Cooper omission unbelievable: Woodward


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    Former England World Cup winning coach Clive Woodward says the decision to leave Quade Cooper out of the Wallabies squad “beggars belief”.

    Australian coach Robbie Deans confirmed on the weekend Cooper wouldn’t be one of the six additions to his squad to play the British and Irish Lions in the upcoming three-Test series.

    “It is an own goal that has handed the Lions a trump card and just emphasises again how modern coaching – aligned with this obsession with `team ethic’ – has sidelined the more maverick characters,” Woodward wrote in British tabloid the Daily Mail on Monday.

    “The Lions did not want to face him (Cooper) and they have got their wish.”

    Woodward said Australia was in for a huge battle and needed Cooper’s “x-factor” at fly-half with James O’Connor on the wing and Kurtley Beale at fullback.

    “That this will not happen is a true shame for fans but brilliant news for the Lions,” he wrote.

    The backline trio of Beale, Digby Ioane and Pat McCabe were among the final six players added to Deans’ 31-man squad on Monday.

    Western Force powerhouse Hugh McMeniman will also jostle for a position while the two final places went to Brumbies bolters Scott Sio and Peter Kimlin.

    Cooper was reportedly attacked at a Brisbane hotel on Sunday afternoon just hours after being told he would not be part of the squad.

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    • June 11th 2013 @ 5:57am
      Just the facts said | June 11th 2013 @ 5:57am | ! Report

      Big deal
      Just one more very knowledgable experienced person calling out the Dingo
      May the tests begin!

      • June 11th 2013 @ 6:33am
        kingplaymaker said | June 11th 2013 @ 6:33am | ! Report

        He is a real authority on the Lions and after the tour he coached there every word of his should be followed.

        • June 11th 2013 @ 6:40am
          Red Kev said | June 11th 2013 @ 6:40am | ! Report

          The guy has won a world cup – what has Robbie Deans done? Oh that’s right failed at two world cups, one as assistant, one as head coach.

          • June 11th 2013 @ 7:29am
            Rebel said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:29am | ! Report

            Agree on credentials, but what better way to distract the wallabies than constantly having them talk about QC. A massive RED herring now.

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            June 11th 2013 @ 8:15am
            Anthony Hird said | June 11th 2013 @ 8:15am | ! Report

            You voting for him to take the Aussie reigns now?

          • June 11th 2013 @ 8:57am
            Roarer said | June 11th 2013 @ 8:57am | ! Report

            Robbie deans has won a lot more than Clive Woodward. Clive screwed up in his lions tour picking too many past it players from his flock.

            It’s reverse psychology. They want him to play because for every good thing he does, he does something stupid like drop a ball behind him or throw and intercept pass. Whilst O’Connor isn’t anything special, he makes less mistakes.

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              June 11th 2013 @ 11:02am
              Jiggles said | June 11th 2013 @ 11:02am | ! Report

              What team did Deans lead to World Cup victory? I must have missed that tournament.

          • June 11th 2013 @ 9:16am
            formeropenside said | June 11th 2013 @ 9:16am | ! Report

            Didn’t he win a Test against the AB’s at home, in 2003 or something?

            • June 11th 2013 @ 9:46am
              Hurl said | June 11th 2013 @ 9:46am | ! Report

              Then dropped three in 2005….Sound familiar

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                June 11th 2013 @ 11:02am
                Jiggles said | June 11th 2013 @ 11:02am | ! Report

                I’d take 1 over none…

              • June 11th 2013 @ 1:12pm
                Nigel Imrie said | June 11th 2013 @ 1:12pm | ! Report

                Don’t forget Samoa and Scotland!!

          • June 11th 2013 @ 12:45pm
            Nick said | June 11th 2013 @ 12:45pm | ! Report

            Something else deans hasn’t done is coach a lions team to their worst on and off field performance in history with the “best prepared lions team in history”

            CW should be proud of that one eh

            • June 11th 2013 @ 5:00pm
              Dave said | June 11th 2013 @ 5:00pm | ! Report

              Yeah but woodward coached England to Home and away victories over the AB’s and was undefeated against the SH for 2 years + World cup.


              One poor tour which even Henrymucked up doesn’t mean a thing

            • June 11th 2013 @ 5:17pm
              Winston said | June 11th 2013 @ 5:17pm | ! Report

              They did come up against one of the best AB teams ever.

      • June 11th 2013 @ 1:18pm
        Rob G said | June 11th 2013 @ 1:18pm | ! Report

        Come on guys. As if he isn’t just trying to cause a division in the wallabies camp. We don’t need Woodward for this, we have reds fans

        • June 11th 2013 @ 9:19pm
          handles said | June 11th 2013 @ 9:19pm | ! Report

          Reds fans, and Bob Dwyer, Eddie Jones, Stirling Mortlock, Mark Ella, David Lord, Warren Gatland, etc.

    • June 11th 2013 @ 6:23am
      maxxlord said | June 11th 2013 @ 6:23am | ! Report

      šŸ™‚ COOPER is a superstar!

      • June 11th 2013 @ 8:52am
        woobliesfan said | June 11th 2013 @ 8:52am | ! Report

        He’s got Mojo that’s for sure.

      • June 11th 2013 @ 12:02pm
        Chairman Kaga said | June 11th 2013 @ 12:02pm | ! Report

        Have you actually watched Cooper play?

        • June 11th 2013 @ 12:04pm
          mania said | June 11th 2013 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

          u gotta ask clive woodward the same question. i think these guys are just looking at quades highlight reel, produced and directed by quade

          • June 11th 2013 @ 1:54pm
            Giugni said | June 11th 2013 @ 1:54pm | ! Report

            Any one who plays the game or wants the Wallabies to win could not possibly have been at the ground on Saturday night and still want QC to be in the Wallaby team. He has no concept of team and absolutely no commitment to his team mates. Kick the balll or pass the ball and wander back to fullback for the next phase.

            I can imagine if you only watched on tv that it might appear that he had a good game – most kicks from the BL went down his throat – he was hiding. The BL didn’t know what he was doing next but nor did his team mates – that will never cut it in test match rugby. He is only a good S15 player.

            Bring on some great test match rugby !!

            • June 11th 2013 @ 7:46pm
              handles said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:46pm | ! Report

              My vote for least informed comment of the year.

            • June 11th 2013 @ 9:12pm
              Scot Free said | June 11th 2013 @ 9:12pm | ! Report

              I’ll second that vote.

      • June 11th 2013 @ 1:08pm
        peterlala said | June 11th 2013 @ 1:08pm | ! Report

        He’s not. But he might become one. He’s certainly a star.

    • June 11th 2013 @ 6:52am
      Sickothe10debate. said | June 11th 2013 @ 6:52am | ! Report

      It’s a sad day when you find yourself on the same side of the fence as Sir Clive. How has it come to this????

      • June 11th 2013 @ 10:20am
        Mmickey said | June 11th 2013 @ 10:20am | ! Report

        I would suggest that agreeing with Clive on Wallaby selections at the cusp of a Lions series is a sign that perhaps Clive foxing… If I were Clive or any other passionate Englishman with a voice, I’d be playing mind games and trying to pressure the selection of players I saw as providing weaknesses for the Lions to exploit.
        Now, that may sound cynical, but I remember Clive’s time as coach, and I can confidently say there are few people as cynical as that man in world Rugby.

      • June 11th 2013 @ 11:19am
        mania said | June 11th 2013 @ 11:19am | ! Report

        Sickothe10debate, u may be coming down with something

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      June 11th 2013 @ 7:21am
      B-Rock said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:21am | ! Report

      O’l Clive loves a headline doesn’t he

    • June 11th 2013 @ 7:45am
      Dan said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:45am | ! Report

      Caution from the enemy on our selections? Jeez, maybe Robbie is on to something by leaving Quade out. It sounds as if a few if the poms are panicking that he hasn’t been picked ….

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        June 11th 2013 @ 7:47am
        Simon Levingston said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:47am | ! Report

        I agree Dan!

        • June 11th 2013 @ 7:58am
          Dan said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:58am | ! Report

          Yeah, seriously I’d be way more worried if they’d been praising us like Graham Henry did before the semi final in ’11

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      June 11th 2013 @ 7:46am
      Simon Levingston said | June 11th 2013 @ 7:46am | ! Report

      Thank you Clive for the feedback, we will keep you posted!

      QC would be selected by many countries, but Australia has lots of choices at this time who have better game management providing a more reliable yet dynamic platform for test rugby.

      The best no 10’s in the country are Matt Toomua and James O’Connor. Yes they are both less experienced at 10, but they will provide so much more when they settle into test rugby. I am looking forward to seeing JOC joining up with Will Genia, very exciting and very dangerous.

      • June 11th 2013 @ 8:55am
        Rhino said | June 11th 2013 @ 8:55am | ! Report

        Simon – as a QC hater you are entitled to your opinion but If Wallabies lose on June 22, do you really think the fans will be screaming for Toomua to be put in. As good as he is, he’s no QC.

        Deans has made his bed. Let’s get on with it and see what happens.

        • June 11th 2013 @ 9:36am
          Mmickey said | June 11th 2013 @ 9:36am | ! Report

          I have a feeling the fans may be Rhino. Quade strangely seems to have lost the support of the public after the Reds match, with the normally predictable fox polls showing barely 20% of people thinking Cooper should be included in the Wallabies after his performance. Meanwhile, Toomua put in a cracking and balanced game on Friday (albeit against weaker opposition).

          Sadly, it seems Quade’s inconsistency and overall lack of balance is beginning to weigh even on many of his fans. As a neutral observer I have to say that Woodward’s comments would make me rather suspicious. One should never take the praise of those seeking to undermine you as genuine.

          • June 11th 2013 @ 10:53am
            Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | June 11th 2013 @ 10:53am | ! Report

            Or to put it another way Mmickey ‘just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean that they aren’t all out to get me’ šŸ˜‰

            • June 11th 2013 @ 10:59am
              Mmickey said | June 11th 2013 @ 10:59am | ! Report

              I wouldn’t call it paranoia to expect Woodward to be making these comments because he actually thinks that the Lions would have an even stronger chance were Cooper leading the Wallabies attack. Given his track record when it comes to these things, you’d have to be incredibly naive to think he was genuine.

              • June 11th 2013 @ 2:57pm
                Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | June 11th 2013 @ 2:57pm | ! Report

                Okay then. šŸ™

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          June 11th 2013 @ 5:23pm
          Simon Levingston said | June 11th 2013 @ 5:23pm | ! Report

          Rhino, I don’t hate QC, he is a fine rugby player, I just think Kurtley Beale, James O’Connor and Matt Toomua are better. If all those guys bomb out,I will take it all back and promise to earn up for being so rubbish, but I don’t think that will happen.

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        June 11th 2013 @ 12:50pm
        AdamS said | June 11th 2013 @ 12:50pm | ! Report

        Simon, on what basis do you rate JOC as one of the top 10’s in the country?
        Just a hunch? Because there is certainly no games time to suggest that.
        He may not rate as one of the best any things, other than utility.

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          June 11th 2013 @ 5:24pm
          Simon Levingston said | June 11th 2013 @ 5:24pm | ! Report

          AdamS, let’s see how JOC goes running off Will Genia, I think we will all sit up and be pleasantly surprised, even when the forward pack is going backwards on skates.

      • June 11th 2013 @ 1:10pm
        peterlala said | June 11th 2013 @ 1:10pm | ! Report

        Mat Toomua hasn’t played Test rugby. JOC? You’re having a laugh.

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          June 11th 2013 @ 5:28pm
          Simon Levingston said | June 11th 2013 @ 5:28pm | ! Report

          JOC, the joke could be on me, but I am confident the selectors know what they are doing, just wait and see it could be very exciting to watch.
          Matt Toomua, he is very good and he seems to be maturing with time and space; he reminds me a lot like a young Dan Carter.

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