The 2013 Foxtel Cup preview

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    The AFL has announced a raft of changes to the 2013 edition of the Foxtel Cup.

    The number of teams has been reduced to ten (down from sixteen), with less qualifiers per competition making the cut. This means that instead of four matches required to win the competition it will take three.

    Qualifiers will be the top two teams from the VFL/SANFL/WAFL, the NT Thunder, the top team from the TFL, NEAFL East and NEAFL North. This should also reduce the number of blowouts.

    At the same time, there are some absolute cracker matches that will go a long way. Port Melbourne v West Adelaide, and Norwood v East Fremantle hold the most promise before the finals with none of these teams being AFL reserves sides (Werribee alone this year holds that dubious privilege).

    Prize money is also up, with competition winners now taking home $100,000 (up from $60,000).

    The competition will shift to a midweek tournament, instead of occupying a saturday afternoon slot. Matches will still have shorter quarters than normal games in order to fit into the allocated two hour broadcast slot.

    The changes evidently have suited the top SANFL clubs, as they will compete in the competition for the first time.

    New Teams
    Clubs appearing for the first time in the competition include Norwood from the SANFL (founded 1878, 28 SANFL premierships including 2012), Queanbeyan (founded 1925, 13 premierships in various leagues), Southport (founded 1961, 21 premierships – 13 in the QAFL).

    Claremont will be returning to defend their Cup title in 2013.

    The Fixture
    The Fixture will begin with qualifying rounds between the NEAFL and Tasmanian Teams, with the winners of those matches making it into the Cup proper. This is a great move after some of the blowouts from last season’s competition. Even better, these matches will be played in a legitimate home territory.

    The Qualifying rounds will be shown on Fox Sports 3.

    ■ Sat, Apr 13 – Queanbeyan v NT Thunder (Manuka, Canberra)
    ■ Sat April 20 – Southport v Burnie (Carrara, Gold Coast)

    The Cup proper shifts to a week night competition for the first time. These matches will all be shown on Foxfooty and all start at 8.35pm EST. All matches will be on a Tuesday.

    ■ Tue, May 21 – Norwood v East Fremantle (AAMI Stadium)
    ■ Tue, May 28 – Werribee v Qualifier one winner (Etihad)
    ■ Tue, Jun 11 – Port Melbourne v West Adelaide (MCG)
    ■ Tue, Jun 18 – Claremont v Qualifier 2 winner (Patersons Stadium)

    Semi finals and the final will all be held on a Tuesday night and broadcast on Foxfooty.

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    • December 4th 2012 @ 7:21am
      narrandera footy said | December 4th 2012 @ 7:21am | ! Report

      It is a shame that they don’t play the 2nd round matches at suburban ovals. That would have created a real point of difference to the AFL. Instead they will play in empty huge stadiums that cater for 50,000 people. One would be more likely to attend a couple of these matches if they were played at Norwood Oval or Arena Joondalup or Southport’s home ground etc…Ethihad stadium shouldn’t be used for VFL grand finals either- play it at Princes Park or Williamstown etc-ie cater the oval for the expected crowd.

      • December 4th 2012 @ 11:39am
        Luke REDS said | December 4th 2012 @ 11:39am | ! Report

        Completely agree with that. It’s hard to see any game being able to attract even close to enough people to make using the large stadiums. It would also help get supporters of the home team to actually go ( SANFL, VFL and WAFL clubs still get decent crowds) and give games a stronger atmosphere.

      • December 4th 2012 @ 11:50am
        Timmuh said | December 4th 2012 @ 11:50am | ! Report

        How many of the suburban grounds have TV quality lighting? Probably most of the SANFL ones, maybe some in the WAFL. Most of the VFL grounds wouldn’t have match quality lighting, much less TV quality. Lights required for TV are substantially more than for playing, which is more than required for training purposes.

        • December 4th 2012 @ 3:21pm
          Doghouse said | December 4th 2012 @ 3:21pm | ! Report

          Setup for games is significant expense so saves money by using the big grounds where a lot of the infrastructure is…

    • December 4th 2012 @ 7:48am
      Jason Cave said | December 4th 2012 @ 7:48am | ! Report

      Seeing that the main draw of the Foxtel Cup will be played on a Tuesday night brought back memories of when Channel 7 used to show the old Escort Cup live from Waverley Park (remember that place?), and we’d be watching Essendon take on Port Adelaide (the SANFL version featuring Russell Ebert and Tim Evans) on a cold and wet Tuesday night.

      • December 6th 2012 @ 4:29pm
        Strummer Jones said | December 6th 2012 @ 4:29pm | ! Report

        I think that comp was called the “NFL” back then.

        In any case, here’s North Adelaide beating Carlton in the official AFL Grand Final of 1972

        • December 6th 2012 @ 6:59pm
          Brewski said | December 6th 2012 @ 6:59pm | ! Report

          Nice footage strummer, perhaps i should not mention it but i was at the game when the ACTAFL defeated the VFL in 1980 at Manuka Oval in the ACTAFL’s finest hour, ….. i was very young !.

          Those scenes replicate the scenes after North Adelaide beat carlton in 1972.

          Dont know the crowd, but the previous year the ACTAFL GF had over 10k, pretty sure it was bigger than that, Canberra was a country town back then on reflection.

          • December 7th 2012 @ 5:36pm
            Strummer Jones said | December 7th 2012 @ 5:36pm | ! Report

            The Vics will always tell you “we didn’t really care about that game” which is complete BS!!!

            • December 7th 2012 @ 7:02pm
              Brewski said | December 7th 2012 @ 7:02pm | ! Report

              Well in their defence it was their 3rds, or so they claimed …….Jezza was Canberra’s captain coach.

              While looking for the ACTAFL and Victorian teams at the time, i stumbled on Collingwood as we have never seen them !!!!! …… Eddie must really hate this video. 🙂

          • December 7th 2012 @ 8:20pm
            TC said | December 7th 2012 @ 8:20pm | ! Report

            this wikipedia page has all the interstate games going way back:

            So on 6 July 1980, at Manuka, the ACT defeated Victoria 13.17 (95) to 11.16 (82) in front of 10,600 patrons.

            The Vics fielded 3 rep teams that weekend, with the first team taking on WA, but the remainder would have been evenly split across the other two.

            The other Vic team defeated Qld by 12 goals at the Gabba in front of 16,000 patrons.

            The Canberra game was the only one the Vics lost that weekend.


            • December 7th 2012 @ 8:33pm
              Brewski said | December 7th 2012 @ 8:33pm | ! Report

              Thanks TC, although i would be more impressed if you could find the actual playing list of the teams, i have found them previously, but can’t seem to now. 🙂

              From memory those VFL teams included many players who under normal SOO rules would have been ineligble …… plenty of WA, SA , Tassie boys playing for the VFL teams, although i stand corrected on this.

              • December 8th 2012 @ 8:45am
                TC said | December 8th 2012 @ 8:45am | ! Report


                You might recall the old grandstand at Phillip, where ACTAFL used to have its offices, and there was a large bar area upstairs, around there somewhere was a photo of the ACT team that won that day with all their names.

                Of the known VFL players, I can recall Jezza, Ian Low and Robert Anderson, but I’m pretty sure there would have been a few others.


              • December 8th 2012 @ 4:04pm
                Brewski said | December 8th 2012 @ 4:04pm | ! Report

                I remeber it well, having played at football park many times, and had a beer or 2 after some games 🙂

                My memories are of players such as Jimmy Black and Edney Blackaby, but i may be wrong, and ex VFL players who were Captain Coaching ACTAFL sides around that time such as Cowboy Neale and Paul Feltham, whom may also have been playing for the ACT.

                Maybe Tony Wynd was playing.

                Can’t find that team anywhere !!.

    • December 4th 2012 @ 8:20am
      TC said | December 4th 2012 @ 8:20am | ! Report

      Good development for the Foxtel Cup, gives it a better chance of carving out a long term niche for itself.

      The idea of the four lower level teams playing first to move on to the remaining two spots in the final 8 is a good move as well, with each being hosted at grounds used for AFL football.

      In the case of Queanbeyan vs NT, you’d have to think that will be one of the very early uses of Manuka’s new lights, which are likely to attract a BBL team to Canberra in the near future.


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        December 4th 2012 @ 10:21am
        mds1970 said | December 4th 2012 @ 10:21am | ! Report

        That date for the game in Canberra is the day of the GWS v St Kilda game. The Giants game is at 4:40pm, so presumably the Foxtel Cup is a curtain-raiser.

    • December 4th 2012 @ 10:48am
      JamesP said | December 4th 2012 @ 10:48am | ! Report

      Good to see the top SANFL clubs are now on board. Was certainly lacking in the past without adequate representation from the country’s premier state based league.

      • December 4th 2012 @ 11:30am
        Luke REDS said | December 4th 2012 @ 11:30am | ! Report

        On the subject of SANFL clubs competing I heard rumors that both Norwood and West Adelaide have been involved in a Salary cap scandal. If this is true could this result in the being booted out of the Foxtel cup. Or some other form of repercussion.

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          December 4th 2012 @ 5:30pm
          The_Wookie said | December 4th 2012 @ 5:30pm | ! Report

          West Adelaide cant afford not to try for the money.

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      December 4th 2012 @ 11:10am
      Rodney Penny said | December 4th 2012 @ 11:10am | ! Report

      Expect Norwood to thrash the living daylights out of everyone. If anyone saw the way they played this year in the SANFL, every other team should be wetting themselves.

      Haha, kidding. The new system is good and I like the idea of a playoff for the smaller clubs. I think the Foxtel Cup has relevance and should grow to become an integral part of the footy calendar.

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        December 4th 2012 @ 5:31pm
        The_Wookie said | December 4th 2012 @ 5:31pm | ! Report

        Honestly expect Claremont to win, and Norwood to play off against them.

    • December 4th 2012 @ 11:43am
      Jason Cave said | December 4th 2012 @ 11:43am | ! Report

      Maybe the Foxtel Cup should also include a 2nd division to have clubs from the VAFA, VCFL, Vic Metro, SA Amateurs, WA Amateurs to play in the Foxtel Cup.

      While the majority of the 2nd Division tier won’t be televised (with the exception of the final), it would give those clubs and leagues greater recognition within the wider AFL community.

      • December 4th 2012 @ 6:14pm
        Brewski said | December 4th 2012 @ 6:14pm | ! Report

        Don’t disagree with that.

        It would be interesting to see a top amatuer team such as Perth’s North Beach who won numerous flags under Bill Duckworth play a bottom to mid level WAFL club.