Give it a rest against Cooper

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    Booing Quade Cooper at ANZ Stadium last Saturday night didn’t achieve anything. It’s a hangover from Hong Kong in 2010.

    In that match, Cooper shoved All Blacks skipper Richie McCaw by the head after James O’Connor has scored a last-minute try, then converted it from touch for a 26-24 victory.

    There were a couple of brushes between the two until the one the Kiwi fans were booing at ANZ, the alleged kneeing of McCaw by Cooper at Suncorp in 2011 in the Tri-Nations decider.

    Cooper was cited and found not guilty of any wrong-doing, but in many of the Kiwi fans’ eyes, he was in the wrong and should have been suspended.

    That spilled over into the Rugby World Cup, and judging from last Saturday night, the anti-Cooper feeling is still there.

    Which translates to something far bigger in Wellington next Saturday night, which looms as a sell-out.

    Get over it Kiwis, get a life. Something tells me that won’t happen.

    Now if the Wallaby fans were booing Colin Meads for purposely ripping Wallaby legend Ken Catchpole in half at the SCG in 1968 to end his magnificent career, I would lead the protesters.

    What compounded the disgrace, Dr Roger Vanderfield was the referee, Meads wasn’t even penalised and it happened right in front of Vanderfield. Years later Meads was knighted, one of rugby’s blackest moments.

    It would be like knighting Richard Loe for deliberately smashing Wallaby winger Paul Carozza’s nose all over his face when the Australian scored in a 1992 Bledisloe.

    What Cooper did to McCaw was puerile compared to Meads and Loe. But when fans get a bee under their bonnet, there’s not much that can be done to stop it.

    Just as a matter of interest, I surfed the internet to find other “hated” sportsmen, and came up with four shocks – Lleyton Hewitt, Phil Mickelson, Kobe Bryant, and Barry Bonds.

    We know Hewitt as a 100 percenter on court, with a huge heart. When he’s won or done, there’s nothing left in the tank.

    But Hewitt was taken to the cleaners by Mary Carillo, former circuit player, and now an outstanding television commentator.

    “Hewitt drives the guys crazy. They try to ignore him, but he’s always barking on the other side of the net”.

    Hewitt has had many run-ins with Argentinians, mainly Juan Ignacio Chela, who shouldered Hewitt on a changeover and spat on him during the 2005 Australian Open,

    But it’s Chela’s Davis Cup mate Guillerno Coria who dropped the bucket on the Aussie,

    “Hewitt is disliked by every other player on the international circuit”.

    Don’t know about you Roarers, but that comment doesn’t equate to me.

    Nor does the vitriol thrown at Phil Mickelson, one of the few golfers who spends up to two hours every day signing autographs for adults and kids alike.

    “That’s all part of the sham, the big smile and the preening, which is why his nickname on tour is FIGJAM – f*** I’m good, just ask me,” said a tour pro who wasn’t named.

    Basketball legend Kobe Bryant was taken to the cleaners as well, this time by Greg Anthony, former NBA player and now ESPN analyst.

    “He’s a very selfish player, he’s only for himself, and has always been accused of not endearing himself to team-mates”.

    And Barry Bonds, who for 22 years played Major League Baseball always with a bad attitude, with a record 742 home runs, and a litany of run-ins with most people, including the law.

    For the majority of those 22 years, Bonds was the undisputed winner of the MDP award – the Most Despised Player.

    So Quade, you are not in that league, so just get on with it, and start winning some games for the Wallabies – boos and all.

    David Lord
    David Lord

    David Lord was deeply involved in two of the biggest sporting stories - World Series Cricket in 1977 and professional rugby in 1983. After managing Jeff Thomson and Viv Richards during WSC, in 1983 David signed 208 of the best rugby players from Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and France to play an international pro circuit. The concept didn?t get off the ground, but it did force the IRB to get cracking and bring in the World Rugby Cup, now one of the world?s great sporting spectacles

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    • August 20th 2013 @ 5:59am
      Snobby Deans said | August 20th 2013 @ 5:59am | ! Report

      Alleged kneeing? What planet are you on, David?

      • August 20th 2013 @ 8:36am
        Dally M said | August 20th 2013 @ 8:36am | ! Report

        Well it was alleged, then the SANZAR Judiciary found Cooper not guilty, therefore any continuing suggestion that he did knee him is just that, an allegation.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 12:56pm
          Rebel said | August 20th 2013 @ 12:56pm | ! Report

          Disagree, it is plain as day that the knee made contact with the head, the clearance was for a deliberate action.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 1:19pm
            Dally M said | August 20th 2013 @ 1:19pm | ! Report

            Right, so he was cleared of a deliberate action, therefore it was deemed accidental contact & if you are to continue to say it was kneeing it is only an allegation because it was officially deemed otherwise.

            It doesn’t matter what you, i or anyone else thinks it was.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 1:33pm
              Rebel said | August 20th 2013 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

              What I am saying is it was a knee to the head that was not deliberate. Not that hard really.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 4:43pm
              Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 4:43pm | ! Report

              Its was deemed that they could not say it was deliberate.
              Just because you cant prove that something was deliberate does not make it accidental in the same way that if you cant prove it was accidental it does not mean it was deliberate.

              I thought it was on purpose but I can see how it would be difficult to prove.

      • August 20th 2013 @ 9:15am
        Selector said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:15am | ! Report

        He has to say alleged… Cooper was found not guilty. Otherwise it would be defamation.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 9:54am
          Hal said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:54am | ! Report

          not only defamation the kiwi whingeing would be cranked up to 11. Even on a windy day like today in Sydney you can still hear the constant drone of whingeing kiwi’s. They have not only taken the mantle from the poms they’ve super-glued it to their heads.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 10:09am
            RebelRanger said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:09am | ! Report

            Mate almost all your posts here are whingeing. Try not to whinge when calling others out on it.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 11:52am
              Shop said | August 20th 2013 @ 11:52am | ! Report

              The biggest problem was that SANZAR found him NOT guilty. If he was suspended for a match or two for what was a blatant contact (though hardly full force) the matter would most likely have been put to bed.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 3:40pm
            Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 3:40pm | ! Report

            Whos whinging, those that boo Cooper for being a d1Ā©k or those whinging that we boo him?

            I think its great that there are people that the crowd loves to hate. I think whats really the issue here is that he was booed in Sydney, not NZ and that has ruffled a few feathers.

            What should be given a rest is Australians telling us how to support our team.
            David you do what you want to when you watch the game and we will do what we want to, OK?

            • August 25th 2013 @ 8:22am
              Xiedazhou said | August 25th 2013 @ 8:22am | ! Report

              Well maybe in your homeland, you Kiwis can behave as you wish. In someone else’s country Kiwis should show some respect towards the host nation and its representatives….

              And for all those arguing that the Coopers knee made contact with McCaws head, therefore he was guilty, how about McCaw’s kneeing of Parra? Much more force, and detrimental effect there?

      • August 20th 2013 @ 12:07pm
        Starchild said | August 20th 2013 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

        I live in the surrounding hills a few miles out of Wellington and will make a trip to the Wellington city. I will probably hitch hike and leave my car at home. I have a convertible with no alarm with a great stereo. There is no way I’m putting that temptation near Cooper.

        If I see Cooper at the ground I will not boo him, well I’ll try my best not to, though if I see him around town I will. It has to be gradual, slowly weaning him off..cold turkey just wont work.

      • August 20th 2013 @ 12:53pm
        Jokerman said | August 20th 2013 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

        See how David brings up violence from New Zealanders from a long time ago, to support his position that what Cooper has received is unjust. Cooper received a noise and under the current climate, its not vitriol, it’s theatreatrics and this is rugby with mass crowds so the public will be more rough, then say, the ballet where this would not happen.

        When someone complains or is upset about something it is rarely the situation they are upset with, it is always, almost a deeper cause that gives the pain and moaning to the individual.

        So what’s what the core problem here? It’s the loss, no bledisloe, little form, no cup for 11 years. But it takes a bit of strength to be at one with your core and see the truth, most are not and just complain and moan about something that has really nothing to do with their problem

        • Roar Guru

          August 20th 2013 @ 12:56pm
          Argyle said | August 20th 2013 @ 12:56pm | ! Report

          Thanks Buddah. I am off to hug and tree and save a gay whale…

          • August 20th 2013 @ 2:03pm
            dwayne said | August 20th 2013 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

          • August 20th 2013 @ 4:31pm
            Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 4:31pm | ! Report

            Perhaps you should give reason a go Uncle. By the sounds of your comment, in which you make fun of the acceptance of gay people and conservation, you need to give it a go.

          • Roar Guru

            August 20th 2013 @ 7:35pm
            sheek said | August 20th 2013 @ 7:35pm | ! Report


            Is there such a thing? A tree, I mean….. šŸ˜‰

            • August 21st 2013 @ 4:19am
              Andrew C (waikato) said | August 21st 2013 @ 4:19am | ! Report

              A PINETREE , maybe Sheek šŸ™‚ ….. but a gay Pinetree, heaven forbid NO šŸ™‚ btw there’s lots of gay whales down @ Kaikoura – they have whales watches & the whales are very happy to keep the time !! šŸ™‚

        • August 20th 2013 @ 1:18pm
          Garth said | August 20th 2013 @ 1:18pm | ! Report

          I take it that you don’t follow news reports on Russian ballet then? With it’s assaults, death threats & attacks with acid. Ballet is NOT a safe, polite enviroment.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 2:35pm
            Starchild said | August 20th 2013 @ 2:35pm | ! Report

            I follow the Russian news Garth. Like I have said on here before, Australia should select the Faingaa twins, two men who dress up as woman, to protest against the Russians.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 3:52pm
          Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 3:52pm | ! Report

          Exactly Jokerman.
          Its not the booing that they are upset about.

      • August 20th 2013 @ 2:18pm
        In Brief said | August 20th 2013 @ 2:18pm | ! Report

        Great article. It’s quite sad how much time and effort New Zealanders put towards hating the ‘big brother’ across the ditch. Richie McCaw commits more ‘below the belt’ hits in one match than Cooper has done in a lifetime. Pathetic.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 2:59pm
          Jokerman said | August 20th 2013 @ 2:59pm | ! Report

          The biggest thing I notice on here, the roar, is the Australian’s, not all, but a lot, get nasty when they lose. See the vitriol coming out? It happened post RWC when NZ won. If it wasn’t the booing towards Cooper it would be something else.

          The All blacks have a deep pride like a lion and draw on that extra strength. If Australia had won on the weekend, I would have taken it on the chin and said congratulations, man-ed up, just like the All Blacks. If McCaw had been booed and we had lost there is no way I would whinge about it, I would look like an absolute pussy.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 6:09pm
            sofathefelloffthesofa said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:09pm | ! Report

            Ah, now is see why you call yourself jokerman.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 7:00pm
            NoJokeMan said | August 20th 2013 @ 7:00pm | ! Report

            Agree Jokerman.

            Quade Cooper started this crap by dishing it out, and now, aussies crying cause its unfair. Blah blah blah. All I heard from aussie commentators when Quade started this was laughs and giggles, not finding it so funny when it has been turned around? I hope McCaw gets him at the bottom of a ruck and introduces him to his knee.
            Kiwi’s, keep booing this guy! He obviously can’t handle the pressure as shown in the Reds dismal performance against the Crusaders in the SR play-offs.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 9:04pm
            Boomeranga said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:04pm | ! Report

            Where do death threats against a referee fit in your world view Jokerman? What about the bottles thrown at the French? Spitting on us and booing our anthem? Honestly mate, climb off your high horse and shoot the mangy, flea bitten nag because you blokes are as deep in the gutter as anyone else.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 3:25pm
          mikel said | August 20th 2013 @ 3:25pm | ! Report

          In Brief???? More like “In Fairyland”…
          It’s not the eastern side of the Tasman that all the sheep shagging etc crap comes from – That blows over from the west of the Tasman – Talk about ‘one-eyed’.
          Your time would be better spent focusing on next Saturdays game and how to improve – lose that and it’ll be – how long now – oh yes – that’ll be 11 times then.
          Guess NZ will never hear the end of that…. bet it won’t be “in brief” either.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 4:38pm
          Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 4:38pm | ! Report

          McCaw doesnt play dirty.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 9:37pm
            Boomeranga said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:37pm | ! Report

            The picture at the top of this article … Can you explain that to me?

    • August 20th 2013 @ 6:01am
      Hurl said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:01am | ! Report

      It’s pantomime stuff, keep alive by articles like this. Between you and Michael Hooper……

      • August 20th 2013 @ 10:02am
        jameswm said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:02am | ! Report

        and Israel Dagg…

    • August 20th 2013 @ 6:13am
      krisl said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:13am | ! Report

      kiwi fans don’t listen to you david……… if booing QC gives the allblacks any advantages…… I don’t see why the kiwi fans should stop……

      • August 20th 2013 @ 6:47am
        Red Mullet said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:47am | ! Report

        The vitriol from across the Tasman towards Australia in all sports has been around for generations, its been growing since Cooper nudged McCaw and Cooper is now a focal point. It will now increase, not diminish. Its small stuff, from small minded, feeble and piss poor attitudes. Get over it.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 7:51am
          Emric said | August 20th 2013 @ 7:51am | ! Report

          The New Zealand attitude towards Australia has always been a reflection of the Australian attitude towards New Zealand

          • Roar Guru

            August 20th 2013 @ 8:43am
            Jiggles said | August 20th 2013 @ 8:43am | ! Report

            If we gave you any thought, we probably would.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 9:51am
              Emric said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:51am | ! Report

              Thats the biggest problem for you Jiggles is we beat you often enough in so many sports you are forced to take notice of us

              Rugby, Netball, Basketball, League. We’ve even had our moment in the sun in cricket and a whole range and raft of other sports the only difference between us is we achieve with a population of 4 million

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2013 @ 10:10am
                Jiggles said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:10am | ! Report

                Well if you want to live vicariously through people with significantly better physical skill just because they hold the same passport, that’s your prerogative.

                Ill just go on with being content and thankful to be born in a country that doesn’t fall a part when a few cows produce bad milk šŸ˜‰

              • August 20th 2013 @ 10:30am
                Emric said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:30am | ! Report

                No it goes into meltdown when a few mining companies figure out a new way to dodge the tax scheme

                The Australian economy is in a very bad way be thankful you have a job

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2013 @ 10:35am
                Jiggles said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:35am | ! Report

                I just do a kiwi and get in line at centrelink šŸ™‚

              • August 20th 2013 @ 10:50am
                Emric said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:50am | ! Report

                Jiggles don’t you mean WINZ. Aussies are entitled to Vote, obtained student loans, and even gain the dole while they live in New Zealand. I live in Melbourne and sad to say I have a savings account for that special moment when my job is done and dusted and I might need to return to New Zealand. I pay a lot of taxes each year (around 14,000) and yet I get next to no benefits.

                šŸ™‚ so its not kiwis joining the center link queues its lazy Aussies who can’t be bothered working who’s dole cheques are being funded by Kiwis who do work

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2013 @ 10:59am
                Jiggles said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:59am | ! Report

                If you stop booing cooper you might get a couple of benefits šŸ˜‰

              • August 20th 2013 @ 11:52am
                BUDGIE said | August 20th 2013 @ 11:52am | ! Report

                Yes and proudly known as scabs across work sites all over Australia

              • August 20th 2013 @ 1:01pm
                Rebel said | August 20th 2013 @ 1:01pm | ! Report

                Wow, you can get moderated around here for some baffling things yet the Roar allow these types of bigoted posts. Unbelievable.

              • August 20th 2013 @ 3:54pm
                Zero Gain said | August 20th 2013 @ 3:54pm | ! Report

                The NZ government requested that Kiwis lose all benefits in Australia in an attempt to stem the flow accross the Tasman. Its your countrymen that are responsible for that.

              • August 20th 2013 @ 4:08pm
                Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 4:08pm | ! Report

                Know as scabs by bigots all accross Aus you mean?

              • August 20th 2013 @ 6:16pm
                sofathefelloffthesofa said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:16pm | ! Report

                ‘Aussies are entitled to Vote, obtained student loans, and even gain the dole while they live in New Zealand’

                Gees, better stand back so I don’t get run over by all the Ozzys wanting to immigrate to NZ!

              • August 20th 2013 @ 6:58pm
                Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:58pm | ! Report

                You should come over.
                We have 10 super rugby teams full of outstanding Kiwi talent (5 are based in Aus).

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2013 @ 9:29pm
                biltongbek said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:29pm | ! Report

                One of them are Actually South African (Force) šŸ˜‰

              • August 20th 2013 @ 10:43pm
                Jimmycrackcorn said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:43pm | ! Report

                Emric if the economy is in such bad way you’d better tell the 50,000 plus kiwis heading to Australia. Bragging about the paltry amout of tax you pay is pathetic. To suggest that in it some way contributes to anything more than the sugar in the immigration tea room speaks volumes for your intellegence. You are obviously not in a skilled postion which highlights the ridiculous inequity in the agreement between Australia and New Zealand. There are tens of thousands of deserving refugees pleading for their lives yet Australia limits their intake and allows your brethren carte Blanche.

                If the Australian government cannot make room for these poor wretches surely the morally superior Kiwis living under our protection could volunteer to make room. You mention that the dole is readily available in NZ which puts you in a far better position than someone fleeing the Taliban.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 8:47pm
              Rob G said | August 20th 2013 @ 8:47pm | ! Report

              So I get banned from commenting for suggesting horwill is a rubbish captain because he goes missing in big games, yet all this is allowed to fly. What a joke the mods are.

          • Roar Guru

            August 20th 2013 @ 12:07pm
            Argyle said | August 20th 2013 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

            Thats it Emric I’ve had enough of these foul taunts and I challenge you…ESKI’S at dawn!

            (Translation Eski…’Chilli-Bun)

            or perhaps another weapon of your choice?

            (Choice- not the Kiwi version of good – how TF you come up with that god only knows. I mean choice as in the English meaning that you have options)

            Shall we say Thongs at dawn!

            (Translation – Thongs – Jandles)

            Location can be my holiday home!

            (Holiday home- batch….a batch FFS!)

            And if your the winner I have to watch Good by pork pie or a season of Shortland street whilst drinking Lion Brown and wearing an ill fitting Buller rugby jumper circa 1973

            If I win – mate your up “The Castle” and or a season of Neighbours – yes Scott and Charlene wedding episode whilst drinking VB in lets say a Rowing one piece….oh you already wear one. Ok How about just a Wallaby jumper!

            Challenge? – (Haka)

            • August 20th 2013 @ 1:55pm
              Emric said | August 20th 2013 @ 1:55pm | ! Report

              I am well versed in Australian English.
              Haka translates as Dance (which challenge can be part of).

              If you change that to Tui for you and XXXX gold for me then you’ve got a deal šŸ™‚

              • Roar Guru

                August 20th 2013 @ 2:01pm
                Argyle said | August 20th 2013 @ 2:01pm | ! Report


                (Good stuff mate šŸ™‚ )

              • August 20th 2013 @ 7:20pm
                Ra said | August 20th 2013 @ 7:20pm | ! Report

                And thongs are G string bikini bottoms – much better than mankinis, perish the thought of seeing most Roarers in either get up – doesn’t matter whether you’re Kiwi or Aussie – I think we ALL agree on that

        • August 20th 2013 @ 8:26am
          krisl said | August 20th 2013 @ 8:26am | ! Report

          red learn to live with it……..

          • August 20th 2013 @ 1:07pm
            Red Mullet said | August 20th 2013 @ 1:07pm | ! Report

            I do and I love it

    • August 20th 2013 @ 6:20am
      Winston said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:20am | ! Report

      Since we are bringing up ancient history. Hadley’s a what? How’s the view from up thee on ur horse. šŸ™‚ but seriously it has gone on too long. So long the Aussies in Sydney are starting to join in on the fun.

      • Roar Pro

        August 20th 2013 @ 6:38am
        Liam Ovenden said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:38am | ! Report

        They weren’t Aussies booing on Saturday night. I was there and the stadium was full of kiwis, and they were the ones doing it.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 9:31am
          Mysonsaremaggots said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:31am | ! Report

          Really, think you need to change the saying from Whingeing Poms to Whingeing Aussies. Cant win anything at the moment so we will just whinge about nothing.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 9:45am
          Hal said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:45am | ! Report

          The stadium was full of kiwi’s? Was Centrelink giving away free tickets?

          • August 20th 2013 @ 10:35am
            DR said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:35am | ! Report

            i didnt get one.

          • August 20th 2013 @ 10:58am
            mapu said | August 20th 2013 @ 10:58am | ! Report


          • August 20th 2013 @ 4:01pm
            Tane Mahuta said | August 20th 2013 @ 4:01pm | ! Report

            Im worried that one day the US might tell Aus to win at rugby Hal.
            Only because Aus seems to do everything the US tells them to.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 7:01pm
              Garth said | August 20th 2013 @ 7:01pm | ! Report

              Unfortunately, John Key and his fellow sock puppets seem to be willing to the same. Even to the extent of changing the laws governing our spy agencies to do so.

            • August 20th 2013 @ 9:54pm
              Hal said | August 20th 2013 @ 9:54pm | ! Report

              oooh how witty. ouch Tane bro that hurt.

        • August 20th 2013 @ 7:16pm
          Greg said | August 20th 2013 @ 7:16pm | ! Report

          I was there and I saw Aussies booing to. I know a few Aussies that can’t stand him. I also noticed that when I was in the reds members area after the 2011 super rugby final, many of my fellow reds members booed McCaw when he was walkin up to do his after match speech. Funny the likes of David and Jiggles never mentioned that?

    • August 20th 2013 @ 6:28am
      Darwin Stubbie said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:28am | ! Report

      Meads and Loe ??? … and you expect this piece to be taken seriously ? …

      • August 25th 2013 @ 8:34am
        Xiedazhou said | August 25th 2013 @ 8:34am | ! Report

        I think its quite apt to mention those guys actually. Particularly Meads, whose brutish behaviour on the field wasnt restricted to ending Catchpole’s career, and significantly impacting his life after rugby. Yet Meads is venerated in the Hobbit Isles, but Cooper, who made accidental contact with McCaw is villified. Pathetic really.

    • Roar Guru

      August 20th 2013 @ 6:28am
      biltongbek said | August 20th 2013 @ 6:28am | ! Report

      I don’t think many will care how any Quade supporter will feel about the booing.

      In their minds eye Cooper is the villain, and an opportunity to boo him is all they have.

      Best Cooper accepts he can do little to change it and just focus on his game.

      Whether it is immature or not, really doesn’t matter to those who keep booing.

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