What we learnt from the second week of the AFL finals

By Avatar / Roar Guru

If the two AFL semi-finals were anything to go by, both Geelong and Sydney could find it difficult to overcome their preliminary final opponents.

The Geelong Cats, surprise losers to Fremantle in the first week of the finals, rebounded well to defeat Port Adelaide by 16 points, but not before they were given a scare by a team that were not expected to contend at all this season.

The Power, which underwent an overhaul of its coaching staff and administration after a few disappointing years following their most recent September campaign in 2007, took it right up to the opposition in the first half.

Leading by 23 points at half-time, an upset looked right on the cards.

This was the same team that were on the receiving end of the worst ever AFL grand final defeat in history, on this very ground, back in 2007.

That was the only other time the Power and the Cats met at the MCG.

Only five of the 22 players who survived that bloodbath six years ago were represented in this Power side, which put in a more competitive effort in a match which mattered less.

Of those five, Kane Cornes is also the only survivor from the team that tasted the ultimate success back in 2004, though Shaun Burgoyne is still running around at Hawthorn.

This team has the potential to continue to do very well in 2014. Just how they will cope with the pressure of continuing to deliver week-in, week-out will be the most interesting question long-suffering Power fans will want answered.

The Cats were expected to bounce back given that they had the home ground advantage and hadn’t lost to Port since the penultimate round of the 2007 season.

The Cats had already beaten the Power easily both times in the regular season, but this match proved to be as close as any during the Cats’ ongoing dominance of the men from Alberton.

It also proves that the Cats’ off performance at home against Fremantle was simply a one-off.

And should they continue their dominance against Hawthorn on Friday night, you can confidently bet on them becoming the first team since West Coast in 2006 to win the flag after losing their first qualifying final.

But the Cats’ bid to continue their dominance against Hawthorn – one which stretches back to their shock loss in the 2008 grand final – could be derailed if the man who has inspired this dominance is rubbed out of the preliminary final.

Paul Chapman, whose vow “never to lose to Hawthorn again” has inspired the Cats to 11 straight victories over the Hawks, could be suspended if he is found guilty of a head-high bump on Port Adelaide’s Robbie Gray.

The Hawks, for their part, will be desperate to end that frustrating losing streak.

If there is any inspiration that Hawthorn desperately need in their bid to end their 11-game curse against the Cats, it’s that Sydney did the same against Collingwood in last year’s prelims.

The Swans had not beaten Collingwood in 11previous meetings prior to the 2012 preliminary final, but the red-and-whites smashed that curse in emphatic fashion en route to claiming the flag.

What Sydney were able to do last year can inspire the Hawks to finally end the Kennett curse. If they did finish victorious on grand final day, it would make up for last year’s 10-point loss to the Swans after being heavily favoured in the lead-up.

Interestingly, the Hawks haven’t lost to the Swans since that last Saturday in September last year, though their dominance has only lasted three matches.

Only when they win ten straight against John Longmire’s men can we then initiate the “Longmire curse” – or the “Colless curse”, if you like.

The only difference is no one from the Swans hierarchy attacked the Hawks for lacking the mentality to beat them, nor did this occur prior to any subsequent matches between the two sides.

The Swans’ premiership defence is still alive thanks to a terrific 24-point victory over lucky losers Carlton at ANZ Stadium on Saturday night.

Injuries have attempted to sabotage their premiership defence throughout the year.

To counter this, the Swans made sure that it would not weaken the team by fast-tracking the rise of many of its young players, namely Dane Rampe, Harry Cunningham (who kicked his first two career goals in the match), Brandon Jack and Xavier Richards, among others.

Rampe has been a revelation for the team this year, impressively filling in the void that was vacated by Alex Johnson’s season-ending knee injury during the pre-season and Rhyce Shaw’s injury struggles over the course of the season.

Adam Goodes, Sam Reid and Lewis Jetta have also spent prolonged periods of time on the sidelines, but Sydney have been able to cope without them for most of the season.

Their absences have also given us an insight into what life will be in Sydney when Goodes, in particular, retires in the next few years.

Jude Bolton will retire at the end of the season but that doesn’t mean we haven’t seen the last of what he can deliver for the team.

His dribbling goal against the Blues on quarter-time was proof of that.

Jarrad McVeigh also showed why he is an important figure in the side, amassing 42 possessions as the Swans won a match which was for the most part dominated by the reigning premiers.

The second half of the match presented a very interesting trend, with not even a point scored at the southern end of ANZ Stadium. Carlton endured a scoreless third quarter, while Sydney also failed to score in the final term.

The Blues, who were only elevated into the finals after Essendon were disqualified, were far from disgraced against the defending premiers.

But the reality is that Mick Malthouse’s men are now winless in interstate finals. It’s also the fourth time in the past five years in which their finals campaign has ended with an interstate loss.

It’s also the third time in five years in which it has ended north of the Murray River, and the second in four in which it has ended at the site of Cathy Freeman’s greatest achievement.

There’s clearly a lot of work for the Blues to do if they are to go one step further in 2014, but what can we make out of year one under Mick Malthouse?

If it wasn’t for Essendon asking the AFL to investigate its supplements program in February, the Blues would not have made the finals and Malthouse’s first season would have been deemed a failure.

Let’s turn our attention back to the match and the Swans’ scoreless final quarter.

It could be suggested that the Swans ‘tanked’ that final quarter with its victory guaranteed, so that it could recharge its batteries ahead of next week’s daunting trip to face the Dockers in Perth.

The Dockers have only lost once at home all year, but the Swans have not lost in the west since ANZAC Day, 2009. The two teams however, did share a draw back in Round 8 at the SCG.

That could be about to change given the Swans’ mounting injury toll, which claimed Kurt Tippett and Tom Mitchell in the first quarter alone of the victory over Carlton.

The Dockers have also earned premiership favouritism on the back of a stunning victory at the Cattery last week.

This will be Fremantle’s second ever preliminary final, the first also coming against Sydney way back in 2006. On that occasion, the Swans were the reigning premiers and boasted more experience than the then-Chris Connolly-coached team did.

This time, it will be Fremantle’s home preliminary final and Ross Lyon’s men will be strongly favoured to move into what would be their first ever grand final.

Should they move into the decider on 28 September,  Lyon will be desperately hoping that it’s fourth time lucky after he presided over two losses and a draw while coaching St Kilda between 2007 and 2011.

What will work in his favour is that he is unbeaten against Geelong since the 2009 grand final loss, but his failure to beat Hawthorn (to whom the Saints lost to in the 2008 preliminary final) cancels out the former statistic.

Fremantle have, however, beaten Hawthorn in their only ever finals meeting – an elimination final in 2010, coming just a fortnight after the Hawks had thrashed them by 116 points in Tasmania.

On that occasion, Mark Harvey, the Dockers’s then coach, rested half of the side for the trip east, knowing that a finals berth was already in the bag.

It was a completely different Dockers side that ended the Hawks’ season in Perth on that first Saturday in September 2010.

It was for this tactic that Ross Lyon earned the ire of critics this year, as a second-string Dockers side copped a 71-point hiding from the club he formerly coached, St Kilda, in the final round of the regular season.

So now we know why Fremantle are premiership favourites. There is a big risk of getting thrashed in resting half the side, but it’s for the better of the team’s chances of doing well in the play-offs.

And so, the curtain falls on the seasons of Port Adelaide and Carlton, while the premiership bids of Sydney and Geelong continue on for at least another week.

Six of the last eight premierships have been won by either Geelong (three), Sydney (two) and Hawthorn (one), however Fremantle are attempting to ruin the tri-dominance which dates back to 2005 with a maiden flag.

Anyone could win the flag now. This competition will continue to be as unpredictable as it has ever been.

Bring on the two preliminary finals, and I hope that whichever team you support makes it through to the big dance.

The Crowd Says:

2013-09-16T03:39:07+00:00

macca

Guest


Something tells me mastermind doesn't research much - probably because it would blow his opinions out of the water.

2013-09-16T03:36:30+00:00

Dan of SA

Guest


"Of those five, Kane Cornes is also the only survivor from the team that tasted the ultimate success back in 2004, though Shaun Burgoyne is still running around at Hawthorn." You forgot Dom Cassisi. Stephen Gilham was also on the list at the time, but didn't play AFL that year. Brent Guerra was previously on the list but played for St Kilda and then Hawthorn from 2004 onward.

2013-09-16T02:14:34+00:00

Samual Johnson

Guest


Agree on your points regarding the goal review and Homebush's Olympic stadium. With today's technology the goal line cameras are an easy fix. Alternatively stop the goal umps from over acting and just concentrating on watching the ball and there would be no need for cameras. It is the simplest job in all sports what they do. A bloke sitting behind the goals in the grandstand could do the same job those clowns do. How much longer is the Homebush stadium deal for? Crowds in the past 5 seasons I have noticed have plummeted out there. You may as well just play at the SCG. I would have seriously thought of flying up from Victoria to see Carlton play at the historic, gorgeous and central SCG. But Homebush, I just would not bother. It reminds me of the old VFL Park at Mulgrave. Oversized and in the middle of nowhere. Hopefully when next year's fixture comes out, the Blues draw the Swans at the SCG.

2013-09-16T01:49:41+00:00

macca

Guest


Yeah the score going fuzzy had me worried about my TV. If the game had of been closer it would of really got to me by the end.

2013-09-16T01:35:05+00:00

Gus McManus

Guest


Macca I thought it must have been my tv. That's a relief (and a worry) to hear others where suffering the same annoyance. It was just the wide shots but it couldnt have been the wide camera itself because the score at the bottom of the screen would go fuzzy too.

2013-09-16T00:53:15+00:00

kick to kick

Guest


Not exactly sure where this writer gets his information but he doesn't seem to know a whole lot: "So now we know why Fremantle are premiership favourites". The bookies all have Hawthorn as premiership favourites with considerably shorter odds that Freemantle. Sportsbet for instance have The Hawks at $2.10 and Freemantle at $3.25. "The Blues, who were only elevated into the finals after Essendon were disqualified, were far from disgraced against the defending premiers." Despite their opponents being two players down Carlton were 9 goals behind at three quarter time. The Blues achieved about 100 fewer disposals than the Swans and yet despite the weight of posession being in Swans' hands, Sydney out-tackled Carlton 60 to 39. 39 tackles is, according to this morning's Herald Sun, the equal lowest number for a team in any game this year. Remember this was a sudden death final. In the second quarter Jarrad McVeigh was allowed 20 touches - a finals record . If this is not a disgraceful lack of defensive pressure from the Blues it is certainly not far from it. The Carlton coach thought so. Malthouse said at the start of his press conferebce "Terrible - we were taught a massive lesson in commitment". "It could be suggested that the Swans ‘tanked’ that final quarter with its victory guaranteed, so that it could recharge its batteries..." After running on severly limited interchanges from early in the 1st quarter, and a 3rd term effort to create a match winning score the Swans were fatigued and just hanging on. Those at the ground could see the level of exhaustion as players seeking a break were flagged back into the field of play by Swans interchange officials because rotations were not possible. The Swans lack of scoring was becuase they went into a defensive, tempo football mode which sought to regain some control. After Carlton's 3 quick goals in thelast quarter Swans players desparately and successfully sought to shut the game down for the next ten minutes to take away Carlton's impetus - but they were out on their feet.

2013-09-16T00:35:06+00:00

Matt

Guest


Firstly, I must say I am very proud of my Swannies, whatever my happen this weekend. To lose two guys in the first 10 minutes or so and then go on to win comfortably was a fantastic achievement. However, Carlton really are pretty ordinary - the worst team to make the last 6 of a season for quite a while. To get as far as they have, given the ongoing disruptions that have occured from injuries all season has been fantastic. Been especially proud of how the younger guys have come in and just slotted in. It all points towards a very bright future, and that there is plenty of talent coming through to replace our ageing warriors. All I expect out of this weekend is for the Swans to go to Perth, with whoever is fit, and give it a red hot go. I wouldn't be suprised if Freo belt us by 8-10 goals in the end. But I do know they won't go out with a whimper - and in true Swans style, they may just well give Fro an almight fright. I just hope we can have an injury free pre-season and hit 2014 running. A full strength Swans team will be right up there again next year.

2013-09-16T00:17:00+00:00

Doug Deep

Roar Pro


I think the ANZ Stadium deal runs until 2016 and hopefully the revamped SCG will fend off a re-signing with Homebush. We didn't really learn anything from the Swans v Carlton game. We merely confirmed Carlton is too inconsistent in its application and, no matter the odds or personnel, the Swans rarely waver in their fierce application. I only hope one day Mick can get our players to play the game with such intent week in week out. Inconsistency and poor mental strength has been a blight on our side for years now.

2013-09-16T00:10:46+00:00

mark

Guest


2016, but they will probably re-sign.

2013-09-15T23:52:09+00:00

clipper

Guest


I think most Swans fans would agree with you on the ANZ stadium. Hopefully the contract runs out soon and they play future finals at the revamped SCG - would probably sell out there.

2013-09-15T23:31:21+00:00

Macca

Guest


The Swans blues game was largely uninspiring, the blues were pretty ordinary for large patches and the Swans weren't much better. 2 things we did learn from that game though are 1) don't bother having 4 simultaneous camera's for goal reviews if none of them actually show the goal line or are able to get closer than a view from 40m away and 2) a final should never be played at ANZ stadium again - they got jsut 37k there and the spectacle suffered from players under no pressure constantly slipping over. As an aside was it only my TV where the vison kept going fuzzy from thewide shots?

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