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    New Zealand’s Chris Pollock, South African Craig Joubert and France’s Romain Poite will referee the three Test matches between Australia and the touring British and Irish Lions, the International Rugby Board says.

    “Appointments were made by the IRB Match Official Selection Committee following a comprehensive review of performances during the recent RBS 6 Nations and other fixtures,” world rugby’s governing body said on Tuesday.

    Pollock will take charge of the first Test in Brisbane on June 22, with Joubert refereeing the second Test in Melbourne on June 29 and Poite the final Test in Sydney on July 6.

    Other referees who will take charge of matches during the tour include New Zealand-born Australian Steve Walsh, who has been appointed to the tour opener between the Lions and the Barbarians in Hong Kong, Glen Jackson (NZRU), Jaco Peyper (SARU) and Jerome Garces (FFR).

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    • March 27th 2013 @ 9:22am
      Harry said | March 27th 2013 @ 9:22am | ! Report

      All pretty good refs. So long as there is no Kraplan or Bryce Lawrence (both might be retired?) I’m happy.
      Don’t under estimate the importance – refs interpretation of the scrum and breakdown may well decide the series.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 10:24am
        joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:24am | ! Report

        “So long as there is no Kraplan or Bryce Lawrence (both might be retired?) I’m happy.”

        Nup, Jonathan was a touchie in Saturday’s Stormers/Brumbies clash, so will definitely return with the whistle, but Bryce is no more, apparently thanks to JON. Bryce, very nice fella that he was, had difficulty setting scrums. “Touch, pause, er, engage – nah, nah, let’s have that again fellas” for the umpteenth time. Meanwhile you could have three cups of tea…

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          March 27th 2013 @ 10:29am
          biltongbek said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:29am | ! Report

          I thought you Ozzies would love Bryce? 😉

          • March 27th 2013 @ 10:42am
            joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:42am | ! Report

            “I thought you Ozzies would love Bryce?”

            At times he seemed to be getting better, then would relapse into old habits and it would be painful. Still, I thought they’d persevere with him till he came good, as Joubert has, and Walsh too.

          • March 27th 2013 @ 10:45am
            joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:45am | ! Report

            ‘persevere’, 🙁

          • March 27th 2013 @ 10:57am
            Harry said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:57am | ! Report

            Have alook at Crusaders vs Reds last year in Christchurch.

            • March 27th 2013 @ 11:10am
              Justin2 said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:10am | ! Report

              Great game that one, Gill was unreal and outplayed his more illustrious opponents. The NZ comms were in love with him. Now he isnt even getting an ARU top up according to the Australian.

              • March 27th 2013 @ 11:53am
                Harry said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:53am | ! Report

                Don’t get me started … watch in the next few weeks, if by any chance Liam were to go to the basket case Rebels, then the ARU top up would materalise. Did it with Higgers, to everyone’s detriment.

              • March 27th 2013 @ 11:57am
                joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:57am | ! Report

                “Now he isnt even getting an ARU top up according to the Australian.”

                Interesting that in Canno’s view “he isn’t big enough,” as in bulk size…

                “Have a look at Crusaders vs Reds last year in Christchurch.”

                From memory it was a square up for the times Jonathan K handled Aussie conference teams (particularly the Tahs) vs CCs in Christchurch, though I could be wrong, as per usual.

              • March 27th 2013 @ 12:03pm
                Justin2 said | March 27th 2013 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

                Then how is Hooper big enough judging by that comment I think Canno has been hit a few times in the head…

              • March 27th 2013 @ 12:10pm
                joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 12:10pm | ! Report

                “I think Canno has been hit a few times in the head…”

                Agree, it did seem an odd comment. That said what’s happened to Beau Robinson.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 11:40am
        Wales15 said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:40am | ! Report

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    • March 27th 2013 @ 10:52am
      richard said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:52am | ! Report

      BB,you aren’t one of those saffas who thinks Lawrence cost you that game,are you? The boks lost because of their own stupidity.They had enough front-foot ball to win two games.It was the lack of finishing by your backs that cost you the game,not Lawrence’s reffing.

      Still,the fact Lawrence let Dwyer and Horan’s criticism of his performance in the Ireland game affect him,where he reffed well,is enough for this punter to see the end of him.He showed he is weak-minded in taking notice of the criticism.Will be interesting to see how Steve Walsh reacts to the serving he is currently getting from the brit press after the 6N decider.My guess is he won’t be losing any sleep over it.

      If you choose to become a ref,this goes with the territory.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 10:57am
        joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 10:57am | ! Report

        Yes, vaguely remember that clash. 🙂

      • March 27th 2013 @ 11:02am
        Harry said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:02am | ! Report

        English press richard, not brit. The Welsh press were quite happy.

        Fairly pathetic behaviour from the pommy coaches afterwards- leaked to sympathetic media they were making a complaint against Walsh after coping a thrashing, compounded by gutless underhand stunts. A good example of the lack of moral fibre in the modern Englishman.

        (Last para mainly for Viscount Crouchback)

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        March 27th 2013 @ 11:03am
        biltongbek said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:03am | ! Report

        Richard, never a good idea to start off a debate with calling us stupid.

        But the answer is yes and no.

        There were a number of reasons we lost that match.

        Frans Steyn was the catalyst in our attack during the world cup, and him being injured against Samoa meant we went into the QF without him.

        This meant Jean de Villiers played at 12 and during the game produced two forward passes in the final moves before we went over which would have been 2 scores were it not for the forward pass.

        Danie Rossouw when he pulled down (I think it was Horwill) in the line out late in the game which gave australia thie lead.

        Pieter de Villiers who was not astute enough to change tactics.

        The hit on Brussow in the 24th minute of the game which ended his match.

        And then Bryce Lwarence who did not penalise the Wallabies once in their red zone during the whole match, where they slent a lot lf time on defence, which by his own admission, Bryce Lawarence admitted he froze on the big stage after the rantings of John O’Neill after the Wallabies’ loss to Ireland.

        • March 27th 2013 @ 11:39am
          joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:39am | ! Report

          “And then Bryce Lwarence who did not penalise the Wallabies once in their red zone during the whole match, where they slent a lot lf time on defence, which by his own admission, Bryce Lawarence admitted he froze on the big stage after the rantings of John O’Neill after the Wallabies’ loss to Ireland.”

          Gamesmanship, on O’Neill’s part, clearly. We lost because Ireland played stronger/better, we were ordinary and it’s really why some us began calling for Dingo’s head.

        • March 27th 2013 @ 12:41pm
          nickoldschool said | March 27th 2013 @ 12:41pm | ! Report

          Seems Bryce is to saffas what Craig Joubert is for the French ;). Can’t stand the bloke.

        • March 27th 2013 @ 2:03pm
          richard said | March 27th 2013 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

          BB,just saying the tactics employed by the boks that day were stupid,just the same as the AB’s in 2007.

          On both occasions,both teams were stupid in not reading the play,or the referee.Your last sentence I agree with,as I alluded to in my earlier thread.

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            March 27th 2013 @ 7:22pm
            biltongbek said | March 27th 2013 @ 7:22pm | ! Report

            Those famous words, didn’t read the referee.

            They tried to speak to him for clarificatin, he dismissed them.

            But I do agree with you, they should have played illegally, he wasn’t blowing anything up, oh, but then again we were penalised twice in the Red Zone for playing illegally.

            Yeah, maybe you’re right, we are stupid, I can’t for the life of me understand the ruck.

            Hence my suggestion earlier this week to simplify ruck laws, you know, simple rules for simple minds. Maybe then will we win our next RWC.

            • March 28th 2013 @ 6:59am
              richard said | March 28th 2013 @ 6:59am | ! Report

              You think your team is the only one to suffer at the hands of refereeing decisions.NZ had it happen at a number of WC’s,and we too could be aggrieved by that (1999 comes to mind).In that game,the AB’s went to the ref to complain,and were brushed off, just as you were in 2011.And,yes,the AB’s should have been pro-active and dealt with the problem on the field i.e French thuggery.They didn’t and the rest is history.Also,the French tried the same rubbish v the WB’s in the final and Eales threatened to take his team off the field if something wasn’t done about it.By putting the onus on the ref to police the French,Eales had taken away the only weapon they had,and without the thuggery they were flogged.It’s called being pro-active.

              World Cups are won by brain power and experience,and that includes being able to read the referee as much as the opposition.The “stupid” comment I will take back if it offends you so much,let’s say ‘tactically naive” and leave it at that.

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                March 29th 2013 @ 12:02am
                biltongbek said | March 29th 2013 @ 12:02am | ! Report

                Mate if you think my beef is for SA only then you are sadly mistaken. My beef is for every team that is hard done by decisions.

                We soon forget matches where referees influence results (though it doesn’t happen everytime) but careers are at stake, I just want a fair contest.

                I don’t like winning or losing by refereeing margins, I feel as guilty when we are fortunate as I feel robbed when we are unfortunate.

                Whether you want to call it tactically naive (nice term by the way) or stupid, it is still not what rugby is supposed to be.

                I rules are simpler, there is lees chance of misplaced or erronious interpretations, which means rugby is won or lost by physical skill, domination and execution.

            • March 28th 2013 @ 11:15pm
              joeb said | March 28th 2013 @ 11:15pm | ! Report

              “Yeah, maybe you’re right, we are stupid, I can’t for the life of me understand the ruck.”

              Simple, you enter through the gate, the “imaginary gate”, What could possibly be simpler… 🙂

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                March 29th 2013 @ 12:02am
                biltongbek said | March 29th 2013 @ 12:02am | ! Report

                Hahaha, those gates confuse even the referees.

              • March 29th 2013 @ 8:20am
                richard said | March 29th 2013 @ 8:20am | ! Report

                BB- in agreement with you about teams getting snotted by bad reffing decisions.Unfortunately,you have a game with a multitude of laws that are open to interpretations by refs.And as a consequence you have a game that is more often than not decided on a refs whim.I honestly can’t think of another game with this problem,and until they get some uniformity in the rules in both hemispheres,little is going to change.

                I actually agree with the basic gist of your argument,we’re just approaching it from a different angle.

    • March 27th 2013 @ 11:14am
      Johnno said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:14am | ! Report

      Craig Joubert for the 2nd test, hmm Joubert always bobs up in the crucial tests often, and also for whatever reason these tests, also for the game of rugby there is a lot of revenue on the line.

      For example the rugby world cup final, a NZ victory was crucial for revenue of the NZ AB’S cementing themselves as a brand even more globally by winning a home world cup.

      Joubert also refereed the England VS France match this year at twickenham, bearing in mind an England win would set up a blockbuster, for a 6 nations decider England VS Wales.

      Joubert also refereed the match in Rosario when world cup seedings were on the line, and it was better for revenue if Australia is seeded higher at the world cup than Argentina, as the wallabies are at this stage still a bigger brand at least in the UK, so big revenue having a stronger Australia.

      Now Joubert has been appointed by the IRB for the Lion’s series, game 2. Bearing in mind if the 2nd match is won by the team who lost the 1st game, the series will be locked at 1-1 all, and a big money spinner huge blockbuster 3rd test in Sydney will be played with massive revenue and TV ratings, as opposed to a dead rubber 3rd test.

      Hmm some conspiracy theorist will think this and that, but i just noticed that, for big games int he last 2 years, when huge revenue and interest in the sport is at stake, often Craig Joubert has been appointed the ref.

      And not once in any of the 3 games mentioned did the losing side ever hit the lead.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 11:30am
        joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:30am | ! Report

        Johnno, Mark Lawrence was a very good ref, but was pushed into early retirement also (i’m not defending Bryce – he could be pretty ordinary, but at times was reasonable).

        “New Zealand’s Chris Pollock, South African Craig Joubert and France’s Romain Poite will referee the three Test matches between Australia and the touring British and Irish Lions, the International Rugby Board says.”

        • March 27th 2013 @ 11:44am
          Johnno said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:44am | ! Report

          Mark Lawrence is the best ref I have seen int he last 10 years to be honest, he just is in control of the game, and let’s the game flow, and is a fair ref too.

          • March 27th 2013 @ 11:47am
            joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:47am | ! Report

            Tell that to OJ, 😉 lol

          • March 27th 2013 @ 1:03pm
            atlas said | March 27th 2013 @ 1:03pm | ! Report

            Mark Lawrence, I liked him as a ref too, but – Ireland v Argentina late 2009 killed his career. A performance so poor he was dropped from all/any involvement at all in the 2010 6N tournament. Effectively ruined his chances of any RWC involvement too – he became non-grata, as did Marius Jonker for his efforts Ireland v NZ late 2009, also dropped from all 6N rugby.

            Quote from The Independent: IRB deserve praise for punishing sub-standard refereeing
            “Lawrence’s performance which included some completely wrong calls, astonished certain senior officials. At times he seemed only to be refereeing one team, Argentina, and his mistakes clearly cost them several points on the score board.
            He failed to award a clear penalty try to Argentina, bizarrely rewarding Ireland for twisting the retreating scrum with a penalty to them. It was one of the craziest decisions you will ever see on an international field. He then gave Ireland another penalty when an Irish hand clearly shoved the ball back on the ground.
            And another penalty which erroneously went to Ireland led to a converted try by Stephen Ferris. “

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      March 27th 2013 @ 11:52am
      Jiggles said | March 27th 2013 @ 11:52am | ! Report

      Joubert is a home town ref of the worst sorts. So if the Australians get dusted in game one the media should find any excuse to put a huge amount of pressure on him. If they win they should do it anyway so the Wallabies get all the marginal calls.

      Poite is rubbish but I’m just glad none of the Irish Refs are eligible.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 12:19pm
        joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 12:19pm | ! Report

        “Poite is rubbish but I’m just glad none of the Irish Refs are eligible.”

        You mean Rolland. Yes, we’re all breathing easier.

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          March 27th 2013 @ 1:10pm
          Jiggles said | March 27th 2013 @ 1:10pm | ! Report

          No I mean Poite. Rolland isn’t flash either.

          • March 27th 2013 @ 4:35pm
            joeb said | March 27th 2013 @ 4:35pm | ! Report

            Erm, yes, got the wires crossed.

      • March 27th 2013 @ 12:47pm
        nickoldschool said | March 27th 2013 @ 12:47pm | ! Report

        Agree re Joubert jiggles. He just can’t resist any form of home pressure. We have an expression in French: ‘Home refereeing’. Arbitrage a la maison. Says it all.

        Might be going for him this time though but the home nations might have briefed the refs before their trip. Not impressed by Poite either.

        • March 27th 2013 @ 12:52pm
          Johnno said | March 27th 2013 @ 12:52pm | ! Report

          nickoldschool Joubert was disgraceful this year in the England VS France match at twickenham, was awful England got all the crucial 50/50 calls was terrible advertisement for sport of rugby.

          • March 27th 2013 @ 1:06pm
            nickoldschool said | March 27th 2013 @ 1:06pm | ! Report

            To be fair, am so biased and anti Joubert these days, i.e post 2011 rwc final, that Every decision he makes is suspicious to me! Tuilagi’s try during this game was also controversial, but I guess it’s tough to see everything for a ref…dunno really.

            Just hope refereeing doesn’t ruin e series ahead and that all three refs in charge will be consistent in all matches. Nothing more frustrating to get penalised with one ref and get away with the same infringement the next week. They have plenty of time to all be on the same page.

    • March 27th 2013 @ 1:33pm
      Worlds Biggest said | March 27th 2013 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

      Not a bad group, delighted Rolland didn’t get a gig. He blows the pea out of the whistle.

    • March 27th 2013 @ 2:11pm
      atlas said | March 27th 2013 @ 2:11pm | ! Report

      across the Tasman – a reunion of sorts with Wayne Barnes. the All Blacks and France in June; quite an event – at Eden Park a replay of RWC final albeit with mostly different players – even minus McCaw who’ll still be holidaying.
      Barnes has refereed in NZ numerous times since ‘that’ NZ-Fra match 2007 without any bother, but this is the first time he’s reffed NZ-Fra again.

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