Sydney derby gives fans reasons to rejoice

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    If last weekend was one of the most significant in Sydney club football history, what does that make tomorrow’s Sydney derby at Parramatta Stadium?

    The clash between Western Sydney Wanderers and Sydney FC is already sold out.

    Around 3,000 away fans will be wedged into a sky blue-coloured corner, with the rest of the crowd expected to paint the Parramatta Stadium stands red and black.

    Never before has there been such anticipation for a domestic club game in Sydney.

    There’s symmetry between the two sides with former Sydney FC defender Tony Popovic now in charge of the Wanderers โ€“ who also signed Michael Beauchamp, Shannon Cole and Mark Bridge from the Sky Blues during the off-season.

    Both sides are hungry for a win, with the Wanderers collecting a point from their first two A-League games, while Sydney FC have started the season with back-to-back defeats.

    Last week Fox Sports’ โ€˜hero cam’ was tuned in on Alessandro Del Piero, this week it will focus on the Wanderers’ marquee man Shinji Ono.

    Whichever way you look there are subplots and counterpoints, yet the most salient point of all is that supporters simply want to see a Sydney derby in the A-League.

    Football fans in the harbour city have waited a long time for this and hopefully the game itself lives up to its star billing.

    The build-up hasn’t been without its quirks, but then it would hardly be the A-League without them.

    A Football Federation Australian online poll aimed at giving the clash an official moniker went down like a lead balloon with fans, who are clearly intent on simply calling the contest โ€˜the Sydney derby.’

    More troubling though are the rumours security company Hatamoto is considering keeping Wanderers fan group the Red And Black Bloc inside the stadium upon completion of the match.

    Hatamoto hasn’t exactly shown itself to be too football savvy in the past and they’ve surely got the wrong end of the stick with this one โ€“ since the accepted practice worldwide is to hold away fans inside the ground until the crowd has dispersed.

    Hopefully there’s no real need to hold either set of fans inside the ground but if security measures are to be taken, let’s hope Hatamoto has some idea of what they’re doing.

    The security group has of course developed a rather poor reputation from its handling of Melbourne Victory supporters, who will surely be out in force tonight for the clash with arch-rivals Adelaide United.

    There may be two bona fide derbies taking place this weekend but the rivalry between Victory and the Reds is arguably the most rancourous in the league.

    Victory are another side desperate to put consecutive defeats behind them, but wouldn’t Reds coach John Kosmina love to put one over another ex-NSL stalwart in Ange Postecoglou?

    On the topic of derbies though, it would be remiss not to discuss in a bit more depth the F3 showdown between the Newcastle Jets and the Central Coast Mariners.

    The Jets are expecting a big turnout at Hunter Stadium and they may well need it if Nathan Tinkler’s growing financial problems are anything to go by.

    Hopefully Tinkler’s money woes don’t affect the squad, who should be buoyed by their dramatic 3-2 win over Sydney FC last Saturday.

    But though the F3 derby is always a keenly anticipated affair, A-League fans could be forgiven for directing most of their attention towards Sydney’s west on Saturday night.

    Melbourne led the way, but now it’s Sydney’s turn to revel in the drama of an intracity derby.

    Twelve months ago this fixture seemed little more than a pipedream.

    Now it’s here and it promises to be another enthralling chapter in what has been a dream start to the 2012-13 A-League campaign.

    Mike Tuckerman
    Mike Tuckerman

    Mike Tuckerman is a Sydney-born journalist and lifelong football fan. After lengthy stints watching the beautiful game in Germany and Japan, he settled in Brisbane, and has been a leading Roar football columnist from December 2008.

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    • October 19th 2012 @ 3:31am
      mack said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:31am | ! Report

      They aren’t rumours. They were the plans given to the RBB by Hatamoto. Thankfully with the negative media coverage and spotlight placed upon them in various outlets they have relented and the have told us that we have the ‘choice’ to decide when to leave. of course it remains to be seen if they will actually follow through on their words. History suggests not.

      Either way, it will create confusion and cause trouble. The only minor trouble against Central Coast was people outside the RBB (bought memberships near the away bay) who attempted to start fights with the Mariners supporters.

      Was there any security in Albert Park after the match? No.
      Was there any police in Albert Park after the match?

      It took about 15 minutes for any police to come to the park (despite being only a hundred meters from the ground). It was the RBB itself that had to self-police (in a way, since they weren’t in the RBB but were WSW ‘supporters’).

      If those idiots show up again, and are let out at the same time as the Cove, what do you think will happen when all the guards and police are focused on keeping the ‘psycho wogs’ locked in their bay? Carnage.

      Hatamoto are the Enemy Of Football. They rank above Tom Smithies and Rebecca Wilson. Those two can only create fake, ignorant anti-football articles after the fact.

      Hatamoto are the reason why many of those articles can be written.

      Because they have no idea about football and treat the fans like the terrorists the wannabe ASIO spies and thug try-hard rejected by the Police jackbooted goons that work for Hatamoto wish they were fighting.

      The first thing Gallop needs to do if he does takeover is cancel the Hatamoto contract.

      They have done nothing to improve safety, and they destroy the atmosphere that is unique to football.

      The only thing Hatamoto have done well is increase their bank balance.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 9:22am
        Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:22am | ! Report

        Hatamoto sound like a mysterious martial arts gang,much like The Foot in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 10:23am
        Evan Askew said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:23am | ! Report

        Agree with everything you have said but I don’t think Tom Smithies is an enemy of football. He is a football writer that works ffor an organisation that reports football badly. But if merely working for the daily telegraph means your an enemy of football then we would also have to put Robbie(Voldemort) Slater and Mark Bosnich in that category too, despite their numerous socceroo caps.

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        October 19th 2012 @ 11:33am
        Atawhai Drive said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:33am | ! Report

        Tom Smithies an Enemy of Football? What a truly bizarre thing to suggest.

        The Daily Telegraph devoted four open (i.e. no ads) pages to football this morning, plus half the back page. Most of it was worth reading.

        But I agree that David Gallop should look at cancelling the Hatamoto contract. Hatamoto don’t have a clue.

        • October 19th 2012 @ 11:50am
          Bondy. said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:50am | ! Report

          I think the DT arent doing to badly with us, i’ve gone back there recently.

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            October 19th 2012 @ 4:36pm
            Cappuccino said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:36pm | ! Report

            Yeah, and the Telgraph website is finally calling it football, rather than “soccer”.

    • October 19th 2012 @ 3:40am
      Johnno said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:40am | ! Report

      What about the old Parramatta Melita derby VS Marconi in the old NSL .

      -What about Marconi VS Sydney Croatia match , or Marconi VS Apia Leichardht, .Or the old Parramatta Melita derby VS Marconi in the old NSL . . They were massive matches.

      -Or when former soceroo Foz’s Northern Spirit , an ageing 30 year old Foz coming back from Europe , came back to show what aussy fans had been missing out on. The Northern spirt matches north sydney Oval got some big crowds, and bIg interest. I remember back in the day when all my mates would hop in the bus and cross the bridge and go to North Sydney Oval to watch Foz and the spirt do his stuff.

      -This will be massive derby match too. But with any derby I think we should be cautious . Rome was not built in a day. the wanderers are the new kids on the block. And we should be patient to see if this derby sells and lives put to the hype like the old NSL derbies which were great and lots of hype. The Melbourne croatia vs South Melbourne Hellas match was massive , as is now the Victory VS Heart. The sydney NSL derbies as shown above were massive. I think this sydney derby will be massive and can’t wait too.

      -And I think West sydney entrance even more than Del Piero’s arrival , has reigned the A-league. West sydney is the soccer’s’ true heartland if based not eh number of true football people in Austalia live and are from. Men like Branko Culina, Mark Bosnich, Spider Kalac, Harry Kewell, Mark Schwarcher, Jason Culina, and west sydney coach Tomy Popovic, are to go by and there is many more names I could add so easily , as there are so many. But in a way having west sydney the biggest football heartland and population centric of an area, has been the icing on the cake for Frank Lowy’s dreams of the A-league, . It now feels even more complete with west sydney wanderers, and is helping end the war between old football NSL and new football the A-league.

      And Frank Lowy being the westifeld guy knows. west sydney well, he spent a lot of his time in west sydney in his childhood. As Frank Lowy emigrated here after world war 2 wasn’t rich, he worked hard.. And he was an old NSL man to as president of Hakoah.
      So emmigrating to Australia after WW2 from Europe after the war he was a true old NSL man, but also had a new vision for multicultural Australia to. And that was the A-league. So thank you Frank Lowy for sacking Frank Farina and getting one of the best if no 1 no 1 coach in the world at the time Guss Hiddink, to get us into the world cup in 2006 with a little help from Johnny Alosi and Swarcher.
      But hats off to Frank Lowy and Hiddink ultimately the most for giving us the crow platform to make the A-league what it is today. Going to be a good Sydney derby. West sydney 2-1. And some say west sydney will be bigger than collingwood or the Brisbane Broncos one day. Well they certainly have the core foundations to achieve that no question, and are slowly uniting all the old NSL state league teams in west sydney to get behind them, despite a little crowd trouble early pre-season i think the old NSL teams are behind the west sydney wanderers overall, I hope it lasts. And I hope Parammatta eels fans are cool with everything and the Ray Price statue stuff at Parramatta stadium and they support the match too, and it doesn’t overshadow this massive and historic big local derby tomorrow night

      • October 19th 2012 @ 7:14am
        Atawhai Drive said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:14am | ! Report

        Johnno! You didn’t get in first!

        What happened, son?

      • October 19th 2012 @ 12:24pm
        James said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:24pm | ! Report

        What a rant. So boring and poorly written…

    • October 19th 2012 @ 5:42am
      Bondy. said | October 19th 2012 @ 5:42am | ! Report

      One would suggest that in playing style and fluidity the Wanderers should beat Sydney F.C “another landmark moment for Australian Football’ with our first major derby.

    • October 19th 2012 @ 6:49am
      MV Dave said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:49am | ! Report

      Looking forward to see how Sydenee put on their Derby…with a packed out ground it should look and sound great. Lets hope the coaches and players can do their bit to put on an entertaining and exciting contest with some goals. One each form ADP and Ono would be a good start…perhaps getting a little greedy.
      Anyway the big game is down at Etihad where the MV will win their first game of the season against AU 2-1 ๐Ÿ™‚
      BTW congratulations to Danny Allsop for his career at MV over the years…will never forget his cracker against AU in the semi at a packed Etihad in 2007 which put MV back in the match and ultimately on the road to the GF. Well done Danny and thanks for the goals and loyal service…

    • October 19th 2012 @ 7:37am
      chris said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:37am | ! Report

      It’s lovely going to some countries who don’t breathe the worldwide monster Soccer down yer neck.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 7:48am
        Bondy. said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:48am | ! Report

        Its a monster all right a giant. Football stops for nobody.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 7:53am
        Marc said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:53am | ! Report

        Enjoy that holiday in Port Moresby ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • October 19th 2012 @ 9:26am
        Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:26am | ! Report

        Chris are you trying to get away from soccer?,you could probably start by not reading soccer stories.

      • Roar Guru

        October 19th 2012 @ 12:51pm
        Peter Wilson said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:51pm | ! Report

        Which country is that Chris?
        Can’t think of any country where football isn’t popular.

        Rather than “breathing down your neck”, there is genuine interest in the A-League right now.

      • Roar Guru

        October 19th 2012 @ 1:00pm
        Fussball ist unser leben said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:00pm | ! Report


        I’ve been told SOCKAH isn’t big in Strayia? Are you trying to tell us SOCKAH is breathing down your (red)neck in Strayia?

        Sporting landscape in Stayia is really changing – Johnny Warren “told us so”

        • October 19th 2012 @ 4:49pm
          Damiano said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:49pm | ! Report

          Fuss, it sounds like you are channelling Chips Rafferty.

          • October 19th 2012 @ 10:33pm
            Ian Whitchurch said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:33pm | ! Report

            Which is a plus, as he usually sounds like Fussball.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 1:58pm
        Bondy. said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:58pm | ! Report

        Chris are you ok because everybody here disagrees with you.

      • October 19th 2012 @ 3:21pm
        Wanderer said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:21pm | ! Report


        Is that better?

    • Roar Guru

      October 19th 2012 @ 7:37am
      TomC said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:37am | ! Report

      ‘A Football Federation Australian online poll aimed at giving the clash an official moniker went down like a lead balloon with fans, who are clearly intent on simply calling the contest โ€˜the Sydney derby.โ€™’

      Thank God.

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