Queensland’s Origin demise begins now

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    Queensland player Brent Tate punches NSW player Greg Bird in the head during State of Origin 3 at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Wednesday, July 4, 2012 (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)

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    Do not be fooled by your calendar. It might be October, but you can guarantee that New South Wales Blues coach Laurie Daley has already begun planning the mighty Queenslanders’ demise.

    On the verge of a historic eighth consecutive series win, the Maroons need to be stopped. They have to be.

    The 2012 series proved the Blues could go with the champions. They were closer than they have been in many years and the torment of Cooper Cronk’s field goal in game three would still haunt the likes of Paul Gallen and Luke Lewis.

    Daley will have depth and plenty of talent to choose from next year.

    Robbie Farah’s rise to Origin level gives the Blues another leader alongside Gallen, Lewis and Glenn Stewart. You can add Mitchell Pearce, Jarryd Hayne and Greg Bird to that leadership group.

    These men are the foundation moving forward. You can’t question any of these guys or their motivation. They despise Queensland and are desperate to taste series success.

    Don’t forget Kurt Gidley either.

    You have two firebrands in the engine room that can match and dominate the middle third. James Tamou and Tim Grant are long term front rowers and are here to stay.

    Then there are the game breakers. The guys that can win a game with one play.

    Men like Tony Williams, Akuila Uate and Josh Morris. X-Factors who can do serious damage to an ageing Queensland outfit.

    If Todd Carney can find his feet, the Blues have a legitimately dangerous outfit.

    But who else out there can make a difference for the Blues?

    Coach Daley will not shy away from picking someone he thinks can do a job. Rather than his predecessor who believed only certain players had “Origin grit”.

    Ryan Hoffman’s resurgence gives NSW another fringe attacker. After winning the 2012 premiership with the Melbourne Storm and then gaining Australian selection, Hoffman should be one of the first picked for the Blues.

    This might finally spell the end of Ben Creagh’s representative career.

    Someone else who should seriously be considered is the enigmatic New Zealand Warriors backrower, Feleti Mateo. For far too long Mateo has been ignored by selectors.

    Mateo on his day is the most dangerous backrower in the National Rugby League.

    State lines have been divided once more after Saturday night’s Test match where Queensland players sang their team song despite wearing the green and gold of Australia.

    Former NSW halfback Tommy Raudonikis added his two cents.

    “But what the Queenslanders seem to forget is that the tide, it’ll turn,” Raudonikis told TheTelegraph.com.au.

    “And it’s a bloody quick fall from the penthouse.”

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    • October 19th 2012 @ 6:20am
      Andy said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:20am | ! Report

      “Queensland’s Origin demise begins now.” Unlikely, NSW would be lucky to win a series at the moment. Having Laurie Daley as coach is a big risk, inexperienced is the first word that comes to mind.

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        October 19th 2012 @ 6:52am
        peeeko said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:52am | ! Report

        i have no faith in Laurie Daley what so ever- gee i hope i am wrong

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        October 19th 2012 @ 6:56am
        steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:56am | ! Report

        Andy Daley had talent to burn , he was coached by some of the best , you don;t think he picked up a bit along the way , you can’t deny his passion , he has some of the best footy players in the world to chose from , all he has to do is get them playing for each other , and we could see a whole new NSW side . Sticky got us close and i think Daley will get us the prize ..

        • October 19th 2012 @ 8:48am
          Andy said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:48am | ! Report

          If Craig Bellamy could not win Origin for NSW, then what chance does Laurie Daley have? Even Ricky Stuart had the coaching job full time and failed.

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            October 19th 2012 @ 9:02am
            steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:02am | ! Report

            Sticky failed we lost by one point ,oh please …

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              October 19th 2012 @ 10:35am
              Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:35am | ! Report

              Bellamy didnt put the time into it like Stuart has or Daley will.

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          October 19th 2012 @ 11:23pm
          peeeko said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:23pm | ! Report

          agree steve, he has the passion and was a great player. it just seems to me that every NRL team that Daley has been involved as a consultant coach have performed poorly. saying that Mal had a very average record as an NRL coach as well and had admitted he is not up to being an NRL coach

    • October 19th 2012 @ 8:21am
      oikee said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:21am | ! Report

      “Behold His Mighty Hand” . Said Moses as he parted the red sea. 🙂
      Someone throw Tommy a packet of Cigarettes, fancy Queenslanders singing the yipper yi song in there own backyard. Gee whiz, break out the cannons, dust off the spitfires and mustangs, this is war. 🙂
      I was reading the latest league weekly yesterday Curtis,,,,, Barber Cronk Slater Thurston Smith and Inglis top 6 out of the 100 players.

      With Scott, Papalii, Taylor,Myles, Shillington, i dont think Queensland will be taking the foot off the gas anytime soon. I was also looking at our young talent coming through, all looking good for the future as well, it won’t be getting any easier for Laurie thats for sure.

      We also have some good talent in the junior kiwi team as well i noticed, that’s in QLD i think. New Zealand. 🙂
      You cant beat us, join us brother, the Kiwis have. 😉

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        October 19th 2012 @ 8:33am
        steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:33am | ! Report

        oikee i don’t think it has anything to with where it was played it has to do with the colour of the jersey and it wasn’t maroon mate !!

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          October 19th 2012 @ 10:37am
          Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:37am | ! Report

          I’m not worried about Scott, Taylor, Myles etc if the Smiths and Thurstons arent the players they were. Those guys you mentioned are good players (and all forwards). The Blues can out muscle these guys.

          • October 19th 2012 @ 10:45am
            planko said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:45am | ! Report

            Curtis the last 2 season’s they have been the better team. Oikee you mentioned 5 players in the forwards… 3 of them would not even play first grade for Penrith. Taylor gets sorted whenever souths plays a real team. Papali will get sorted by all next season but would love to see him get selected for QLD and even Shillington I dont understand why he keeps getting selected I prefer the polar bear myself.

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              October 19th 2012 @ 2:25pm
              matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:25pm | ! Report

              agreed about shillo, sheens seems to love him. id rather hannant or gal playing prop again

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            October 19th 2012 @ 2:24pm
            matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:24pm | ! Report

            but thurston and smith are still they players they are

      • October 28th 2012 @ 9:45pm
        Ra said | October 28th 2012 @ 9:45pm | ! Report

        i think kiwis are saying, you cant beat us on your own buster, neither can the blues, and we aint scared to take you both on at the same time – so we do, and without all the bonding time you have to yourselves too – you shoud be ashamed of yourself coming on here and gloating. You only play one team, and you need Kiwis and PI’s to do that – go away, and dont pipe up again until you’re ready to take on the Black n Whites – and all by yourselves too, without our bro’s

    • October 19th 2012 @ 8:56am
      jamesb said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:56am | ! Report

      those storm players are slowly getting older. JT the same.

      are they still hungry?

      Remember only one point separates the two states.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 9:18am
        Media Beatup said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:18am | ! Report

        And 7 straight series.

        • October 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm
          Jamesb said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm | ! Report

          Only referring to the 2012 series

    • October 19th 2012 @ 8:59am
      Mals said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:59am | ! Report

      As long as Mitchell Pearce is the Blues no.7 sadly I cannot see the Blues winning a SOO series.

      If Daley can be an effective “man manager” he will be fine as the Blues coach. Daley can have a technical (assistant) coach to help fill knowledge gaps much like Meninga has done with Hagan.

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        October 19th 2012 @ 9:10am
        steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:10am | ! Report

        Mals i really can’t see Pearce being their next year !!

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          October 19th 2012 @ 10:38am
          Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:38am | ! Report

          Who will be halfback then? Picking Pearce in the first place would have been a waste of time. Give them another shot.

          • October 19th 2012 @ 12:15pm
            steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:15pm | ! Report

            i would give that young Renolds from Souths a go .

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              October 19th 2012 @ 12:36pm
              Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:36pm | ! Report

              Lets see how he goes in Year 2 first.

              • October 20th 2012 @ 12:10pm
                Stanley Bridge said | October 20th 2012 @ 12:10pm | ! Report

                I wish you were a selector. Pearce is way out of his depth in Origin. Losing Pearce won’t affect the Blues negatively, while excluding Reynolds from the Blues will eg Bunnies finals loss.
                Alfie, Ikin, Fittler, Slater, Inglis, Hancock were all thrown in early to the Origin arena so that is not an excuse for Reynolds non-selection. People who think Pearce is the only option aren’t really looking for other options.

          • October 19th 2012 @ 1:49pm
            db swannie said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:49pm | ! Report

            Curtis ,how many chances do you want to give him?.
            Pearce is the most overated 7 in the game,& NSW have no hope with him at HB.
            Three day old road kill has more creativity.,Yet LD will pick him..
            As a QLDER ,please do.
            & Uate is a liability.Great in attack ,but defensively is hopeless reading play.
            He might score a try,but will let in Two.

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            October 19th 2012 @ 2:26pm
            matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:26pm | ! Report

            i thought pearce was roosters best player towards end of the season, definitely stepped up after the origin series. id keep him and give the two reynolds another year to prove themselves. plus combination with carney is important

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              October 19th 2012 @ 4:57pm
              Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:57pm | ! Report

              One more series for Pearce

              • October 20th 2012 @ 2:14pm
                ceboss said | October 20th 2012 @ 2:14pm | ! Report

                Hohw the hell you would like to see pearce given another year i will never know, he bring absolutely nothing to the team and our structure always falls apart when things arent going right. Just about everyone from NSW has been dropped from there positions in a bid to figure out what will work in the last few years apart from Pearce. Its always been him, and as long as he is in the team we are stuffed cause he is in the most important position and you can see the same thing with the attacking structure falling apart with Roosters.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 9:13am
        eagleJack said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:13am | ! Report

        I think it’s only fair that for next year’s series we give QLD Pearce and we take Thurston.

    • October 19th 2012 @ 9:01am
      Tigranes said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:01am | ! Report

      Maybe the best hope for NSW is to wait for Thurston, Smith, Cronk, Slater and Inglis to retire…

    • October 19th 2012 @ 9:59am
      Dayer said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:59am | ! Report

      Sorry NSW boys … no hope next year. Maybe the following year when the maroons get sick of winning.
      Winning by a point or by 100 points is irrelevant because the bottom line is, it’s still winning.

      Last year was last year, it is history so next year is the future and I hate to say it but it’s EIGHT “ball” for the Mighty MAROONS.

      gOOD LUCK nsw

      • October 19th 2012 @ 12:26pm
        steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:26pm | ! Report

        And if we do win what will you say then oh but we have won 7 in a row . Dayer your right about one thing last year is over and next is a whole new ball game , don’t count your chickens before they hatch .

        • October 19th 2012 @ 2:38pm
          Not Inerterested said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:38pm | ! Report

          “don’t count your chickens before they hatch”

          Like NSW did before the thrid game this year?

        • October 19th 2012 @ 7:04pm
          Dayer said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:04pm | ! Report

          “And if we do win what will you say then oh but we have won 7 in a row”

          No I wont make excuses, I will write down ” About bloody Time’ and also blame the refferees like the NSW media does. LOL

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