Friday night’s match between Manly and Canterbury-Bankstown provided a wonderful spectacle.
Each side scored five tries. Canterbury dominated the first half and looked set for a convincing victory then Manly fought back to provide a thrilling finish to eighty thoroughly entertaining minutes of football.
Then we watched an extra four sets.
I am interested in your opinion, you the partisan supporter, who are the majority of the viewers who tune in to Friday Night football.
Did the extra four sets of football and the winning of the game through a penalty goal by Canterbury enhance your viewing experience? Or did it take something away from the experience?
I am sure if you ask any Canterbury supporter they would say it was great but that would be cancelled out by the Manly supporters who would say it was an anti-climax.
OK, I will tell you now that I am ‘old school’. I have experienced some exciting golden point situations but on balance I am not a fan of the format.
I associate ‘extra time’ with end of season finals football and in those circumstances an extra 10 minutes each way was just as exciting as ‘golden point’ extra time.
On Friday night I felt the brief period of extra time tarnished the match. When Lyon potted the goal from wide out to lock it up at 30-30 I felt that it was a great match and a draw was an entirely appropriate result.
I don’t mind the effect on the premiership ladder when a team gets a single point from a draw.
For years now semi-final standings have been determined by ‘for and against’ with teams all on even numbers because of the lack of drawn matches.
I prefer that standings are determined purely on points.
Golden point extra time places enormous pressure on the referees and they referee differently under those circumstances. They will say they don’t but it’s obvious they do and it’s understandable because they are human and pressure affects all of us.
It takes a brave referee to penalise a player for what could be a legitimate but minor indiscretion.
They know it will likely cost them the game. I don’t just mean penalties in kicking range. A penalty anywhere on the field will result in field position later in the set that is in field goal range.
If we have to have extra time during the regular season then I would prefer it be that only a try can provide the ‘instant’ winning of the game. You still play a maximum of 10 minutes extra time.
If a team kicks a field goal or penalty it does not stop the game.
If a team scores a try and the try or the conversion puts that team in front on the scoreboard then the game is over with that team winning.
Under ‘golden try’ Canterbury would have had to continue to play with a 32-30 lead and play out the remaining seven minutes to win.
Or Canterbury may have opted not to kick and go for the try and get the instant win. Manly could have got the instant win if they scored a try after conceding the penalty goal.
The only way a team could win in extra time when the other team scores a try would be by kicking enough points to be leading by more than the value of a try.
My preference though is stick with the result at the end of eighty minutes.
What is your verdict on golden point extra time footy fans?
Bazzio
Roar Guru
So much hot air = manipulator
npollard
Roar Rookie
I agree with Des in this regard also DOW. Especially after a decade of seeing so many golden point games come down to a team getting field position first and then winning via a field goal. A team that works away for 80 minutes and would have earned a point for the draw can have that undone by losing the toss when there is strong breeze. I remember hearing Peter Tunks say not long ago that GP isn't delivering what was intended which is an exciting piece of entertainment. What the NRL wanted to provide was the desperate attack and defence that came with extra time football in the semi-finals. It has not worked out that way because executing a field goal set does not bring on desperate football.
Snowmann
Guest
Once again Bazzio, your eye sight is fail you, yeah I said it, MY OPINION...I dont carry on about your opinion. Keep carrying bout thing that dont matter...yeah I called you uneducated, especialy for someone who claims to follow leauge or soo long..You claim they lost becuase of the ref's call, my rebuttal to YOUR opinion is that I believe tou are are uneducated and biased for only seeing what you wan to see. Get over it, I didn't agree with your statement, no need to make a big song and dance about and have your littile minions (The Eye) calling me out.
Bazzio
Roar Guru
So who wrote " bunch of sore uneducated fans"?
Snowmann
Guest
Here we go, on the high horse again hey Eye?..where did I single handedly "slag off" somebody, MY opinion is that they are uneducated, so what?..that's MY opinion, not a "slag off"..you don't know me so please bring in my education into the equation..run along.
Snowmann
Guest
No, clearly I do, its to get a WN/LOSE result, do you need me to explain again. What is soo hard to understand.
Football United
Roar Pro
no clearly you don't understand the point of extra time. Penalty shoot outs, like golden point, are for when a result MUST happen. Results are not needed through either scenario for regular season matches
Bazzio
Roar Guru
+1 and rename 'golden point' to "Lucky Dip" as FlameThrower suggests
Bazzio
Roar Guru
That "lucky dip" is also used to score tries ~ teams that have poor running attack just put the ball high in-goal and there is a 50-50 chance of a try. Maybe the odds are even better than 50 - 50, because the defence is standing to jump while the attack is running to jump for the ball. More like an un-lucky dip to me.
up in the north
Guest
Draws are easy to live with in regular season, it's only origin and finals games that need an immediate result. There is no need for a win / loss scenario in every game, as, for & against form a measure of where a team sits on the ladder. As for finals and origin, a result needs to happen. But not golden anything please. Soccer used to have set period extra time halves, - don't know if they still do, and for sure somtimes games were still drawn. But at least it tries to avoid a tied contest. Maybe the NRL could change the rules again and chuck some chainsaws onto the pitch after regular time. You never know, it could turn into a hybrid summer sport. Keep everyone happy.
The eye
Guest
Why do you slag off on people with a different opinion all the time Snowmann..state your feeling fine but the sledging casts aspersions on YOUR education.
eagleJack
Guest
But as I said straight after the game - that's footy. You take the good with the bad. It was a great play by young Reynolds and it won his team the game.
eagleJack
Guest
If you read Bazzio's profile you will see he is a Dragons supporter since 1965. Are they uneducated too? I'm watching the Souths v Titans game and in the first 8mins we have already seen a Titans player being called held, continue to stand, before being put on his back by 3 Souths players. No penalty. So to answer your first question "Exactly when do the refs don't blow a penalty after a player carries on with the tackle???" I'd say quite regularly. And certainly never when the tackled player dives to the ground to milk it.
Snowmann
Guest
Exactly when do the refs don't blow a penalty after a player carries on with the tackle??.. Turn up the volume next time before you make comments. Also, when is it ok for some young punk who isn't the captain to question a ref like that and not get marched. Don't deflect Manly's poor discipline for losing the game, bunch of sore uneducated fans.
liatrevlis
Guest
And somehow there've made it onto this forum , find something else to do oik , gardening ? Scrap booking , but just for the rest of today at least go away
eagleJack
Guest
I don't think you understand the points system DOW put forward "Everyone would be playing for a draw to get extra points" LOL
oikee
Guest
The game is being run by ex-players, we might as well let the coahes make the rules as well, change them every year to suit. I see Shuburt has changed the rules to suit Penrith. Anderson changed the rules to suit Origin send-offs after a week before saying all good, this game is being run on the whim of muppets and puppets. It is offical, the patients are running the asylum. hehe
FlameThrower
Guest
It has always been my opinion that Golden Point is, just a blight on the regular weekly game, we have winners and losers, but with Golden Point we have a lucky dip. I believe that we should stick to the Win, Lose, or Draw feature for the regular competition and revert to Golden Try for the Final side of the competition so that we avoid replays at the business end of the competition.
oikee
Guest
You start listening to Des your in trouble. Look if that idea was used, everyone would be playing for a draw to get extra points. The simple fact is that every coach knows the rules, that is why we call them rules. If we changed the rules because a good looking girl got caught and we dont want her punished, we are just pandering to the stupid. Rules are rules. Lets not change them because some team lost, because a team has to be the loser, we have all the sore losers whinging. No, getting extra points for losing is not going to happen. What is the world coming to, second place is winning? Why not just have no winner then,,,,that will do,,,,,close enough. Get rid of Golden point and go back to a draw. That is what we had before, and the first time any coach whinges about a draw, fine them 100 thousand dollars. amen.
Edward Kelly
Guest
Dumb editor had a hissy, sorry for duplicate!