Rugby league: the dinosaur mentality must go

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    Rugby league, from all areas, must embrace the 21st century and get with the times for once as for far too long it’s been the code that has always been behind in every KPI.

    This includes attendance, membership, participation, TV ratings, player welfare, officiating, ideals, culture and professionalism.

    Despite being the ‘professional’ of the two rugby codes for a good majority of it’s existence, it was ran by chook raffles and poker machines, something that you tend to see at your local pub rather than a professional sports team.

    Rugby league also had it’s fair share of inconsistency over the years in regards to refereeing and the constant need to change rules at a moment’s notice, such as banning the shoulder charge and recently, the biff throughout the regular season.

    The biff itself should not be cherished and the fact that some league fans still want it means something is wrong with the game itself, as fighting needs to be involved for it to be exciting.

    It’s possible to have exciting games, such as Titans versus Souths in Cairns recently, which show that the biff is not needed for a spectacle as the game at full flight can be.

    Culturally, league has no problem taking back repeat offenders and in fact rewarding them, which, as a result has created the negative culture that the league currently has in any other aspect of society.

    Those involved in incidents should be harshly punished.

    However, Rugby league has welcomed back players immediately after a scandal and it took the establishment of the Integrity Unit to put the line in the sand and get with times and accept the fact those wrong should be rightly punished.

    It will take a long time for a actual cultural shift to occur in Rugby l

    Brent Tate punches NSW player Greg Bird

    Queensland player Brent Tate punches NSW player Greg Bird in the head during State of Origin 3 at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Wednesday, July 4, 2012 (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)

    eague since the current values have been embedded for decades but once it occurs, the code will be better off and league will finally be in the modern era and the dinosaurs will finally be extinct.

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    • June 21st 2013 @ 6:19am
      Jay C said | June 21st 2013 @ 6:19am | ! Report

      People who use that photo of Tate forget that it was in retaliation to him being roughed up to the face in the preceding tackle. This is a knee jerk reaction. we don’t need more rules, we need to enforce the rules that exist already. Gallen should have been sent from the field every day of the week (except wednesdays apparently). Tate should probably have had a sit down for that one too, but so should Gallen (for those who remember the incident) who escalated the whole situation. Blanket banning is ridiculous. Also what is the interpretation, if Gallen loses his mind again does whoever said mean things to him have to just wear it or risk going to the bin as well? Surely you can protect yourself? If I was NSW and Queensland though I would just start it off with an all in brawl. What are they going to do? Not advocating violence, advocating perspective. Marty Bella v Paul Harragon – Tops. What Manly did to Maurice Blair – Poor.

    • June 21st 2013 @ 7:24am
      Clevo said | June 21st 2013 @ 7:24am | ! Report

      “Life finds a way” – Jurassic park 1993
      The dinosaurs will rule again. Just wait

    • June 21st 2013 @ 7:38am
      Positive Rugby said | June 21st 2013 @ 7:38am | ! Report

      Poor comment removed.

      • June 21st 2013 @ 7:55am
        Crosscoder said | June 21st 2013 @ 7:55am | ! Report

        That’s silly ill informed PR.If the dinosaurs ruled the game,there would be no edict by D Smith.THE ARLC has taken away to a very strong degree the lobbying powers of the clubs.And indeed the clubs are getting CEOs with some nouse and understand responsibility to their code.Have a look at the penalties thrown at Tamou,Burgess and Ferguson.

        If they rule the game,all the penalties initiated by the admin,would have been softened is the dinosaurs that are feeling the pinch ,and about time.the Tommy Raudonikis attitudes went out with the brick phone.

        Your last line is uncalled for and just exemplifies the pompous attitude of some within your code,who at times have expressed similar attitdues to me. For the pot calling the kettle black,I return the “compliment ” Beale and Cooper how many chances.

        Depending on the offence any person is entitiled to a second chance.Even high profile well educated people who drive under the influence .That sir is also a criminal offence.It’s like aiming a loaded gun,but not pulling the trigger.

      • June 21st 2013 @ 8:41am
        eagleJack said | June 21st 2013 @ 8:41am | ! Report

        Positive Rugby back with more ill informed, negative vitriol.

        “Criminals and serious alcoholics are embraced in this game”


        • June 22nd 2013 @ 9:58am
          Positive Rugby said | June 22nd 2013 @ 9:58am | ! Report

          That is a misquote. Read my actual post in the context of the whole content of this blog stream and it is a completely valid comment. You just don’t like the truth of it perhaps?

          • June 23rd 2013 @ 9:59am
            Crosscoder said | June 23rd 2013 @ 9:59am | ! Report

            The taken out of context argument,is well worn,politicians and shock jocks are experts with the excuse.
            Give people some nouse in having the ability, to sort the wheat from the chaff.

      • June 21st 2013 @ 12:49pm
        NF said | June 21st 2013 @ 12:49pm | ! Report

        Shocking comment PR talk about generalization and stereotyping league. Can Roar editors fix the picture since it’s out of place and ruin the final paragraph.

    • June 21st 2013 @ 7:38am
      oikee said | June 21st 2013 @ 7:38am | ! Report

      It is amazing, but the call of bringing back the biff is on again, loud and clean from the ussual suspects. Matty Johns, the original bring back the biff cheerboy. And you have all the other NSW cheersquad all still trying to defend Gallens actions.
      They simply dont understand, it is not the biff that was banned, it was the Paul Gallen’s of this world.

      As someone said, 10 minutes in the bin none of this happens, well now you get 10 in the bin for a punch,(which we all think is fair i hope) yet listen to the dinosaurs squeal.
      Comments from ex-league players have to be dismissed as dinosaur attitudes with little knowleadge of the damage these actions have in this code. Sponsers and parents are our lifeblood, and these dinopsaurs show no common sense towards either of these important areas of the games future.

      The game is changing and as you said, the games on Sunday last week were amounst the best all year, not one punch thrown.
      I think the game needas some outside imput, i am bored with the ex-league dinosaurs from Sydney running this code into the ground with typical stupid comments.
      They do the game no favours and have little knowleadge of what their actions if listened to would cause the code.
      They never stopped shouting until the game was in damage control, and now things have settled they are out again sprouting rubbish.

      Joey Johns, Matty Johns, maybe the last 2 guys on the planet you would take advice from, apart from the playing of the game.

      • June 21st 2013 @ 8:30am
        warren said | June 21st 2013 @ 8:30am | ! Report

        Oikee – give it a rest with the Gallen issue. If it was a Qld player you would not be saying anything. The fact is that the game has been cleaned up considerable from what it used to be. Player issues are there but things have changed from the past. 30-40 years ago player issues were swept under the carpet by journalists who were too scared the players would not have drink with them after the game. Now they go after every little issue as though the game is about to implode.

        The fact that the Chairman of the ARLC is a Qld seems to have been lost on you. Yet you seem to blame every problem in the game based on some illusion that it is a NSW person in control and therefore this is the basis of the games ills. Like somehow a Qld person is going to come in and there will be no player issues or bad publicity in the game – please.

        RL dispite all the issues is a strong as ever across multiple areas including TV audiences, merchandise sales, participation and attendance. Get over it and give the “NSW people do not know what they are doing” line a rest as it is getting pathetic.

        • June 21st 2013 @ 9:53am
          bully said | June 21st 2013 @ 9:53am | ! Report

          Well said.

          • June 21st 2013 @ 12:37pm
            oikee said | June 21st 2013 @ 12:37pm | ! Report

            Leave me alone you bully.
            Warren what are you talking about, everything happening in rugby league since Origin 1 has come about after the Gallen incident.
            Do you honestly beleive that Dave Smith is sitting around doing nothing, not taking calls from psonsers, parent groups, coaches Governemnt departemnts that have backed this code only recently to a higher level, even Iin PNG.

            Mate, your taking nonesnese if you believe the bullies of this world, the Gallen affair has not gone away, and the NSW cheersquad are marons, lets have it said, no sense, just dills wihtout thought or reason.
            Blocker Roach, get behind him, he is one of your cheersquad, go on, follow him into the valley of death,. i wont be anywhere near you, you on your own sucker. Grab Freddie and the Johns genuiouses take them with you.
            Just dont expect them to change the toliet roll, a mission impossible.

            You guys are like the pack, following the leader, hey look our leader is out about and making comment, lets jump back on the bandwagon. Yeah right.

            • June 21st 2013 @ 12:59pm
              Peter the wise said | June 21st 2013 @ 12:59pm | ! Report

              Let me make it clear I am in no way condoning Gallen’s actions.

              What I am on about is your belief that somehow it is the worst that has happened to RL and somehow it is because NSW people are in charge of the game. And you have the hide to say NSW people are moron’s.

              The valley of death – for heaven sake what are you on man??

              • June 21st 2013 @ 2:40pm
                oikee said | June 21st 2013 @ 2:40pm | ! Report

                No, i and many others know and have known for along time that Sydney is a bubble, they believe their own dont stink. Well they quickly came undone when the your know what hit the fan and coaches, junior coaches, parents groups, and i am sure government groups questioned the sanity of the game with the tripe Gallen and daley were trying to dish out.
                The Johns brothers get on the bandwagon, we even had a filth piece by some dill which got Blocker Roach to make a disgusting comment.

                This game cant survive with such a inward looking code.
                Growth can only come from outside Sydney, even without Queensland this code is nothing more than a sydney comp dead in the water.
                Now Queensland has been supporting this code now for over 100 years, to be honest, i think even people in Queensland must be close to asking the question, have we made the wrong bet. ?

                I am not going to be dragged through the mud with ex-players trying to tell me wrong is right. Go you know what yourself.
                I am not lowering my standards, nor are Queenslanders lowering their stadards to gutter level
                I refuse and many others will follow, and i am a diehard.
                You can only cop so many times getting sand and mud kicked into your face.
                I would not be surprised to see alot more players move to Union if this is the rubbish dished out by our code. amen,

        • June 21st 2013 @ 10:41am
          reality bites said | June 21st 2013 @ 10:41am | ! Report

          actually, TV ratings are down

    • June 21st 2013 @ 7:39am
      warren said | June 21st 2013 @ 7:39am | ! Report

      NF – your article is one of the worse I have read on the roar. You clearly have not done any research on the topic and the article is riddled with paragraphs of inaccuracies.

      How do you know there are no KPI’s in the areas mentioned? Did you ask anyone at the NRL? Doubt it – rather you simply made up this point without any reference to the source of your complaint. By the way what is the participation rates, TV ratings and memberships over the years. A well written article would back up your issues with real facts a point seem to be lost on you when sitting down and writing this pointless piece.

      The new CEO is a highly experienced individual who I would say has more management experience than you would even be able to contemplate. He has put in a new structure and integrity unit that will deal with players in a better manner.

      In the end I doubt that you are a real RL supporter anyway and if you are then you are simply a whinger that does not know how to even put a decent argument together.

      • June 21st 2013 @ 12:10pm
        Australian Rules said | June 21st 2013 @ 12:10pm | ! Report

        I assume when NF said the NRL has “always been behind in every KPI” (the main quantifiable ones being attendance, membership, participation, TV well as sponsorship and revenue) he was referring to a comparison between it and the AFL.

        In any objective measure, the NRL is doing incredible well on these fronts as a professional competition…but it probably suffers a bit in the comparison. This is no more true than with attendances figures. Obviously the AFL’s crowds are abnormally big, but the NRL’s average attendances still sit within the Top 20 in the world for domestic football competitions. For a country of 23M and 4 other football codes, that’s remarkably good.

        At any rate, I reckon D.Smith will be a very good asset for the code and help to push it further.

        • June 21st 2013 @ 12:53pm
          NF said | June 21st 2013 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

          D.Smith is a positive for RL and should be embraced yet he gets criticized every waking minute by the media and supporters, give him time and I’m certain he will do good. Warren it’s no secret that in Australia RL is behind the other codes in various aspects such as national footprint, memberships, attendances, etc I was just pointing that out showing how backwards the code can be at times.

          It’s a fact that RL still holds onto dinosaur values one just needs to read about the outrage over the ‘biff’ being banned for example it’s gotta go for league to finally move forward and not stagnate or worst go backwards once more.

          • June 21st 2013 @ 1:08pm
            Peter the wise said | June 21st 2013 @ 1:08pm | ! Report

            They are behind the AFL who are up with the most highly supported code in the world per capita. What other sports are you talking about?

            My comments stand that this is a poorly written piece. Do some proper research before you make outlandish statements. For example if memberships are poor how do they really compared to the AFL and how have they grown or gone backwards in the last few years?

            Not real hard is it. Instead you make statements that leave yourself open to this criticism.

            In regards to Dinosaur values these should be directed at individuals for the “Biff” not the NRL who I presume that you support in their stance. Yet your article reads they are to blame for this and then you lump in a whole lot of other issues and how they are failing compared to some KPI’s that you have no idea about.

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      June 21st 2013 @ 8:13am
      Sleiman Azizi said | June 21st 2013 @ 8:13am | ! Report

      The dinosaurs may not be ruling the game but the detritus they have left behind is still a weight on the game.

      Jobs for the boys only works when the boys are competent. But inside of a pond, it’s often hard to compare.

      Good luck to the new breed.