2012 Caulfield Guineas - All Too Hard: Live updates, blog

By Justin Cinque / Expert

With three Group Ones, two Group Twos and a Group Three on the card, Caulfield Guineas Day is one of the classic days of the Australian turf. Join us for live updates throughout the afternoon as we build up to the Guineas at 4.10pm AEDT.

The $1m Caulfield Guineas (1600m, Group One, three-year olds) is a race steeped in history. The colts that finish in the placings are destined for lucrative stud careers and the race often produces a future champion.

So You Think, Weekend Hussler, Apache Cat, Lonhro, Octagonal and Mohogany have progressed from the Guineas to outstanding racing careers in the last 20 years.

And as I wrote on Thursday, the Guineas can throw up a fantastic battle. In my opinion, it is the most important three-year old race in the Southern Hemisphere.

The favourite for the Guineas is the undefeated Pierro who is chasing his ninth victory in a perfect career.

With victory the son of Lonhro will become only the second two-year old Triple Crown winner to claim the Caulfield Guineas.

If Pierro wins today, you could argue he is the most accomplished three-year old colt at this point of the Australian racing season in history.

The expectation is a Pierro victory. It’s hard to see him getting beaten. He could be the best horse in the country. He should destroy horses in his own age group.

The Gai Waterhouse-trained Sydney colt will progress from the Guineas to the Cox Plate (2040m, Group One, weight-for-age) at Moonee Valley in a fortnight, in which he is currently a commanding favourite.

The main danger to Pierro is Golden Rose (1400m, Group One, three-year olds) victor Epaulette. Epaulette is the horse that has come closest to defeating Pierro and has won his last two starts – including his latest victory over 1400m at Caulfield in the Guineas Prelude (Group Three, three-year olds).

Epaulette looked set to beat Pierro in the Todman Slipper Trial (1200m, Group Two, two-year olds) in March after racing clear of the Waterhouse colt at the top of the home straight but Pierro produced a brilliant fightback to claim a narrow victory.

Stepping up to the mile for the first time, Epaulette will be tested by the distance. He looked tired at the end of the Prelude when unconvincingly clinging on  to beat Let Go Lenni, who is also engaged here.

Awesome Bro is outside chance in the Guineas after an eye-catching third in the Prelude and could be the obvious second selection. The step-up to 1600m should suit.

The best roughie in the race, at 100/1, is clearly Carringbush Jack who was easily the second-best performance when runner-up Pierro’s dominant Stutt Stakes (1600m, Group Two, three-year olds) victory at Moonee Valley, 15 days ago.

That Stutt form mightn’t be as bad as what some people would have you believe. Carringbush Jack is the best 100/1 pop I’ve seen for a while. In saying that, I can’t see him winning. He can, however, run second.

The x-factor in the Guineas is All Too Hard. The half-brother to Black Caviar hasn’t lost in two Melbourne starts and will appreciate racing in the left handed direction.

In his latest start, the hulking chestnut was fourth against older horses in the Group One George Main (1600m, weight-for-age) at Randwick three-weeks ago.

All Too Hard’s autumn form is good enough to figure in this race. As far as I’m concerned, he is the only horse that can beat Pierro but I can’t be sure he’s going to figure.

In the Caulfield Stakes (2000m, Group One, weight-for-age, 2.50pm AEDT) Sincero and Ocean Park will fine tune their Cox Plate preparations.

Sincero was awesome in the Memsie (1400m, Group Two, weight-for-age) on the first day of spring but has always struggled at the mile and a quarter.

Four-year old Ocean Park has improved significantly this season. He backed up a spectacular first-up performance in New Zealand with a similarly brilliant victory in the Underwood (1800m, Group One, weight-for-age) three weeks ago at this track and appears a winning Cox Plate chance. He needs to win this race.

Perhaps the best roughie for trifecta players is Vatuvei, who was an eye-catching third in the Golden Nugget (1600m, handicap) at Ballarat last time. But he is also entered at Cranbourne on Sunday and may not take his place in the field today.

The winner of the VRC St Leger (2800m, Listed, three-year olds) last season, Vatuvei could be an outside local chance in a Melbourne Cup on a heavy track (if he snuck into the field). If that’s the case, he’d want be running on strongly here.

In the Toorak Handicap (1600m, Group One, 3.30pm AEDT) More Joyous will carry a staggering 60kgs against the boys. The Cox Plate fancy will conceding as much as eight kilos to some of her male rivals but appears in better shape than ever.

Reigning Toorak winner King Mufhasa must carry 1.5kgs more than the 58 he lugged last year but comes from across the Tasman in winning form, while Glass Harmonium was very strong when returning from a spell in the Clarke (1400m, Group One, handicap) 13 days ago.

The 2011 Mackinnon (2000m, Group One, weight-for-age) winner seems well weighted with 56.5.
Promising gallopes Solzhenitsyn (52kgs) and Tokugawa (52kgs) are well weighted to cause an upset.

Some of the other highlights include the Herbert Power (2400m, Group Two, handicap, 4:50pm AEDT) where Caulfield Cup (2400m, Group One) aspirants will be hoping to sneak into next week’s $2.5m handicap with victory.

International raider Gatewood comes from England for John Gosden and is high up in my Cup calculations, while Excluded, Mr O’Ceirin and Bianmick must win if their fruitful campaigns are to allow them a shot at the first major the season.

Exceptionally, who was scratched last week, will be looking to continue her path towards a possible Melbourne Cup berth also.

The day’s other highlight is the Schillaci (1000m, Group Two, weight-for-age, 2.15pm AEDT) over the short-course. The race, won by Black Caviar last year pits Australia’s best second-tier sprinters against each other.

Buffering is the best horse in the country yet to win a Group One but will need to overcome the challenge of rising star Pampelonne if he is to claim successive Group Two victories this campaign.

The Crowd Says:

2012-10-14T00:43:21+00:00

noel mckenna

Guest


the main talking point about Caulfield meeting from yesterday should be Nash Rawiller's riding with the decisions he made all be it in a split second and also what seems to be Gai Waterhouse's obsession with her horses being in the lead or on the pace. When the tactics work as in the Epsom and Metrop. last week she is a genius and she spends all week telling us Pierro is the best horse since Tulloch, if it had won it would have been the best horse in the world. Gai i remember you telling us Manhatten Rain was the best, Sebring also the list is endless. The truth is Nash IS OFF HIS GAME A BIT. Tommy Berry is on his game and gets taken off after winning 2 group ones. Group ones are not easy to win and the ride on Pierro smelt of arrogance which is fed by Gai and her endless praising of HER horses.

2012-10-13T06:36:38+00:00

Bondy.

Guest


Well done mate.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T06:24:17+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Catch us again on The Roar.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T06:24:00+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


So that's it from me today. Thanks for joining us.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T06:21:32+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


So what a day we've had. Ocean Park firmed in Cox Plate markets with victory in the Caulfield Stakes. More Joyous (fourth) and Pierro (second) eased. Both were defeated as favourite Solzhenitsyn and Buffering gave Robert Heathcote a famous feature-day Group double with victory in the Toorak and Schillaci respectively. In the Caulfield Guineas, All Too Hard caused an upset by beating the short-priced undefeated Pierro, in a memorable clash. Finally, Shahwardi moved into the Cups picture with a strong come-from-behind victory in the Herbert Power. He's in next week's Caulfield Cup if de Royer Dupre so chooses.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T06:17:59+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


No luck Bondy

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T06:14:03+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


French-trained galloper Shahwardi has charged into the Cup calculations with an exciting win in the Herbert Power at Caulfield today. Having his first start in Australia after arriving from Europe on AFL Grand Final Day, the seven-year old stallion produced a brilliant turn of foot to ensure his place in next week's Caulfield Cup (2400m, Group One, handicap). Shahwardi overpowered the locally bred and trained pairing of Excluded and Exceptionally - both of which were searching for victory needed to qualify for the Caulfield and Melbourne (3200m, Group One, handicap) Cups respectively - to win well. Shahwardi had shown form in the 2012 European season over much longer journeys than the 2400m he faced today but all his previous victories were between 2200 and 2400m. Settling back in the field, Shahwardi and jockey Kerrin McEvoy profited from a fast gallop set by leader I'm Jake. The Alain de Royer Dupre-trained galloper made a long run around the field, with the Team Williams horse Excluded, before coming clear in the final 100m to record a strong victory. Exceptionally, who was badly positioned in the ruck, ran on fast for for third, while there was plenty of merit in the run of Ironstein in fourth. Ironstein was first horse to finish of those that raced next to the speed. Meanwhile, well supported favourite Gatewood could only manage sixth after having little luck. The John Gosden -trained English five-year old needed to win to guarantee a spot in the Caulfield Cup but his chances ended when he was shuffled back on the home turn. Gatewood's run was still very good and we may see him again before Melbourne Cup Day; in the Geelong Cup (2400m, Group Three, handicap), as he bids to qualify for the great handicap. Herbert Power (2400m, Group Two, handicap) First Shahwardi (SP $15) Second Excluded ($7) Third Exceptionally ($7.5) Fourth Ironstein

2012-10-13T06:11:58+00:00

Bondy.

Guest


Not a good result for punters today one would think. I backed Gatewood blocked for a run all day.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:58:35+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


This horse Shahwardi has surprised me a bit. He was beaten by seven lengths by Simenon at Royal Ascot. Simenon hasn't set the world on fire since. But that is some win. He was brilliant there. Excluded was very good. Exceptionally was very good. As was Ironstein, the only on-pacer left standing and Gatewood was so unlucky in sixth. He was dragged back to last at the worst time.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:56:29+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


The winner Shahwardi is a stablemate to Americain.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:55:22+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


There's a big story Shahwardi the Eruo Raiders takes it. A big Cups player Excluded is second. Photo third. Either Exceptionally or Ironstein. They went so hard. Everything ran on! Exceptionally should get third. Gatewood no luck whatsoever.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:53:19+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Mr O'Ceirin is up there. Not much change in the Power.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:52:51+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


SO they're racing in the Power Good pace set by I'm Jake. Gatewood is midfield. Excluded ridden cold today. Exceptionally last. Ironstein for YT is fourth.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:50:19+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


It's been some Guineas Day If you've unsure - Snitzerland Buffering won early for the punters. The G1s went to Ocean Park (Caulfield Stakes), Solzhenitsyn (Toorak), All Too Hard (Guineas). A few favourites and some upsets. We won't forget it. What a day.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:49:10+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Behind the barriers for the Herbert Power

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:47:30+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


I'm tipping Ironstein to win here. I've got Gatewood for second and Exceptionally for third. This historically isn't the best Caulfield Cup guide but there are some very good stayers engaged here. Gatewood, an English horse, can win a big race this spring. He needs to win today.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:44:54+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


The winner of this race is guaranteed their place in the $2.5m handicap.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:44:02+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


The runners are moving onto the track for the Herbert Power over 2400m at G2 handicap. These horses need to win to make their way into the Caulfield Cup next week.

2012-10-13T05:42:05+00:00

Bondy.

Guest


I agree Justin.

AUTHOR

2012-10-13T05:39:31+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Nash Rawiller about Pierro: "I thought his run was massive. Full credit to the winner on the day. [Pierro] had the race in his keeping... He was a touch dour. It took a good horse to run him down. I know that" A little perplexed.

More Comments on The Roar

Read more at The Roar