Verbeek predicts tough times for Socceroos

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    Former Socceroos coach Pim Verbeek has painted a grim picture for the future of the national team and says there should be serious concern about about the quality of the next generation of players.

    Verbeek, who led Australia to the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, said replacing aging stars like Tim Cahill and Harry Kewell would be successor Holger Osieck’s biggest challenge as they build towards the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    But the Dutchman believes the talent pool may not be there and that it could take another generation for Australia to rebuild.

    In an interview with Qatari sports website Doha Stadium Plus, Verbeek, now Morocco’s under 21s coach, said a dwindling youth talent pool was one of the reasons he did not stay in the job after the World Cup, along with the gruelling travel schedule.

    “Working with the Australian national team is a really tough job because you’ve got to fly all over the world,” Verbeek said.

    “Your players are in Europe, Asia and Australia. So I seriously got problems with jetlag. Physically, it was a tough job.

    “Second, if you see the performance of their youth teams at the moment, it isn’t that encouraging.

    “In the third round of the 2012 Olympic Games qualification, they (the Olyroos) played six games, but couldn’t score a single goal.

    “If that’s the future of Australian football, then you would be seriously worried about that situation.

    “That’s the kind of difference between the generations.

    “The current crop of youngsters prefers to stay at home and play in the A-League, unlike in the past when the boys used to get to Europe in their teens and develop there.”

    Asked about suggestions from Osieck that Australia’s young talent stocks were getting thin, Verbeek agreed.

    “That was one of the things I always said when I was in Australia. But it’s a difficult thing to say because the people in Australia are very proud,” he said.

    “They’re proud of the A-League. There’s nothing wrong with the league as such.

    “… The A-League is OK and players like Alessandro Del Piero want to come there. But if you look at the quality and development of youngsters, that’s tough.

    “I’m afraid, it’ll take at least a generation to change.”

    Verbeek led the Socceroos from 2007 to 2010 and achieved strong results before Australia failed to progress beyond the group stage in South Africa.

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    • October 26th 2012 @ 2:55am
      Bee Bee said | October 26th 2012 @ 2:55am | ! Report

      I respect Pim’s opinion. He would know. But I sure hope there is a generation of young hungry players out there who want to prove him wrong. Whether they are in the A-League or struggling to get of the pine somewhere in Europe. Please prove Pim wrong. In summary I shall finish with a poem.

      There once was a man called Pim
      Who found our nation less pleasant than a cold dim sim.
      His but got sore from sitting on a plane
      His press conferences were bland and extremely mundane
      And he found our talent pool to be far too slim.

      • October 26th 2012 @ 5:37pm
        Goanna said | October 26th 2012 @ 5:37pm | ! Report

        Pim is 100 percent spot on, but I fear even worse. You just never see kids out on the streets and in the parks after school kicking balls around anymore. They are all on their computers and consoles nowadays in doors. You don’t see kids out of doors in most developed nations nowadays because of the same reasons. To get really good at something you need to spend 10,000 hours on it they say. You cannot do that inside on a computer playing Pro Evo or Fifa.

        You can have all the greatest coaches, the best fields, clubs, you name it but without hour upon hour of practice you won’t get good. It is as simple as that.

    • October 26th 2012 @ 3:38am
      Johnno said | October 26th 2012 @ 3:38am | ! Report

      Totally agree with Pim once again. Pim’s only crime is being honest and not sugar coating stuff. And is being honest and not being a yes man a crime in 2012, in some circles of aussy soccer it seems so.
      And also let’s also have another dose in honesty and reality check. Who would you trust . An elite soccer coach who has been in soccer all his life, in a soccer country like Holland where it is no 1 sport. A man who has been part of soccer culture his whole life as an elite player and an elite coach. Guss Hiddink’s right hand man at south korea 2002 as his assistant . head coach of south Korea, and also head coach of soccer’s on his resume.
      Or would you trust some aussy mug who has had no interest in soccer, and has been totally brain washed by some sections of the media , and wouldn’t even understand anything about world football. He just thinks he knows everything coz he read it in some tabloid newspaper written by manipulative jounralists if you can call them that trying to whip up hysteria by selling newspapers.

      One thing i feel sorry about too is politicians sometimes too. yes many politicians lie as do economic experts, but when ever they make points, that in theory sound tough every bogan jumps on the bagwagon in panic, and really has no idea or understanding about economics. Like in some countires if you see debt over 1 billion dollars you go wow, but in the context you have to weight it up based on how much say as a percentage of GDP for example.

      And I feel sorry for Pim how he has to deal with some bogans in OZ, who wouldn’t know or understand the 1st thing about world football, or Asutralia’s ranking or importance in the football world.

      Guys wake up,. IF Australia didn’t make another world cup for another 50 years would soccer die as a sport. LOL. Hardly.. World soccer does not need Australia or New Zealand. Never has and never will, wake up.

      How many world cups have Aust and NZ won ever in 82 years of the world cup. A big ZERO 0.
      In 82 years we have only made 3 world cups, NZ 2. The best effort being a 2nd round of 16. Big deal .
      Pim’s country Holland has never won world cup, but sure has done a hell of a lot better in world football than Aust/NZ
      1 Euro titie 1988. Made world cup gand finals including the last 1 in 2010. Also in 1974, made plenty of semi finals too eg France 98, and many euro semi finals too. Plus some of the world great clubs that have won Euro champions league titles eg Ajax, and PSV Eindhovan.

      So I think when you look at the 2 football resumes. 1 being Pim a man who has been part of elite soccer his whole life, and a regular aussy bogan or man in the street out of the 22 million population in OZ, who has never been part of football culture , other than a few cameo world cup matches jumping on the bandwagon, I know who i would trust.
      In Guss we trust, in Pim we trust. And Pim knows far more than 99.9% of aussies about football. Even Foz and Les lol.

      As the article shows Pim is very clear in his opinion with direct evidence to back up his point. Most aussy blokes in the street who have never had anything do do with soccer, just read the tabloid headline, and jump to Xenophobic conclusions with no basis or understanding and total ignorance on the subject.

      And on of the last paragraphs of the article sums up Pim the expert analysis, vs some aussy who is not even a footy fan probably a fan of another of the footy codes who has never followed soccer, hasn’t got a clue about the sport.

      Pim’s last paragrah:

      “Second, if you see the performance of their youth teams at the moment, it isn’t that encouraging.
      “In the third round of the 2012 Olympic Games qualification, they (the Olyroos) played six games, but couldn’t score a single goal.
      “If that’s the future of Australian football, then you would be seriously worried about that situation.
      “That’s the kind of difference between the generations.
      “The current crop of youngsters prefers to stay at home and play in the A-League, unlike in the past when the boys used to get to Europe in their teens and develop there.”
      Asked about suggestions from Osieck that Australia’s young talent stocks were getting thin, Verbeek agreed.
      “That was one of the things I always said when I was in Australia. But it’s a difficult thing to say because the people in Australia are very proud,” he said.
      “They’re proud of the A-League. There’s nothing wrong with the league as such.
      “… The A-League is OK and players like Alessandro Del Piero want to come there. But if you look at the quality and development of youngsters, that’s tough.
      “I’m afraid, it’ll take at least a generation to change.”

      Perfectly said Pim. Demonsrating your experience and superiority levels perfectly, to the regular aussy bogan who has no idea and attacks your expert comments. As Pim is an expert and elite football man, unlike 99.9% of people who criticise him. Well said Pim.

      • October 26th 2012 @ 5:22am
        Bee Bee said | October 26th 2012 @ 5:22am | ! Report

        Maybe I’m a Bogan, maybe I’m a yes man. Maybe I’m just sick in the head with A-League induced mania.

        But this current mob of youngsters will rise to the challenge.

        Pim maybe an expert. He maybe from Holland. He may eat stroodle for breakfast lunch and dinner. But I don’t care. I want to believe. I want to say yes we can. Because a revolution is happening. The young round ball kickers of this nation will not be underestimated any longer.

        Boo Pim. Go Australia. Kick your way to Rio in 14, Moscow in 18 and win that World Cup that should have been ours if not for the dodgey dealings at FIFA. Take Qatar 22. For it was ours in the first place.

        PS. BOOOOO Pim.

        • October 26th 2012 @ 6:03am
          Johnno said | October 26th 2012 @ 6:03am | ! Report

          Bee Bee, you are a perfect example of the points I said in my post, of why Pim is so right and such an expert, and you have no idea, and the gap in experience levels between you and Pim when it comes to soccer is like David VS Goliath. And you are little David, Bee Bee.

          To quote “But this current mob of youngsters will rise to the challenge” . is that just a given because they are from Australia, and some aussy sports fans it seems believe Australia has a divine right and is automotacially good at every sport that gets a little bit of hype and interest. LOL, dear oh dear wake up Bee Bee. We are not that important in the soccer world. We have never done anything in soccer of any significance.

          “I want to say yes we can. Because a revolution is happening. The young round ball kickers of this nation will not be underestimated any longer.” On what credible basis or evidence, Bee Bee. Our awful Olyroo Olympic campaign. You sound like Bee Bee just another fan who just thinks Australia will automatically waltz though the soccer world and will come good, simply coz we’ll come good like it is some sort of she’ll be right mate attitude , like we are just the lucky country in every sport we touch. Total nonsense Bee Bee. Showing once again why Pim being a soccer expert and form a soccer country, knows more than about soccer than 99.9% of the 22 million aussy population, including you very obviously Bee Bee.

          • October 26th 2012 @ 7:24am
            Bee Bee said | October 26th 2012 @ 7:24am | ! Report

            Dear Johnno,

            Totally agree. I know nothing of Football. Pim is Goliath. And I am not even “little” David. I am a comparitive microbe to Pim. I am under no delusions of my weight in this argument. (Microbial.) Pim was and still is a great coach.

            Heres my point. Pim’s gone Johnno. He’s in Morrocco. The going got tough and Pim got going (Too Morrocco). Instead of saying. “Wow, the juniours in this country are stinking right now, (Better fix that somehow.) Pim said, “HMMM, Morrocco looks nice, think I’ll move there.” Instead of saying “All our juniours are not developing in Europe like they used to, they are playing in that silly little A-League, What will I do?” He said. I know,” I’ll move to Morrocco and tell everyone that Australia is a lost cause for 25 years and thank God I’m in MORROCCO.”

            Instead of making the A-League the problem. How about making it the solution. If it continues to grow, then maybe some of these kids developing in the A-League will be good enough to get a starting spot on a European first division team. Instead of going there and twiddling their thumbs on the pine for months on end.

            So Johnno. Got any solutions. Because all I got is blind faith and a strange semi-delusional hope that somehow we get through this. And if that makes me a bogan little plucky Aussie. Then so be it.

            By the way. Read your ancient History. David beats Goliath in the end.

            • October 26th 2012 @ 8:59am
              George said | October 26th 2012 @ 8:59am | ! Report

              Johnno, you off your meds or something? such a hater you are!

              So in your eyes, lets give up hey, we are an insignificant country playing the world game so lets just give up!

              Denmark won, the Euro, Greece won the Euro. Iraq won the Asia Cup, 3 nations who shouldnt of won them but did.. Even the mighty NZ went undefeated in the last World Cup (the only team to do so)

              Why cant Australia believe? Why do we sit here having to read your tripe and believe you? What makes your opinion the right one whilst you lambast everyone elses? Are you Pim’s media manager?

              Pim was a clown who milked the Football community and trodded off, had no interest in growing the game or even attempting to grow, or at the very least offer solutions. He was abrasive and detrimental to the cause. Football in this country is growing, we wont see the fruits of it in our generation (im 32) but give it time, it will grow and the youth system will become stronger!

        • October 31st 2012 @ 11:59am
          mahonjt said | October 31st 2012 @ 11:59am | ! Report

          Love it! Dont agre with it all – but love it!

    • October 26th 2012 @ 4:48am
      Valleys Diehard from Brunswick st. said | October 26th 2012 @ 4:48am | ! Report

      Pims as sharp as a tack but he is no Guus. Against Germany in the previous WC it was his dire strategies that allowed the Socceroo’s to be humiliated. Sabotaging the whole campaign, by default and not playing to the squads strengths resulted in a poor sophomore effort compared to the bull-terrier spirit of the march to the Semi- finals appearance of 06. Time to move on Pim, you were good but not great. The A League is on the ascendency, just how much talent evaporated due to homesickness and untold emotional issues while living abroad? The best situation is that the middle 60% talent or so that ply their trade in Europa return to the A-League, refine their technique and then instead of the occasional tier-1 player we can poach tier-1 management. BTW: Del Piero is a God send. Thanks to Sydney FC for the recruitment of a true legend. His inclusion in the FC squad will lift the whole League, particularly the impressionable youngsters in the League who observe, practice, apply what this great master of the round ball game applies.

    • October 26th 2012 @ 5:10am
      Bondy. said | October 26th 2012 @ 5:10am | ! Report

      What Verbeek’s conveniantly removed is the fact that when we qualified for Germany and did so well playing some very decent football that was all done without a national domestic comp, thats right we finished the tournament in Germany running a competent 12 in the world all without a domestic national comp that truly is amazing and would suggest no other nation has done that.

      Verbeeks entitled to he’s oppinon but have you genuinely heard from a bloke who seems so bitter from the past,Imight point out that while Verbeek and our boys were at the world cup he was bagging the australians in he’s own press in Holland ,the guys a creep and overall lacked a sense of professionalism. Good Ridance you bore,you bored me to death mate.

      • October 26th 2012 @ 7:37am
        Bee Bee said | October 26th 2012 @ 7:37am | ! Report

        Its ironic that Pim was quoted in a Qatari sports report. Qatar………. No, I don’t think its a coincidence that Qatar enjoys reporting on the troubles in Australia.

        Booo Qatar.

        And Pim. Was all that plane travel that made your job so tough done in economy. Toughen up son.

        • October 26th 2012 @ 9:03am
          Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | October 26th 2012 @ 9:03am | ! Report

          Its a shame our Dutch friend couldn’t even bring himself to give Tommy Oar and Adam Sarota an honourable mention for making the Eredevisie best 11 of the week last week,in fact Oar has been named in that side for the last month in a league thats famous for breeding some of the best young talent in Europe.

    • October 26th 2012 @ 7:40am
      Jordan said | October 26th 2012 @ 7:40am | ! Report

      Pim should keep quiet and concentrate on Morocco rather than continually bashing us. We are paying for Pims coaching tenure now more than ever, perhaps if he had actually attempted to blood some youngsters rather than purely focusing on qualifying for the World Cup at any costs and doing so in the most dull and uninspiring way we wouldn’t be in this perceived situation where we have no young talent coming through.

      In my eyes Pim Verbeek was only ever concerned with the short term for Australian football. We have plenty of promising youngsters they just need to be given an opportunity to prove themselves.

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    • October 26th 2012 @ 8:20am
      Midfielder said | October 26th 2012 @ 8:20am | ! Report

      Pim has a point … but leaves out another bigger point…

      When our kids left to play in Europe there was no where the competition to get in… the EPL when Harry, Timmy etc was not what the EPLis today … kids from all over the world … from Asia, the Middle East & Africa in addition the South Americans players are heading off to Europe early…. its much harder to get in….

      However Pim is right that the player development in the A-League is poor …. only the Mariners & Jets [Jets only recently] have training academies … the Roar have also done some good work…

      The other not stated fact is Asian & Middle Eastern standards are lifting very quickly …

      AS always with Pim he may be correct but offers very little reasoning as to the reason why and the solutions…

      • October 26th 2012 @ 7:46pm
        Enron said | October 26th 2012 @ 7:46pm | ! Report

        I recall a young Mark Viduka playing in an earlier version of the A-league back in 1994 (?).. he then went to Croatia for a year when Man United made an offer for him, which he declined in order to go to Leeds United.

        So if local coaches are bold and pick the young guys, there is no reason we cannot uncover new talent which can succeed at higher levels.

        Agree with Pims comments about the Olyroos not being able to score a goal in 6 games.. that really is a worry.

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