win for Australia even allowing for the restrictions on selection and the limited training time. It’s worth pointing out, though, that the form book wouldn’t have given Edinburgh much of a chance in this year’s Heineken Cup either. In the PRO12 league, they finished second last with a record of six wins, one draw and 15 losses.

And yet there they were, contesting a Heineken Cup semi-final against Ulster. The way they lost it was reminiscent of the Six Nations: dominating possession and territory for long stretches but failing to score points

As many as half of that Edinbugh team could end up facing Australia. If the scoring bogey remains, then the visitors will have no chance. The Wallabies would be wise, however, to keep their discipline.

If they are too eager to score early, the Scots have the players to pilfer the ball and break from turnovers which could set the cat among the pigeons.

The Crowd Says:

2012-06-03T01:06:13+00:00

Dave

Guest


De Luca is a bit of an enigma. When he burst on to the scene for Edinburgh 5 or 6 years ago, he looked like he would be the greatest scottish centre of all time. After a disastrous International debut however, he lost form and confidence for a few seasons, aswell as being moved in to inside centre, however this season hes been revitalised for Edinburgh, paying some outstanding rugby both in attack and defence. The problem is he has never been able to transmit that form to the international scene, though many of us believe that playing outside a midfield of Parks and Graeme Morrison(cant pass/wont pass) didnt help. He got carded needlessly on 2 occasions in the 6N, and there were calls for him to never wear a scotland hsirt again. However, with the emergence of Matt Scott, theres finally an option at 12 that resembles a southern hemishpere second five eighth, and their partnership has been credited as the reason De Luca is back on form. We feel this is his last chance to show what he can do for Scotland, otherwise he is ddomed to be a great club player who just doesnt have the international mentality. Few people are happy with Barclay being at 8. He is an out and out openside, and a good one at that. however, he got displaced at Glasgow by a young player in the Pocock mould and the coach, not having the stones to just drop him, moved him to 8. Unfortunately this has meant that Robinson can justify doing the same at international level, as he is one of his favourites. Dont expect much of him as an 8, he really isnt cut out to be one.

2012-06-03T00:52:59+00:00

Dave

Guest


Youre completely right, his throwing did go to pot against Ireland, but it had also been immaculate for about a season and a half before that. His throwing seems to desert him now and again for a few games at a time, but on average, Ford is a decent lineout operator.

AUTHOR

2012-06-02T11:07:06+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


Here's the Scottish team: 15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps, 1 try, 5 points 14 Joe Ansbro (London Irish) 9 caps, 2 tries, 10 points 13 Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby) 33 caps, 1 try, 5 points 12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) 1 cap 11 Sean Lamont (Scarlets) 65 caps, 8 tries, 40 points 10 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) 7 caps, 1 try, 2 conversions, 8 penalties, 33 points 9 Mike Blair (Edinburgh Rugby) 80 caps, 7 tries, 35 points 1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) new cap 2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) CAPTAIN 58 caps, 2 tries, 10 points 3 Euan Murray (Newcastle Falcons) 44 caps, 2 tries, 10 points 4 Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors) 41 caps, 1 try, 5 points 5 Richie Gray (Glasgow Warriors) 21 caps, 1 try, 5 points 6 Alasdair Strokosch (Gloucester) 25 caps, 1 try, 5 points 7 Ross Rennie (Edinburgh Rugby) 16 caps 8 John Barclay (Glasgow Warriors) 37 caps, 2 tries, 10 points Substitutes 16 Scott Lawson (Gloucester) 32 caps, 2 tries, 10 points 17 Jon Welsh (Glasgow Warriors) 1 cap 18 Tom Ryder (Glasgow Warriors) uncapped 19 Richie Vernon (Sale Sharks) 18 caps 20 Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors) 59 caps, 3 tries, 15 points 21 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) 1 cap, 1 conversion, 2 points 22 Tom Brown (Edinburgh Rugby) uncapped Robinson has made six changes from the team which lost to Italy but it's similar to the one I outined above. Jon Welsh has lost his place in the front row to Ryan Grant, who wins his first cap. Murray has won out over Geoff Cross on the other side. Barclay has been preferred at number 8 to Vernon. That was always a possibility but the weather may have tipped the balance. Max Evans hasn't made it over from France in time so De Luca lines up alongside Scott in the centres and Ansbro gets a spot on the wing rather than midfield, with Lamont also moving to his preferred position on the wing. The bench has two uncapped players and two more with only a single cap each. A quick look at a couple of forums suggests Scottish supporters like the look of the back line, despite the poor scoring stats (e.g. one try in 33 tests for De Luca). The new line-up may not be the most defensively solid but fans dearly want to see some scores. They aren't so happy with the pack, thinking it looks a bit stodgy. Opinion seems split on whether Lions prop Euan Murray is a busted flush or playing himself back into form. Barclay and Strokosch together in the back row strike some as being a bit old school but Vernon will likely inject some pace from the bench at some point. The young back rower, Harley, hasn't made the squad.

2012-06-02T09:38:05+00:00

Harry

Guest


Very sweet memories of seeing Queensland beat a full strength New Zealand at Ballymore in 1980.

2012-06-01T10:57:48+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Dastardly Scots bringing the weather with them, ey...

2012-06-01T10:49:03+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Call me Mr Pedant, but I'm pretty sure I recall the Scottish lineout going to absolute pieces in at least one game in the 6N. Was it against Ireland? Ross Ford (a converted backrower) is certainly prone to an occasional bout of the yips. On another note, would love to see Gray playing Super rugby. He is exceptional.

2012-06-01T10:34:26+00:00

p.Tah

Guest


The forecast is for rain rain and more rain.. Plus a gale

2012-06-01T06:34:34+00:00

mudskipper

Guest


the weather has turned... The Clan should do well playing on Loch Hunter Stadium, Newcastle... next wednesday night

2012-06-01T06:07:42+00:00

Jagman

Guest


Sharpe is coming first in Super Rugby for lineouts won this year with 76 wins. A good fourteen wins ahead of his closest rival. Pyle is 5th with 51 wins and Higginbotham is 7th with 45. If the hookers can throw straight the Scots might find it hard to dominate them in the line out. This year we'll see perhaps for the first time in a long time the Wallabies first choice front row and bench so I'm looking forward to how they perform against Scotland too.

2012-06-01T05:20:34+00:00

formeropenside

Guest


Announced Sunday after the Super round I understand.

2012-06-01T04:59:53+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


With 2 under subscribed teams I am hoping that both of them produce some entertaining rugby for the sold out audience in Newcastle, they deserve it. The Wallaby team should get announced today (hope rather than know) and that will give some new blood a chance to shine against some other wallabies who have not been jumping tall buildings but holding a place. I will be glued to Foxtel and looking forward to it.

2012-06-01T04:49:21+00:00

formeropenside

Guest


Nice to see a good summary of the Scots side. I only wish this was a proper tour, with a proper midweek game against the State sides. On the other hand, I suppose it is nice to remember being at the last All Blacks - Queensland match, for all a silly penalty at the end meant Queensland lost.

AUTHOR

2012-06-01T00:04:44+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


Scotland are going out expecting to play Australia. It would be a good idea for their opponents to take the field as Wallabies. I'm sure they will and they'll have every right to do so. They'll be representing their country against the best Scotland has to offer.

AUTHOR

2012-05-31T23:54:40+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


The Scots had planned to train at Manly Oval on Tuesday but torrential downpour overnight forced a switch to Pittwater Park where they trained in the rain. They'll obviously be keeping a close eye on the forecasts.

2012-05-31T23:40:39+00:00

Blinky Bill of Bellingen

Guest


Just wondering about the Tuesday weather forecast for Newcastle. If it's wet then the Scots could possibly do some damage. I don't know I'm just looking around for anything that might give them a decent chance of pulling off an upset.

2012-05-31T23:13:45+00:00

JottingsOnRugby.com

Roar Pro


100% in agreement with you Brett. The only valid counter argument I think anyone could toss up perhaps, in Australia's case, is declining to consider overseas based players. Totally understand why the ARU & NZRU do that though.

2012-05-31T22:48:22+00:00

Moaman

Guest


Exactly,Brett.Nobody is forcing Australia to select two essentially different sides.Touring teams in bygone eras played incredibly taxing schedules by today's standards.

2012-05-31T22:46:18+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Untimely, it's a fair point from our Scottish friend, too. One of the very few shining lights for Scotland during the 6Ns was their lineout, and indeed, Grey was a standout. Vernon and Denton were willing accomplices, too, but obviously Denton is missing this time around. Euan Murray remains one of the better tight heads in the world, and you wouldn't be surprised if he terrorised the Australian front row next Tuesday night..

2012-05-31T22:37:54+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Jottings, I made the point yesterday that there's absolutely no reason why this games shouldn't be classified as a full international, and that suggestions otherwise are demeaning to Scotland. The point is, the best rugby team Scotland can select on Tuesday night will be met by the best rugby team Australia can select. That’s all there is to it. It's a full international by any definition..

2012-05-31T22:35:24+00:00

Ben S

Roar Guru


Is this going to be a predominantly Reds and Force side?

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