'Big Blue' still the A-League's big rivalry

By Joe Gorman / Expert

From the outset Sydney FC versus Melbourne Victory was destined to become the biggest clash in the A-League.

However, considering the progress of the Melbourne derby since the arrival of Melbourne Heart, and the success of the A-League’s inaugural ‘Sydney derby’ in round three, there is a perception that rivalries may now be local, rather than national.

Rivalries and derbies are an important part of any sporting competition. For the A-League, they are vital. As the competition grows and clubs gradually become institutions, rivalries and derbies engender much needed feeling and passion. Perhaps more importantly, they attract crowds and media attention.

Indeed, the potential for another local derby was one of the driving reasons for the FFA’s support for a club in Western Sydney. Yet it is by no means the first time that Australian football administrators have looked to derbies to build the domestic competition.

In the old National Soccer League, the proliferation of small, community based clubs meant that local derbies were a feature in every state.

In 1984, after the ASF lost its major sponsor, the league even tried a new ‘conference’ format. In part it was due to the influence of the North American Soccer League, but primarily the conference system was designed to encourage regular local derbies, and above all save on travel costs.

While the intentions were good, the experiment failed badly.

Watching Penrith City take on Bankstown City in Seven Hills may have been considered a ‘derby’, but it attracted little interest within the community. Crowds dipped as low as the hundreds as clubs played out of suburban grounds.

The fact that many of the NSL clubs were based in an ethnic community as well as a geographic location did, however, add extra feeling to some of the fixtures.

Matches between Heidelberg Alexander and South Melbourne Hellas, for example, were heralded as ‘the Greek derby’, while Footscray JUST versus Melbourne Croatia or Sydney Croatia had its rivalry entrenched in incestuous, age-old Balkan politics.

The conference system was mercifully scrapped after just a few seasons, never to be resuscitated.

With the introduction of the A-League, one-team one-city became the catch-cry, and local derbies became a thing of the past. In this new environment, Sydney versus Melbourne was heralded as the new big ‘derby’ match.

Eight seasons on, with A-League expansion likely to be put on hold following the demise of North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast United, there are now four true ‘derbies’ in the A-League – Melbourne Victory versus Melbourne Heart, Sydney FC versus Western Sydney Wanderers, Central Coast Mariners versus Newcastle Jets, and Sydney FC versus Central Coast Mariners.

Each have their own distinct history, while the newest addition – Western Sydney and Sydney FC – looks promising. However, it will take a long time to topple the ‘Big Blue’, which has an eight year headstart.

To Grant Muir, one of the leaders of Sydney supporter group ‘the Cove’, playing against Melbourne Victory is ‘quite literally the biggest game of the regular season. In a successful season, beating them is the icing on the cake; in a poor season it’s a shining beacon of joy.’

Last season, the two clubs stole the headlines as high-profile Socceroos Harry Kewell and Brett Emerton returned to Melbourne Victory and Sydney FC respectively.

This week is the first of three Sydney-Melbourne clashes this season. With ex-Victory players Sebastian Ryall and Fabio Alves likely to start for Sydney, and former Sydney boy Mark Milligan the lynchpin of Melbourne’s defence, both players and fans have a point to prove in gaining first bragging rights.

Notwithstanding the history of the ‘Big Blue,’ the rivalry has its genesis in the broader social and sporting landscape.

As the two biggest cities in the country, Sydney and Melbourne hog the national spotlight, jostling for top position.

Former Prime Minister Paul Keating once quipped ‘if you’re not living in Sydney, you’re camping out’, while Melbourne intellectual Waleed Aly dismisses Sydney’s aesthetic appeal as ‘a clue to Sydney’s vacuity. Sun and beauty very rarely coexist with intelligence.’

In this context, the ‘Sydney derby’ pales in comparison. With thousands of Sydney FC fans hailing from the Blue Mountains and the western suburbs, it is too early to tell what actually divides the two clubs.

To Muir, manufacturing rivalries is a mistake. ‘These things need to take their natural course. In the end, real rivalries are about history between fans and clubs.’

The ‘Big Blue’, then, is a tangible and truly national contest with its roots in a state and city-based rivalry dating back to pre-federation Australia.

The original and the best, could there be a more appropriate rivalry in Australian football?

The Crowd Says:

2012-11-09T02:34:25+00:00

Gyruss

Guest


Biala, Where did it come from? It came from the cove themselves. It was heard from all points of the stadium. It was quite clear and a number of people in the area where I sat (Western stand) heard the same. Had it been 'f**k off wanderers* I would have copped it as part of the banter, but it was definitely 'westies' and it definitely came from where the cove where seated

2012-11-08T23:38:32+00:00

Biala Gwiazda

Guest


...except the Cove DIDN'T chant 'F**k off westies' during the derby (perhaps F**k off Wanderers, but that's hardly an issue). I'd know - I was one of them (and a westie to boot). I'm not sure where this rumour started (I suspect it was a bitter Wanderers fan or two), but it's complete tosh.

This glamour girl of the past will regain her magic. Alessandro Del Piero will make her feel like a woman again! :-) As for McFlynn? Club captain whatever... Emerton's captain now. But if he keeps leading like he did against the Mariners then they might as well give it to ADP now.

2012-11-08T23:21:21+00:00

Kasey

Guest


Ahh MC – been a while, does the positivity surrounding football and the ‘plastic HAL’ make it too hard for you to troll these days? Do you only have one search string on t’interwebz, you only drop past if somebody here mentions Melbourne and Croatia in the same post? Surely you’ve got something to add to the conversation on the impending Australian Premier League? Will Melbourne Croatia be a part of the Victorian version..what’s in it for the clubs selected?, if they are not taking part, why not?

2012-11-08T23:13:34+00:00

wisey_9

Roar Guru


hahaha I like it! definitely a confidence crisis. There's definitely a joke in there about her having too many young boys in her team too! Are you sure McFlynn isn't captain? I thought he has remained club captain even though he looks like he'll spend the majority of the season on the pine...

He's no longer captain, wisey. But that's not our only problem. Just like the somewhat enhanced auntie we do have a confidence crisis unfortunately.

2012-11-08T21:42:51+00:00

wisey_9

Roar Guru


Minister, that would be right IF Sydney FC played hot, sexy football... which they don't. Any team with McFlynn as their captain is never going to play 'the beautiful game'.

Nice work Phil. I would describe Sydney FC as the botoxed , silicone-enhanced hot auntie that you secretly fantasise about. Hah...TAKE THAT!!

AUTHOR

2012-11-08T10:09:38+00:00

Joe Gorman

Expert


maybe. I don't really know how you can say that Sydney 'haven't cared one iota' for Western Sydney though. Also, the Cove are not Sydney FC, they are a supporters group of Sydney FC. I do take your point though, it was about as silly as WSW fans singing 'f**k off Sydney'. As a side-note, the casual homophobia of the RBB was also pretty juvenile.

2012-11-08T08:27:46+00:00

Punter

Guest


Who you calling 'Gay' love?

2012-11-08T08:02:33+00:00

Bric Tamlin of the Pants Party

Guest


We're not rednecks either Mid,just really badly sunburnt on most matchdays.

2012-11-08T08:00:56+00:00

Nathan of Perth

Guest


But ye try and tell kids that today and they don't believe you!"

2012-11-08T07:46:29+00:00

MV Dave

Guest


The MV vs MH Derby is getting bigger and since it started only 3 seasons ago it has become bigger with both sides TBH, being rubbish. Imagine a Derby where the sides are fighting for top sport? MV vs SFC is a rivalry depending upon ladder positions even though l would consider it MVs 2nd biggest game. The AU rivalry is fairly one sided and a much bigger game in Adelaide than it is in Melbourne.

2012-11-08T07:35:19+00:00

MV Dave

Guest


You better let the 60,000 at Parkhead or 50,000 at Ibrox know next time they meet...

2012-11-08T07:28:47+00:00

Towser

Guest


If he had a chuckle, being brought up in Sheffield when the Steel industry was still pumping out half the worlds steel I should be rolling in the aisles. I thought palm trees wer plants growin arta muck on mi ands. Never mindt beaches,much Sheffielders wern't Sun worshippers ony soar it whent smog liftud evri Sundi aftu pub session 12-2pm.

2012-11-08T07:15:30+00:00

Nathan of Perth

Guest


"Brisbane Roar v Perth Glory – option 1 – Grand Final Rematch Derby" I think the first round took some of the poison out of the wound but I do suspect that there will always be a bit of venom in these clashes, especially whenever Berisha or Burns plays!

2012-11-08T07:14:31+00:00

Gyruss

Roar Rookie


Joe, You commented "I thought the Cove banner ‘a team for all of Sydney’ in the derby was appropriate and telling." I think you are forgetting the other half of that tale; Yes, it was a very sweet banner that sent out all the right messages. But lets be honest. Sydney FC has not cared one iota for Western Sydney. Yes, the banner read 'a team for all of Sydney' but the 'F**k off westies' chant from The Cove was much more telling indeed.

2012-11-08T07:07:39+00:00

Nathan of Perth

Guest


"Most Swans fans consider West Coast bigger rivals" Yeah, and if we lose another home game to the Bloods I should not be held responsible for the fires I may light.

2012-11-08T06:51:08+00:00

Bric Tamlin of the Pants Party

Guest


Im hoping the Glory v Roar rivalry can become something like that,its well on its way,great for the league to pretty much have a big rivalry every week.

2012-11-08T06:42:38+00:00

Bric Tamlin of the Pants Party

Guest


Simon Hill had abit of a chuckle on the weekend about the working class/blue collar title you guys have given yourself Mid,he was saying there wasn't any beaches and palm trees in the blue collar neighbourhood he grew up around in Manchester.

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