Ewen McKenzie announces Wallabies squad for Springboks, Pumas tour

You're right - which is why you failed to respond to what was a basic statement. I can only infer that you disagree with what I said re: 7, which only serves to highlight the fact you aren't a rugby fan. I can't see what you get from this?

I didn't speculate, I suggested - and for very obvious reasons. I didn't demand either. For the most self-righteous character on this site you appear to have some really basic issues with straightforward comprehension. And this media byte 'McKenzie chat is gospel stuff' is quite evidently ridiculous.

No that is not what you are "stating" at all. You have speculated that Robinson was dropped for medical reasons, or alternatively for attitude reasons; you have demanded that others produce the Wallabies fitness stats to prove you wrong, and you have ignored the public statements by McKenzie in order to pursue your own speculations.

Yes you are.

“7 is arguably the most important position on the pitch” Amusing. Trolling.

I'm not speculating on anything. You stated that' the dropping of Robinson is hardly explicable on the basis of a “wake up call”. That is what Cheika did months before.' As if a player's attitude doesn't fluctuate. This is speculation on your part that he wasn't dropped for his attitude. You then went further, 'Rather it seems to have been part of the false conclusions drawn by our coaching staff about the effect that the new scrum laws would have.' More speculation. My point was, and I'm repeating myself here, that nobody knows the real reason why Robinson was dropped - hence my referral to fitness stats etc, and any subsequent speculation is pointless, as is taking media bytes at face value. Obviously that didn't hold you back, and from the above comments it would seem you're pretty pally with the Wallaby coaching panel, so obviously I'm wrong.

Yes, yes, I know, I am the antichrist etc. You say this periodically (and not just about me) when you get the red mist in front of your eyes. But Keo – have you seriously been on it? I've never seen you there, but I don't go that often myself. What intrigues me is that I can't see you lasting more than 5 minutes on any Saffa blog with your precious attitude. Perhaps you have more spine than I thought. ;)

Just make sure to bring Bryce Lawrence with.

Okay, so now you are speculating that he was dropped because of attitude. Perhaps you've dropped the speculation that he was dropped for medical reasons. Or both or none, whatever. McKenzie's remarks don't suggest that either was the case, so my point remains: your jibe about "access to the Wallaby fitness stats and medical notes" was a waste of time.

This Tane Mahuta character is wrong about most things, it looks like he s watching different games than the rest of us

Of course it's an irrelevance. One somebody has been dropped once they never need to be dropped again because of their attitude? Bizarre comment. I haven't made anything that can be labelled speculation. My point was that nobody knows the reasons why Robinson was dropped. This again is pretty basic stuff.

We've been through this before - basic comprehension: I said no such thing re: Beau Robinson. If you can't follow the threads or at least offer a response then stop trolling. It's ruining the site. You clog up countless threads with absolute dross and no actual rugby talk. If you want arguments then go on to the Keo website. You're clearly not a rugby fan in any shape or form.

Typical you: unable to offer an alternative in the response. Really quite odd.

"7 is arguably the most important position on the pitch" Right... :) "Clearly, that’s not comparable in any shape or form with ..." Who said it was? "The poster stated that no specialist replacements were brought by the nations named, and he was wrong." Tane doesn't need me to defend him, I'm sure, but I don't think you've shown he was wrong. It would depend on what each of you meant by "specialist No 7", and some of yours are a bit hazy on the definition. "feel free not to reply to my comments." Thanks, I appreciate the offer.

"7 is arguably the most important position on the pitch" Amusing. "It’s a very different position to number 8," Glad to see we agree on something. "which is why no other rugby nation in recent history..." I doubt that you would have any idea about that, but I really don't care enough to check up. "Quite obviously anybody with any history of playing 7 would have been the more sensible option" Sure, quite obviously. Hence we come back to your absurd idea that Beau Robinson was going to make a significant difference to the Ireland match. Whatever floats your boat. "why so many other nations brought players with that experience in their squads." Very few actually, as already discussed. You are stretching your definitions as far as you can, and its all a waste of time anyway. There simply was no obvious contender to take along as "a back-up to Pocock". There were some that might have worked, sure, but emphasis is on the word "might". "beyond the bizarre not to consider them serious alternatives." Robinson, I don't (at that time - he might do well now, with two more seasons of S15 and a session in ITM under his belt). Hodgson, yes its possible, and in fact he was brought in anyway. But I have never suggested Deans couldn't have done it another way, I have just pointed out that the case against what he did is neither particularly obvious nor overwhelming. "You’re being typically disingenuous and obstinate," You certainly are. "to say a player has been tried and was not capable after 1 Test" No, I have said that there is no evidence that he was a capable test player in 2011, which is not the same thing. Certainly no grounds for thinking that he would have made a major difference, or that Deans was obviously wrong for not taking him. "How can you expect people to take you seriously..." One of life's great mysteries I suppose.

"Cheika dropping Robinson months ago is an utter irrelevance" No, it isn't. "unless you know for a fact that Robinson was deemed fit enough ... your comment is pure speculation." No, YOUR comment is pure speculation, that's the whole point. In fact its worse than that, because McKenzie has made several public comments about why Robinson was dropped and never even hinted at medical reasons. Your comment lacks all pretence at logic.

I prefer to just comment on the title Allanthus. Or when Link reverts to Deans strategy I just put "NEK MINNIT". Thanks Tane!

Robinson's form dropped shortly after that 2011 season and since then Hooper and Gill have become Pocock's deputy's. Would love to see Hodgson at 6 for the Wallabies more but the selectors obviously want someone with more size and height.

Because your comment is, again, quite ridiculous. Cheika dropping Robinson months ago is an utter irrelevance, and unless you know for a fact that Robinson was deemed fit enough, or there were parts of his game that the coaching panel weren't unhappy about your comment is pure speculation.

I repeat, and for the umpteenth time: we've had this debate before and you either understand the basic facets of forward play or not. 7 is arguably the most important position on the pitch, and it's very specialist in terms of running lines, support play, timing and defense. It's a very different position to number 8, which is why no other rugby nation in recent history has played a guy who has never played 7, but has played 4, 6 and 8, in the 7 jersey in a Test match. McCalman would have been the 4th favourite number 7 at the Force in that period, let alone the Australian national squad. Quite obviously anybody with any history of playing 7 would have been the more sensible option, which is why so many other nations brought players with that experience in their squads. Further, Hodgson and Robinson were mooted. It ranges beyond the bizarre not to consider them serious alternatives. You're being typically disingenuous and obstinate, and it's old news. Take your Beau Robinson comment above as a perfect example: to say a player has been tried and was not capable after 1 Test in which the entire side was poor is absolutely ridiculous. How can you expect people to take you seriously with comments like that? Bizarre.