Eels face $15,000 fine for Stuart outburst

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    Parramatta face a $15,000 fine after the NRL issued the Eels a breach notice following coach Ricky Stuart’s latest attack on referees’ boss Daniel Anderson.

    Stuart labelled the 13-6 penalty count against Parramatta in Sunday’s 30-10 loss to South Sydney a disgrace and claimed most coaches in the league didn’t think Anderson was doing the right job.

    “To keep my job, I don’t communicate with Daniel Anderson because I don’t agree with what he’s doing,” Stuart said.

    “I know a lot of other coaches, or most, are the same in regards to my thoughts.”

    The Eels have five business days to make submissions in relation to the breach notice.

    “There are clear guidelines for coaches and officials in regards to commenting on decisions and they do not permit an attack on a match official’s character or integrity,” said the NRL general manager of football operations Nathan McGuirk in a statement.

    “To question the competency of the match officials and the head of the referees in that manner is not acceptable.”

    Parramatta have already been fined $10,000 this season for Stuart’s lambasting of Anderson after the Eels’ round-six loss to the Gold Coast.

    “Since we played the Gold Coast and I had my little tantrum with the referees, we train with discipline,” Stuart said.

    “I’ve tried to get the boys to live with discipline. We’ve worked that hard in regards to our discipline off the footy field at training.

    “We cannot be so different every week to the opposition – not penalty counts but what we’re getting penalised for.

    “Most of them are deserved but the same actions aren’t being penalised with the opposition team.

    “We haven’t got a football team that can handle that … I’ve got to stand up and say that for the fans and the players.

    “It wouldn’t be right of me if I didn’t.”

    Stuart said coaches of the top sides were wary of criticising Anderson.

    “I don’t know what his job description is, but I don’t believe it’s being fulfilled. It’s very, very frustrating,” he said.

    “Sometimes the truth hurts. Sometimes people don’t like hearing what actually is happening out there.

    “A lot of other coaches won’t say this because they’re all trying to fight (for) a spot for the eight and they don’t want to upset the apple cart.”

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    • June 25th 2013 @ 6:36am
      Pomoz said | June 25th 2013 @ 6:36am | ! Report

      Good work Ricky. You set such a good example to your players. You don’t like an outcome so you throw your toys out of the pram and resort to vindictive personal attacks.What if the players followed your example and started running down the coach and the board in the media? How do you expect young players to treat referees and people in positions of authority with respect, when you clearly don’t? You need to take a long hard look at yourself.

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        June 25th 2013 @ 10:09am
        steve b said | June 25th 2013 @ 10:09am | ! Report

        Pomoz I don’t know how many games you have played or watched , but mate stick with the facts when making comments and leave your bias out of it , blind freddy could see that what Stuart was saying is true . Not just in the Parra game but across the board . The standard of refs of late is poor , you can pick any game on any weekend and see what Stuart is on about , its called consistency and a fair go which seem to allude the refs . We were promised that when Anderson took over that there would be big changes in the way the game was officiated , laying on the player after the tackle , nothing has changed , the strip , nothing , flat forward passes , the obstruction , laying around in the play the ball , stepping forward of the mark in the play the ball and and .Nothing has changed and Stuart is right and at least he has got the balls to say something . And mate I guess you didn’t listen to what he had to say about the game , or your just another Sticky hater call a spade a spade . And who is allowed to say how it is and not get fined , the system is a joke and needs a massive overhaul , and mate I think people like yourself need to make an appointment with opsm and get your eyes checked and young players hate getting ripped of to , so unless someone in authority stands up and says something nothing is going to change .

        • June 25th 2013 @ 10:27am
          Pomoz said | June 25th 2013 @ 10:27am | ! Report

          Steve, OK let’s talk about facts. I am not a “Sticky hater” as you put it but I’m not a fan either, but he does have form when it comes to criticising refs. The problem is, it is against the NRL rules to make comments about the referee. That is a fact. Ricky broke the rules. That is a fact. The example he has set to his players is, “it is OK to break the rules if you are not happy with something”. His comments about Anderson are rude, personal and highlight Ricky’s arrogance and paranoia. How would Ricky like it if Daniel Anderson came out and said “I don’t know what’s in Ricky’s job description is, but coaching isn’t one of them. I mean, his team are last. What a fool”. Whether he is right and Daniel Anderson is not doing his job well, doesn’t matter. If every time you didn’t like an outcome you decided to break the rules, chaos would reign.

          You want to change the system and allow open slather on criticism. Referees make mistakes, that is a fact of life. Who in their right mind would want to be a referee if coaches were allowed to go around making disparaging comments about their performance constantly. It undermines their credibility and makes it harder for them to officiate.

          The last referees boss was heavily criticised and hounded out and now we are working on getting rid of the next one.

          • June 25th 2013 @ 10:56am
            B.A Sports said | June 25th 2013 @ 10:56am | ! Report

            Pomoz, lets correct your “facts”. It isn’t against the rules to comment on the officials, it is against the rules to question their integrity.

            In my opinion he was just questioning their competence, not integrity.

            • June 25th 2013 @ 2:27pm
              Pomoz said | June 25th 2013 @ 2:27pm | ! Report

              I never said that Ricky questioned Daniel Anderson’s integrity, but since you raised it I agree that he didn’t question either integrity or honesty. However, questioning integrity and honesty is just one of the rules that apply to comments about NRL officials. I didn’t want a legal argument over whether Ricky’s comments are in breach of the rules. You believe that they are OK. The NRL has found differently and they probably would have got legal advice to ensure they were within their rights to issue a fine.

              A brief read of the NRL Code Of Conduct reveals that questioning the competence of the referee is in breach of section 31 (making adverse public comment on an employee of the NRL, or a match official), or section 17(1) (abuse of an employee of the NRL. Abuse is defined to include insult), or section 14 (impair public confidence in the NRL). Take your pick.

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            June 25th 2013 @ 11:17am
            steve b said | June 25th 2013 @ 11:17am | ! Report

            Mate yes I would like to change the rules and allow coaches to have their say on the way they thought that their game was officiated without being fined , I would also like to see transparency from the refs when they make mistakes these guys are supposed to be professional , not bloody untouchable . And mate its not so much refs making mistakes its being consistent , when they have penalised a team and don’t penalise the other team for doing exactly the same thing , this is the problem , and you can see this happen in any game you choose . And mate all payers are criticised if they play a bad game so why not the refs ,And come on Stuart has been bagged since day dot I don’t think he would give a rat’s about what Anderson says , it would be water of a ducks back . And mate where is Bennets team their not coming last , their has been more than one coach bag the way their team has been treated by the refs this year . But it seems when Stuart does it oh look out , for mine good on him .

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          June 25th 2013 @ 6:57pm
          Bazzio said | June 25th 2013 @ 6:57pm | ! Report

          If anyone brings the game into disrepute, it’s the ref’s & D Anderson. Ricky says Anderson has admitted to the continual ref errors time and again, and as Ricky says, nothing happens as a result. To me that begs a question ~ WHY?

    • June 25th 2013 @ 7:28am
      oikee said | June 25th 2013 @ 7:28am | ! Report

      Fined 15 grand for being honest.

    • June 25th 2013 @ 8:05am
      The eye said | June 25th 2013 @ 8:05am | ! Report

      Recent RLW player poll had 54% of players believing lesser clubs cop a raw deal from the refs.Parra were awful at times in that game but they also clearly copped some tough penalties as did the Tigers the night before.He said Anderson is doing a bad job why is that a $15k offence,Ricky knew it was going to cost him money and barbs but said it anyway.So true,rules are as confusing as ever and officialdom as poor

      • June 25th 2013 @ 9:22am
        Gareth said | June 25th 2013 @ 9:22am | ! Report

        I don’t know that the Tigers copped any tough penalties, I think the overall standard of the refereeing was just poor all around. The Raiders had 2-3 penalties go against them from poor Tigers ball security, and had 2-3 clear strips called as knock ons. The only 50/50 call I saw the Raiders get was the Reece Robinson not held ruling.

    • June 25th 2013 @ 8:24am
      B.A Sports said | June 25th 2013 @ 8:24am | ! Report

      Not a huge Stuart fan, and he will no doubt cop it on here today but he is right. He wasn’t sayng the refs cost his team the game on Sunday he is saying what we see. it isn’t a level playing field out there at the moment. From that game on Sunday, I would love to see the splits on the tackles. The Eels were getting up off the tackeld player at a pretty fare pace and Souths were knocking guys to the ground after held was called.. repeatedly. Its hard to be competitive when that happens all day.

      Unfortunately complaining will probably only make it worse for his team, which he probably has himself to blame for, but like he says most of the other coaches are in the hunt and if they complain, they’ll find it pretty tough to..

    • June 25th 2013 @ 8:27am
      liatrevlis said | June 25th 2013 @ 8:27am | ! Report

      So how much are the refs being docked for there performances , poor refs = huge losses for clubs , not just points but sponsor $$$$, give it to em sticky , hey oik get a hat going round il tip in $50 to start , ya know if the fans did a collection and picked up Stickys tab them maybe Smithy would look seriously at grilling these pathetic refs,

      • June 25th 2013 @ 10:35am
        Pomoz said | June 25th 2013 @ 10:35am | ! Report

        Great idea. And when coaches make poor decisions and select the wrong tactics and players we should dock their wages as well. When a player knocks on, misses a tackle or gives away a penalty we should fine them. It could be lucrative given how often people make mistakes. If we can put your idea in place we will have people queuing up to become referees so they can get their wages docked and be publicly denigrated by coaches. Awesome, where do I sign?

        Referees get dropped to lower grades when they don’t perform, just like the players. If we want them to perform better, maybe we need to give them more training and increase their wages to attract higher calibre individuals.

        • June 25th 2013 @ 1:11pm
          liatrevlis said | June 25th 2013 @ 1:11pm | ! Report

          Yeh that’s the solution more pay ,,, dude there not worth what there on at the moment you wanna give em more

          • June 25th 2013 @ 2:31pm
            Pomoz said | June 25th 2013 @ 2:31pm | ! Report

            Pay was only pat of what I said, training is also an issue. Have you a better suggestion on how we attract high calibre people who will make good refs? Obviously your first idea is to pay them less, so lets start with that. Then what?

            • June 25th 2013 @ 3:45pm
              liatrevlis said | June 25th 2013 @ 3:45pm | ! Report

              The refs currently ball zing it up have been around a whie now so if they can’t do the job sack em , biggest problem is this game is open to “interpretation ” so my idea of ruck speed may not be the same as yours , my idea of a forward pass may not be te same as yours, one ref to start with and make the touch judges work instead of being mobile flag holders , that’s a start

    • June 25th 2013 @ 9:24am
      Gareth said | June 25th 2013 @ 9:24am | ! Report

      I hope the Eels are making Ricky pay his own fines. They really need to start socking away $10k here and $15k there in advance of paying out Ricky’s contract when they eventually man up and sack him.

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