The three amigos no laughing matter

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    If the makers of the film the Three Amigos wanted to make a sequel, there is enough material featuring Kurtley Beale, Quade Cooper and James O’Connor. However this would be no comedy flick.

    The events on the weekend in Durban involving Beale are yet another alcohol-fuelled incident for this once precocious talent.

    Beale is starting to accumulate quite a rap sheet, his mate Cooper has controversy as his middle name and O’Connor is no eagle scout either – his absence, due to a hangover, from the 2011 World Cup squad announcement was embarrassing and disgraceful.

    All three are talents on the field, however their off-field exploits overshadow they’re getting extremely well paid to do – play good, consistent rugby.

    What an injured Beale was doing travelling with the Rebels to South Africa is beyond me. The guy seems to have a real problem with the drink and it must be addressed or his Wallaby career is over.

    Which leads me to this, are the Wallabies better off without these three guys?

    Logic says no, due to their ability and match winning qualities. However you could argue Beale and Cooper have not played well for two years at Wallaby level, whereas O’Connor has missed a lot of football due to injuries.

    If the Wallabies team was picked on form today, only O’Connor would merit consideration and probably only off the bench.

    My gripe with these three is that I want selfless team guys who cherish the gold jersey. These three have been mollycoddled for far too long.

    The ARU, and Deans, simply must take a firm hand, they either shape up now or the Wallabies move on without them.

    I think Cooper and Beale are in the last chance saloon, while O’Connor needs to start focusing more on football, now that he is fit. The Rebels need him, and that’s more important for his brand.

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    • Roar Guru

      March 26th 2013 @ 10:11am
      AlBo said | March 26th 2013 @ 10:11am | ! Report

      2011 is a long time ago. JOC has been head down and bum up since then and has my respect for it.

      I think the ‘three amigos’ tag is about as done as the ‘Brand’ call. Both quips should go into retirement. Kurtley is on his own in this situation and JOC and even Quade don’t deserve to be a byproduct of it.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 9:00am
        Blue Blood said | March 27th 2013 @ 9:00am | ! Report

        Really? I have friends who own bars on Chapel street where JOC lives. While out with a liver injury he was still partying hard like a play boy uni kid. Just because it hasn’t been a headline in the news does not mean that he has been in the straight and narrow.

        As for Beale: he still hasn’t resolved his last assault charge while on a late night binge when injured with the Wallabies and he goes on to assault his captain and a team mate. Rip up his contract and serve the guy some humble pie. Without rugby what would you be KB? Perhaps a harsh reality check would help. Sweeping things under the carpet hasn’t worked in the past so it is time for something new.

        Cooper I have no time for and don’t respect him as a Wallaby. Play for the Reds and then box in the off season Cooper.

        • March 27th 2013 @ 9:32am
          Bondi said | March 27th 2013 @ 9:32am | ! Report

          Well Said

    • March 26th 2013 @ 10:48am
      formeropenside said | March 26th 2013 @ 10:48am | ! Report

      What has Cooper done of late to merit “controversy”, apart from bag Deans (which in my opinion was just what roughly half of Australian rugby fans had been saying anyway)?

      • March 26th 2013 @ 11:43am
        stanley grella said | March 26th 2013 @ 11:43am | ! Report

        was involved in the nightclub punch up that beale is in trouble for.
        was in a car accident with beale & joc whilst on a night on the grog.
        bagged an aru sponsors product on twitter.
        bagged the national setup and disresepcted his peers on twitter
        turned up and got drunk with JOC & beale at a private rebels function that resulted in digbys suspention.

        but yep, he has been living pretty clean his week.

        • March 26th 2013 @ 1:05pm
          Chivas said | March 26th 2013 @ 1:05pm | ! Report

          And I include myself as a no-name roarer πŸ™‚

        • March 26th 2013 @ 4:48pm
          PeterK said | March 26th 2013 @ 4:48pm | ! Report

          qc did NOT throw any punches in the night club, so his guilt was being there?
          He was not the driver or at fault in the car accident, so his guilt was being there?

          Yes he bagged a computer game.
          Yes he was honest and was a whistle blower about the toxic wallaby set up.

          Yes he had drinks with his mates where someone ELSE got in trouble, so his guilt was being there?

          Wow a young man has drinks with his friend but does nothing wrong himself.

          • March 26th 2013 @ 5:16pm
            Jerry said | March 26th 2013 @ 5:16pm | ! Report

            “Yes he was honest and was a whistle blower about the toxic wallaby set up”

            I’m curious how you’ve come to this conclusion, seeing as not one other person involved in the Wallabies has supported his assertions.

            • March 26th 2013 @ 5:26pm
              Justin2 said | March 26th 2013 @ 5:26pm | ! Report

              Not many are going to bite the hand that feeds are they Jerry?

              • Roar Guru

                March 26th 2013 @ 5:58pm
                Jiggles said | March 26th 2013 @ 5:58pm | ! Report

                A few have privately supported him but they’re not as ‘intellectually restrained’ as Cooper, and therefore know its not a bright way to go about things.

                Cooper maybe an !di!ot at the best of times, but he tries his best to understand what is appropriate and works hard on his public image. Apart from the Deans thing last year he has kept his nose clean since he laptop.

                Beale on the other hand seems like an !d!ot and a bit of a w_nker….

              • March 26th 2013 @ 7:27pm
                Chivas said | March 26th 2013 @ 7:27pm | ! Report

                That isn’t evidence of anything. There are some who were vocally disappointed him, but that is hardly mentioned. And they didn’t speak against him to protect their jobs as some would cynically suggest. But he has kept his nose clean both on and off the field in recent times.

                As for Beale being a wker I think we all can be on the juice. It’s a tough one as I am sure we have all behaved inappriately at times and gotten falling down drunk. But in saying that I am not sure it is the best thing if you want to be a highly regarded elite athlete.

                I personally think the culture is improving, but the problem doesn’t just exist and rest with 3 players. I look at what Robbie and Smith did to change the culture at Canterbury. While both Deans and Smith drove the changes they had support from the entire organisation. In Australia it still appears to be very fractured and this is merely a symptom rather than an anomaly.

          • March 27th 2013 @ 8:12am
            stanley grella said | March 27th 2013 @ 8:12am | ! Report

            – PeterK
            qc did NOT throw any punches in the night club, so his guilt was being there?
            – QC was drunk, was ejected from one ub, refused entry to the pub that the punch up occured in and broke a girls phone. no charges were layed, but these are reported facts from the incident.

            He was not the driver or at fault in the car accident, so his guilt was being there?
            -he was recovering from injury, on a booze ban and had gone to melbourne without informing his team.

            Yes he bagged a computer game.
            -not just a computer game but a sponsor, whose money goes towards paying his and other players wages. its poor form.

            Yes he was honest and was a whistle blower about the toxic wallaby set up.
            -a whistle blower is someone that stands up for whats right.Cooper stood up in a purely selfish way. the fine he recieved and the fact he accepted it and didnt walk proves he was in the wrong.

            Yes he had drinks with his mates where someone ELSE got in trouble, so his guilt was being there?
            -he went to an official rebels club function without being invited. its more JOCs fault for inviting his mates along especially when he was captain of the team that weekend. but its not a good look for players to be drinking sponsor payed for beers at someone elses function. and yes, being present when someone else gets into trouble is bad. he is basically on probation. not being able to control the situation, remove yourself and mates from it shows a lack of leadership and judgement.

            Wow a young man has drinks with his friend but does nothing wrong himself.
            he isnt a young man, he is a representitive of his state and country on three quarters of a million dollars. he has responsability to his club, sponsors, fans, fellow players and coaches. whilst its nice to say hey, he is 24 and should be allowed to drink. its just not factual to his position within the community.

            im not saying he should be drawn and quartered or sacked or killed. just that he is responsabl for his own actions and he continues to show a lack of dicipline and judgement.

      • March 26th 2013 @ 1:02pm
        Chivas said | March 26th 2013 @ 1:02pm | ! Report

        Fair go. You can’t see the difference between a roarer making deluded abstract comments rants and a player in the team?!?

        Team culture ring any bells. Who cares what a no-name roarer thinks. The comments on hear are at best gossip with zero substance when it comes to views on what coaches do. I don’t know much but I do know what some current Wallabies think and people who have spent time with him at Canterbury to know what he did and how he did it.

        We are all somewhat ignorant which is why our opinions vary so much.i could listen to Alan Joned if I wanted to listen or read outrageous comments. Funnily enough I can also do it here.

      • March 26th 2013 @ 10:53pm
        Boomeranga said | March 26th 2013 @ 10:53pm | ! Report

        FOS – He said he wouldn’t play for us if selected. I like Quade and was glad he re-signed, but that is p1ss poor and not something that disappears by the next test match. Even if we lose, our ‘yellow’ jersey should be valued more than he did.

    • March 26th 2013 @ 10:55am
      mania said | March 26th 2013 @ 10:55am | ! Report

      joc’s been behaving. qc had that toxic rant, and beale a lot of assaults.

    • March 26th 2013 @ 11:01am
      nickoldschool said | March 26th 2013 @ 11:01am | ! Report

      In all fairness JOC and QC are doing fine. Boxing might have taught Cooper a couple of things about discipline and I think that he is on the right path.

      Same with JOC, all good. I will probably never ( I hope!) be a groupie/ fan of these two but as long as they do ok on the field and don’t ‘overbrand’ themselves I will be ok with them and try to look at what they bring to their teams and oz rugby.

    • March 26th 2013 @ 11:43am
      Royce Strauss said | March 26th 2013 @ 11:43am | ! Report

      What gives you Australians the right to call average players 3 amigos?

      • March 26th 2013 @ 11:51am
        Jerry said | March 26th 2013 @ 11:51am | ! Report

        Have you seen “The 3 Amigos” Royce? They were a bunch of Hollywood types who were all style over substance.

        The El Guapo Blacks have a plethora of weapons to defeat them in this case, so there’ll be no happy ending this time though.

        • Roar Guru

          March 26th 2013 @ 12:03pm
          AlBo said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

          Jerry, what is a plethora? I would not like to think that someone would tell someone else he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.

          • March 26th 2013 @ 12:11pm
            mania said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:11pm | ! Report

            plethora = heaps

            • March 26th 2013 @ 12:39pm
              Warren said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:39pm | ! Report

              Mania, say it sloooowwwly….

              • March 26th 2013 @ 12:49pm
                mania said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:49pm | ! Report

                warren – i typed it as slow as i could

              • Roar Guru

                March 26th 2013 @ 3:01pm
                Cattledog said | March 26th 2013 @ 3:01pm | ! Report

                πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

            • Roar Guru

              March 26th 2013 @ 12:56pm
              AlBo said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:56pm | ! Report

              Thanks mania. Just quoting a line from the movie Jerry was referring to. Plethora is a great word and underused in my opinion. This thread being the obvious exception. πŸ™‚

          • March 26th 2013 @ 12:38pm
            Jerry said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

            • March 26th 2013 @ 12:39pm
              Jerry said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:39pm | ! Report

              Everyone has an El Guapo. For some people it’s spiders, for some heights. In our case, our El Guapo is a homicidal maniac who wants to kill us. And, it just so happens that OUR El Guapo is the REAL El Guapo.

            • Roar Guru

              March 26th 2013 @ 12:46pm
              AlBo said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:46pm | ! Report

              Thanks Jerry. I fear my comment, to those unfamiliar with the movie, may have made me sound a little simple.

              What a great movie.

              • March 26th 2013 @ 1:25pm
                Jerry said | March 26th 2013 @ 1:25pm | ! Report

                And thank you for picking up on my use of plethora – I was hoping it wouldn’t go unnoticed.

              • March 26th 2013 @ 2:58pm
                Australian Rules said | March 26th 2013 @ 2:58pm | ! Report

                It’s a sweater!

    • March 26th 2013 @ 12:07pm
      Bazza said | March 26th 2013 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

      keep ’em all in the wallaby team – rugby fans from everywhere else in the world will thank you for it!

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