Are Robbie and Quade the perfect match?

By Jereme Lane / Roar Guru

I know that we all want to put the Quade Cooper thing to bed, but I feel I have to get my two cents in before that occurs.

Also, I’ve been desperately trying to work out the makeup of our backline for the first Test and am still scratching my head. I’ll go even further and say the more I look at it the more I come to the conclusion that Cooper is absolutely perfect for the game plan that Deans wants to play.

I also feel that there is one issue that hasn’t been properly covered yet, and that is the fact that Cooper is actually really good at executing the conservative game; it’s just that nobody ever asks him to play it.

I can’t understand why nobody in this never-ending Cooper debate has talked about the system at the Reds that Cooper plays in.

People have talked about Cooper’s mistakes against the Lions (and at other times this year and throughout his career) but I really do feel that Cooper is suffering as a product of his environment.

The fact that people are bagging Cooper for his game on the weekend is ludicrous.

I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that McKenzie told Cooper to play a very expansive game on the weekend. I have no proof of this, but I think the quick-taps five metres out from the Reds’ own line were a dead giveaway.

There is not a playmaker in the world who could play to that touch footy game-plan and not make mistakes. The idea that Cooper would throw the no-look pass to Beau Robinson on his own 22 metre line in a Test for the Wallabies after everything that has been said, and after Cooper has adapted his game this year, is simply ridiculous.

McKenzie’s Reds team plays a lot of rugby in this style, but he also has a history of playing conservative when the situation dictates it.

Anyone remember the game against the Stormers in Cape Town in 2011? Cooper produced a masterclass in conservative rugby, and the Reds out-bored the most successfully boring team in the competition.

They did this by pinning the Stormers back in their own half with clever kicks from Cooper, and executing a very tight forwards game. They had the Stormers convinced they were going to try and run them off their feet like they had done to every other team.

They have also played more conservatively at times during games this year against the Kiwi sides, and Cooper was brilliant at closing the games out by not overplaying his hand against the Chiefs and Highlanders after steering the Reds to a lead.

I think that Cooper has the ability to adapt very quickly to change, as he showed this year by stifling his offloads after Deans told him he needs to take more contact.

All Cooper needs is someone to tell him to do it, which he was never going to consistently get from McKenzie at the Reds.

As a matter of fact, I don’t know if anyone has ever told Cooper to play conservatively. It’s no secret that when Robbie Deans first picked him for the Wallabies it certainly wasn’t for his conservative side.

We know that Super Rugby is a lot quicker and more open than Test rugby, and we also know that McKenzie tells Cooper to play his natural game (most of the time) at the Reds.

It’s therefore not unreasonable to think that if McKenzie becomes Wallaby coach then Cooper will be his fly-half and that he will be playing a lot more conservatively than what he does for the Reds.

My fear with O’Connor, and the problem that all running fly-halves have, is that they tend to think they can play centre at the same time.

What often happens is that they instinctively want to take on the line, especially in Test footy when the opposition is slowing down the ruck and cutting down the fly-half’s time, something I’m sure the Lions will do.

In a tight game with the advantage line being fought over tooth and nail, this ‘one off the ruck’ business becomes very predictable and almost certainly fatal.

The Lions, upon hearing several weeks ago that O’Connor had the fly-half spot wrapped up (and maybe Deans is bluffing on this!), will be preparing to defend outside in, rushing the centres, and try to force O’Connor and his centres to step back inside into heavy traffic.

If O’Connor finds himself caught at the bottom of the ruck too often two things can happen. Firstly, The inside centre (or a forward) will find himself at first receiver a lot of the time which will compound the problem as you will still be plagued by a lack of creativity.

This can be countered by playing a ball-playing 12 (which I don’t believe will happen) or by a second option: bringing in the fullback (who I think has to be Beale if Deans plays O’Connor at 10 with a direct 12) to play first receiver when O’Connor is tackled.

The problem with this is that you are playing with one less outside back (the area that the Wallabies will want to exploit). It also becomes very predictable because with O’Connor or Beale at the bottom of the ruck you have only one of those two left standing who has the ability to use the width of the field.

This in turn will allow the Lions to compress their defence and make more impact in the tackle, in turn affecting advantage line gains, beginning the vicious ‘one-off’ cycle all over again.

Defending takes less of a physical toll as defenders don’t have to run so far. They know where the ball is going and they get there in numbers, sharing the tackling load between more players.

You effectively create a situation where the opposition prefers to defend and back themselves to win penalties or turnovers at the breakdown or hold players up in the tackle, one area that this huge Lions side will definitely fancy themselves.

Look at when we lost to Scotland last year. The Scots couldn’t have been happier defending most of the game because they barely had to move from where they were at the last ruck to repel the Wallaby’s unimaginative, one-off stuff in the wet.

If this becomes an issue and the Wallabies are conceding turnovers in their own half, the only way to get out of this situation is to kick, something that Australians do worse than any other seeded nation.

The reason why the South Africans made the one-off game an art form in 2007 is because they had the kicking genius of Morne Steyn and Fourie Du Preez.

So if the Aussies fall into the one-off trap, who will do the kicking? If Deans’ early selection indications are correct it will be Beale or O’Connor, neither of whom are a Steyn or Du Preez.

While Cooper is nowhere near what other nations offer in the kicking stakes I still think he is our best kicking option because of his variation. He is without a doubt our best kicker at finding touch when outside of our 22 metre zone, which is an important part of Test rugby.

Barnes might be a better all-round kicker but I think he probably kicks too often and he doesn’t ask enough questions of the defence with his running game. His kicks are expected and subsequently easier to defend.

I’m sure if McKenzie allowed Cooper to kick more often and/or Cooper adjusted his position to not stand so flat and wide when taking clearance kicks in his own 22 metre, he would be much more successful.

If Deans wants to play Horne or McCabe at inside then Cooper would be the perfect fly-half for exactly the reasons that Deans excluded him.

Cooper rarely gets caught in the tackle which means that he only has to worry about distributing, negating the need to take a second ball player or kicker at inside centre.

This also allows the fullback to stay wide or on the blind side to limit the predictability of where the ball could go.

Cooper could focus on not overplaying his hand and trying to create a line break every play, which he does at the Reds, but also throw the long pass when the situation arises. This would release our outside backs, which I think most would agree we have to do a lot of to win this series.

This straightening the line business that Deans also talked about would be irrelevant because McCabe, Horne and Ashley-Cooper are more than capable of doing that with the lines they run.

Cooper could be the perfect fly-half for Deans’ Wallaby vision. All that’s needed is for Deans to do something that he has never done: tell Cooper to play conservatively.

The Crowd Says:

2013-06-14T06:42:35+00:00

BetterRedThanDead

Guest


Nah Rob G, its cause their fans are rubbish and couldn't be ars#d speaking up! I've been to Tahs home games a few times and there is more atmosphere on the moon. People do cheer at Brumbies home games but its only to warm themselves and relieve the crushing boredom of living in Canberra. CL has been picked, Toomua will be (even though he isn't as good as QC) and Phipps is damned useless. What was your point again?

2013-06-14T06:16:24+00:00

BetterRedThanDead

Guest


Dennis is marginal, Mitchell played his best game 2 years ago, Barnes has a glass jaw and Horne is a pillow. Apart from those guys, the Tahs have a relatively solid outfit.

2013-06-13T13:13:31+00:00

Malo

Guest


Rugby is based on attack and defense. QC gets a 8/10 attack and a 2/10 for defence. That is why he is not in the side get over it Qlders Toomua is way better at the moment. He has not been picked because he is not good enough. End of Story

2013-06-13T12:36:45+00:00

Pete

Guest


I completely agree Jereme and have been saying this for a while now. Cooper plays to the plan that Mackenzie tells him to, thats why he plays like a touch footy player sometimes, its to create openings and put the defence in two minds. He has scored some brilliant tries from a quick recycle off the ruck. But he still can play conservatively and to the wallabies gameplan. Agree to why defend at ten and not go for the ball in the ruck as he is stopping the man scoring the try not the one lying on the ground. Steyn never enters a ruck and stands about 10 meters behind the line so he has plenty of time to kick but it works! No number 10 can be creative from the bottom of the ruck! His defence is not great at times but is O'connors and beale's defence any better? Barnes is a better defensive player but gets lots of injuries. Is it really worth it??

2013-06-13T11:44:05+00:00

Sprigs

Guest


Yes, and remember how he stopped the try that would have kept the Boks in the World Cup?

2013-06-13T03:40:21+00:00

AdamS

Roar Guru


Just think about the position. The distributor, the playmaker, the organizer of the backs. Where is he better positioned? Out in the open or at the bottom of a ruck?

2013-06-13T02:12:00+00:00

SkinnyKid

Roar Rookie


All fair points. I do look at rugby from a forwards brain (or lack of) so you could be right about him contesting breakdowns. I'm not sure with the defending at 15. Again you may be right that they have him there as an attacking weapon..if so then this again might explain Deans thinking. Maybe deans see Falou and co as better returners of the ball.

2013-06-13T01:59:31+00:00

niwdeyaj

Guest


I wouldn't say he's the best in Australia by a long way... well, definitely the best by a long way compared to what Deans has picked, but Toomua is right up there with Coops in my opinion.

2013-06-13T01:57:58+00:00

niwdeyaj

Guest


Nice one Jereme - Rob G needs to get his head out of the sand with his assuptions about every supporter wanting their club favourites representing the wallabies. Many of us are capable of being independant and just want to see the best players in the country out there performing. I'm a Brumbies supporter and I'd still have QC over Toomua, but ideally I'd like to see both as I think it would give the Wallabies a powerful option to change their style mid-game.

2013-06-13T01:41:14+00:00

Max

Guest


Because he about 50% of his attacking brillaince is in the counter?? Honestly, how many times does it have to be said? McKenzie does not put him there for defensive reasons, it's because he's good at taking a high ball and can engineer a try from the back. Also, I personally think it's good if a flyhalf is concerned about their own well being. I would rather have him on the field playing his best attacking footy rather than being injured 90% of the time like Barnes/ O'Connor. It's so bloody obvious tthat people are caught up in tradition and don't want to consider a new approach. The more games your best flyhalf plays, the more you win. Simple as that. If he's at the bottom of a ruck breaking fingers, damaging wrists or screwing up hamstrings then he's no good to you.

2013-06-13T01:27:11+00:00

Positive Rugby

Guest


No, we won't go away because we are being ripped off by Deans. Cooper is the best 5/8 in Australia by a long way, his defence is good enough and there is no one that can match his attacking flair. He deserves to be the Wallaby 5/8 and should be there.

2013-06-13T01:24:27+00:00

mania

Guest


was said by one of the aus commentators during a game. cant confirm but should be common knowledge as i cant have been the only person to have heard it. yes tackling is so much easier than kicking. thats why i cant understand when players continuosly fk it up. i'm helping coach under 8 players at the moment and every single one of them is tackling better than when the season started. if they can l;earn it why cant quade...or TPN for that matter.

2013-06-13T01:21:11+00:00

mania

Guest


of course saying all this imo quades tackling has improved immensely. that try saving tackle that quade did in the weekend was basically quade doing everything right in preventing the try. he hit the player without adding momentum to the lions player, pulled on the the ball carrier and then wrapped up the ball and him and kept him on his back.

2013-06-13T01:20:41+00:00

Justin2

Guest


Im am interested in the goal kicking side, hadnt heard that before. Where did you hear that? I would say tackling is easier to fix than goal kicking, having been a goal kicker myself.

2013-06-13T01:13:49+00:00

mania

Guest


to a degree justin2; deans should say "quade, u need to work on your tackling" and qc should go away and get help with it. deans is there for the team. a single player cannot monopolise his time. and deans has spent quality time with quade. quades kicking percentage has improved because of deans. that superman pose that quade does when lining up for a kick was due to deans telling him to compensate for his tendency to slice it. that was a major flaw that deans saw of quades and quade thanked him with a toxic tweet.

2013-06-13T01:13:33+00:00

SkinnyKid

Roar Rookie


LowLow I'm struggling to understand your point. I think we actually agree but its getting lost there somewhere. Fin, not sure to be honest. I really and honestly think he scared of contact which is a mental thing that can be changed. Have a look at the replay he's tackler assist in a multi man tackle several times, rather than putting his head down and going for the ball his first reaction it meerkat (look up) for the support player arriving to clear him out...clear sign of a bloke more worried about being hit than having a desire to win the ball. Again its a mental thing and can be fixed....As Justin points out, his tackling has improved this year and why they dont just have him defend at 10 full time is beyond me.

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2013-06-13T01:00:14+00:00

Jereme Lane

Roar Guru


exactly right lowlow if Quade was ignoring his coach's gameplan to try and get back into the wallabies he would have played way more conservatively; as it turned out he played the loosest game he has played all year. this was the point i was trying to make about cooper being more than capable of adapting his gameplan he justs needs to be told to do it.

2013-06-13T00:52:12+00:00

Justin2

Guest


He has shown he can tackle mania. He needs to be told that he is to commit to every tackle and not wait for the cavalry and dash off which he has often done to get into position for then next phase. Deans hasnt got the time? really? if you see a key player has a supposedly major flaw you wouldnt spend time correcting it?

2013-06-13T00:42:24+00:00

lowlow

Guest


SK did you not read the article? do you honestly think that is how mckenzie would play if he were test coach? do you think that he said to cooper, go out and play for field position and cooper just said nah stuff it ill just throw no look passes? as link said himself you dont get picked on one game. name me one player who could have executed link's gameplan on saturday better than quade cooper. link knew that the only chance was to have a crack at them out wide and he was proven right by the reds losing every lineout except the ones they threw to the prop at the front

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2013-06-12T22:03:32+00:00

Jereme Lane

Roar Guru


I am a Tahs fan and passionaltely hate the Reds!! I just love the Wallabies even more than the tahs and can't see how there will be balance in the backline with O'Connor at 5/8 and horne or mccabe at 12. i see that as like playing with 3 centres. if O'Connor is at 5/8 then you would have to play Leealiifano or Barnes at 12 to maintain balance but i can't see robbie scrapping the direct 12 that he's been playing for the last 2 years. or you have to put barnes at 15 and play uber conservative. or you put beale at 15 and play with heaps of X factor and no combinations.... Dennis is awesome, he's just struggled a bit with the captaincy this year but anyone who watched him last year would see he is a freak, mitchell's form is too patchy; he's trying really hard but he needs way more game time which he has run out of. Brumbies fans won't be happy until the wallabies have been entirely replaced by Brumbies rookies and Phipps is already in....

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