Wallaby O'Connor injured in Rebels loss

Yes, this is the correct back 3.

I can't argue with that.

When you make an assumption, you make an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption'.

I don't have an issue with whether you are "cordial" or syrupy or sticky or anything else that takes your fancy. And of course you can respond as you f'ing well please. So can everyone else - its a free country. I agree with you on Lealiifano - I haven't seen any sign that Deans seriously considered him as a test 10 in 2011/2012. His preferred choices were Cooper and O'Connor, and then he went for Barnes in front of Beale in the 4N, but switched that to Beale before Barnes (mostly) in the 2012 end of year tests.

Well, the post I was responding to wasn't exactly cordial, so I'll respond how I f'ing well please thanks Mike. If you want some substance - here. Cooper, sure. I never once stated that he wasn't. O'Connor, Yes, once. I'll even concede him. Beale? At the time, no. He'd not played 10 and even when he regained fitness Barnes got the nod. Leilifano? Never. He's never even played test rugby and we have no idea if Deans will ever select him. I could rave about the Super Rugby play of the likes of Ardie Savea or Robbie Fruean, but until the selectors actually show an interest in them, they can't be called a preferred option or be said to be ahead of anyone in the pecking order. Giteau? Well, he'd been left out of the RWC squad and left Australia, so he's hardly relevant to the discussion. Deans might well have preferred Lynagh or Larkham too, after all. The facts are that, we simply don't know what Deans preferred options were at the time and it's ludicrous for DC to be so adamant. Some of them undoubtedly were. Some may have been. I don't know and neither does he, no matter how loudly he shouts.

Since the knock on law is Law 12 not Law 17, I think it is fair to say that is out of date. The fact is that nowhere is there a clarification of this law for the kick scenario, it was plainly not considered when the law was written. It seems odd as it appears ripe for a published clarification - I have seen a clarification request regarding this issue but not an official response. I am quite sure examples from international matches could be found to support both points of view. Unless the referees get directives that we don't have public access to, and someone can produce a copy of it - it is fairly clear that you aren't going to convice me and I am not going to convince you.

They aren't the laws, end of story. Show me where in the IRB Laws it states that...

Well iam a rebels supporter and had no issue with his kick...

Jerry, if you have something to say, please make it a rational response rather than mere abuse. Different Cat has his facts right - Deans has never preferred Barnes over Cooper at 10. For that matter, I can't think of a time when Deans has picked any other 10 when Cooper has been available. Deans has made adverse comments about Cooper's play from time to time in order to gee him up (and so he should), but that is not the same as not picking him. Since RWC 2011 Deans has also stated clearly that he expects Cooper to defend the 10 channel, which Cooper has clearly taken on board. JOC got the 10 jersey at the end of 2011 over Barnes and Beale (Cooper not available). Barnes got the jersey over Beale when JOC and Cooper were not available in the mid-year tests, and then brought back Cooper as soon as he was fit during the 4N. When Cooper was no longer available, (nor JOC) Deans preferred Beale to Barnes.

"“his prefered options” Assumption" Assumption. :)

I agree. Some people are such one-eyed Quade fans that they feel they must denigrate any other potential No 10 in order to talk Quade up, even when the basis of denigration (JOC's ability and commitment in defence) is patently absurd. I think Quade is mature enough to realise that he can make his own case for selection (and he is doing a pretty good job now). Pity some of his fans aren't the same.

Jeez, trying to stop Rene Ranger at full speed AFTER you have picked up a nasty injury to the sternum - I would call that courage, not failure. Not saying JoC is right for WB 10, but the comparison between QC's tackle on Ranger and that one - utterly unfair.

Sure JOC is worse then QC in defence, what a joke, Cooper misses one in 3, Joc one in 7. I am not saying make him Aus 10 but let's not ignore reality. JOC dis not commit to the Ranger Tacle because of injury. Some of the blokes on the Roar are simply too one eyed. Please give me the proof that QC is better in defence or stop making silly statements that will leaves you looking like a "Marto"

Wow you guys are so deluded!! Joc stats for 2013, Joc misses 1 in 7.2 tackles defending in the front line. QC misses 1 in 3.2, you guys obviously blinded by your opinions. I think you guys should join Marto on the list of red blinded fools

Long story short: if you support the Blues, it was a brilliant play. If you support the Rebels, you got robbed. If you are an armchair referee, welcome and consider taking up the whistle!

Physicals laity not skill!!! C'mon try harder...and read the laws.

*LIKE*

Who's acting like a prize tool, cause he's knows he's pulling facts out of his rear end? YOU.

Sure, but based on the pretty clear evidence that he intended to catch the ball and couldn't.

"I dont think he intended to kick it" Assumption.