Ange for Socceroos no worry: A-League boss

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    A-League boss Damien de Bohun says the possible loss of two-time championship winning coach Ange Postecoglou to the Socceroos’ helm would only be a good thing for the league.

    And he says the coming change in Socceroos coach should prove a huge spur for all Australian players in the A-League to push their case ahead of next year’s World Cup.

    Melbourne Victory coach Postecoglou has firmed as a favourite to fill the national team job following German Holger Osieck’s sacking while Central Coast’s Graham Arnold is also considered a contender.

    De Bohun feels it speaks volumes for the rising standard of the A-League that Postecoglou, Australia’s most successful domestic coach, and Arnold, who took the Mariners to championship glory last season, are being seriously considered to lead the Socceroos.

    And he’s not concerned taking one of them away could have a negative impact on the league.

    “The standard of coaching has improved dramatically over the seasons,” de Bohun said on Monday.

    “So to have two of our coaches being mentioned very seriously in consideration to be the next national coach is a very exciting time and I think it only strengthens the league.

    “There’s a lot of people waiting in the wings for coaching roles in the A-League and it may well create an opportunity if it went that way.”

    Record numbers in crowd attendance and broadcast audiences were set in the opening round of the A-League.

    And, while the Socceroos’ back-to-back 6-0 drubbings by Brazil and France have caused dismay for fans, de Bohun says it’s the A-League’s role to re-invigorate supporters.

    “The A-League and the Socceroos really work hand in hand,” de Bohun said.

    “When you look what’s happened with the national team and you put it in context of the big picture, we’ve qualified for the World Cup in Brazil.

    “Obviously the preparations against two world-class teams have been difficult but there’s a time of change now; there’ll be a new coach in place.

    “The other great thing from an A-League perspective is that with so much change, every player is going out there who’s Australian with an expectation that they are playing for a spot on that plane to Brazil.”

    A record 100,998 fans flocked to the five matches in the opening round – the highest attendance in a single round – with the grand final replay between the Mariners and the Western Sydney Wanderers at Bluetongue Stadium sold out.

    With Adelaide’s match against Victory at Hindmarsh on Friday also sold out and the first Sydney derby between Sydney FC and the Wanderers at Allianz Stadium on October 26 on track for a capacity crowd, de Bohun feels records will continue to tumble in this ninth edition of the competition.

    “The fans are powering the game in a way that Australian football hasn’t seen before,” he said. “It has exceeded our expectations.

    “This has been a great start … and we expect it to build from here.

    “We do think sellouts will become quite common.”

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    • October 15th 2013 @ 6:22am
      Radelaide said | October 15th 2013 @ 6:22am | ! Report

      I hope he gives it a real shot, I’ve been very impressed with what he has done here.

    • October 15th 2013 @ 6:37am
      my left foot said | October 15th 2013 @ 6:37am | ! Report

      I think Arnie would be a better choice, the CCM are always organised whilst continuosly loosing players. After watching the CCM v WSW, these two teams are setting the bench mark again already.

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        October 15th 2013 @ 10:55am
        wisey_9 said | October 15th 2013 @ 10:55am | ! Report

        This is my view as well. I have no doubts that Ange is a wonderful coach, but in both Brisbane and Melbourne it took time for the players to buy into his approach. With the Socceroos only playing a handful of games between now and the World Cup, I don’t think he’ll have enough time on the training pitch to implement his plan. Arnold, on the other hand, is a specialist in working with what he’s got.

        So yeah Arnold is my preference if it comes down to one of the HAL coaches. My first choice pick would be Marcelo Bielsa.

        • October 15th 2013 @ 12:27pm
          my left foot said | October 15th 2013 @ 12:27pm | ! Report

          Great minds think alike and fools seldom differ! πŸ™‚
          Bielsa, Jupp Hynkes, Hiddink, Arnie, in that order for me, I doubt Jupp would sign aboard though.

        • October 15th 2013 @ 1:03pm
          fadida said | October 15th 2013 @ 1:03pm | ! Report

          Agree. Ange is fantastic but he’d need more time and games to implement his philipsophy (and we probably don’t have enough of either). Arnold plays a game that is more similar to the type that most of the NT pool of players are familiar with, and his game is definitely easier to instill.

          I think Hiddink may have lost his “magic” and the hunger and energy required, though I’d be happy to be proven wrong

    • Roar Guru

      October 15th 2013 @ 8:07am
      Mike said | October 15th 2013 @ 8:07am | ! Report

      This is great stuff. It’s good to see De Bohun taking it as a compliment and saying that it’s fine for him to be appointed. I’m a Victory fan, but I’d be more than happy to see Postecoglou get promoted. He has worked hard and he really knows what he’s doing.

      So many other countries would have their league and federation butting heads over the matter.

    • Roar Guru

      October 15th 2013 @ 9:48am
      NUFCMVFC said | October 15th 2013 @ 9:48am | ! Report

      Needless to say I disagree, Di Petrio in the past hasn’t exactly been all that great in coaching appointments, plus we can see that Ange at club level has been able to rejuvenate flagging careers, which suggests he is of more value to Australian football at club level

      Added to the fact that the Socceroos are going to dip no matter who is in charge (even Hiddink) given the talent drop and 2018 is set to be a true struggle, it is more important than ever to have a strong domestic league to act as a counter point, and taking Ange, Arnie or anyone else will undermine the A League while not really doing much for the Socceroos

      What’s De Bohun football background btw?

      • October 15th 2013 @ 9:56am
        Midfielder said | October 15th 2013 @ 9:56am | ! Report


        MY understanding is he has a big football background …. at a Mariners fans forum De Bohun and Lawrie McKinna where joking about games they placed against each other in the NSL…

        Goal reported this when he was appointed … “”” Prior to his previous involvement with the A-League, de Bohun was the CEO of the Football Federation of Victoria and Buckley was thrilled to have recruited someone with genuine football experience.

        “Damien has a wonderful mix of senior executive experience in the sports industry and a life-long passion for football,” Buckley said.”””

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          October 15th 2013 @ 12:35pm
          NUFCMVFC said | October 15th 2013 @ 12:35pm | ! Report

          Thanks mid

          That said, given the friction between FFV and vic clubs over implementation of NPLV I’m not sure if that is a plus or minus…

      • October 15th 2013 @ 10:11am
        Jukes said | October 15th 2013 @ 10:11am | ! Report

        I agree with you to a certain degree NUFCMVFC. In regards to an Australian appointment it certainly doesn’t have to be Ange. After all he is at the A-leagues biggest club and has only been in the job for only 1 year. As much as he would like to be appointed as the national team boss there is still important work for him to do at Melbourne Victory and for the A-league. Now I am not suggesting the FFA doesn’t appoint him but there is an argument for him staying at MV like you suggested. I am sure he will put his hat in the ring regardless.

        In terms of who should our coach be, I think in this instance our coach should be an Australian Coach and that is only because I think the best man for the job is currently Australian. This has been brought on by the current circumstances we currently find ourselves in. We have until May/June of 2014 before we fly off to Brasil. There is such a limited preparation and lead in time for a foreign coach to get up to speed quickly. It is of vital importance that the new coach understand the players he has at his disposal and the history of the recent Australian sides. If I was to have my preference it would be Graham Arnold, although I am equally sure that Ange could do the job just as equally as well. The argument could be also be that at a club like Central Coast Mariners he is needed just as much as Ange is needed at Melbourne Victory. With the Mariners the situation is slightly different in that they have the unassuming Ian Moss who would make an excellent first team boss at the Mariners. In fact I am pretty sure the transition would be seamless. He is more than ready to take over.

        As for De Bohuns background I did ask him when he held a fan forum at UWS campus last year. He was originally a cricket administrator of course but has always played football. He would be a decent park football player, but nothing to write home about πŸ˜€

        • October 15th 2013 @ 11:01am
          Franko said | October 15th 2013 @ 11:01am | ! Report

          Both Ange and Arnie have had a crack at coaching international sides, both were poor.

          Brilliant at club level where they are working with guys (often youngsters) day in day out developing them, but 8 months and a handful of games out, we don’t have that luxury.

          As much as it pains me to say, at this stage, we need a motivator with some tactical nous, a wily old fox who can snatch a result, the Tim Cahill of coaching if you will.

          For this particular assignment we need a Harry Redknapp style manager to get us through the WC. Who knows, the lure of a WC may be enough to get him in on a short assignment?

          Straight after the tourney, appoint our man to take us through the next 4-6 years.

          • Roar Guru

            October 15th 2013 @ 11:06am
            wisey_9 said | October 15th 2013 @ 11:06am | ! Report

            I agree with you here.

            I’d suggest Bielsa has the wiliness to negotiate a difficult World Cup AND the vision to implement a proper 4 year plan afterwards…

            • October 15th 2013 @ 11:31am
              Franko said | October 15th 2013 @ 11:31am | ! Report

              No doubt Bielsa is the leading candidate. I think a lot of people forget that not only has he coached Chile and Argentina at major tournaments but coaching Bilbao is almost like coaching a national side. You have a playing pool to chose from and have to do well with them, which he did.

              My only issue is that I can’t see this guy coaching Australia. Every appointment he has had has been in the Spanish-speaking world. Why he would suddenly go to the Socceroos, I’d have no idea.

              • October 15th 2013 @ 12:31pm
                my left foot said | October 15th 2013 @ 12:31pm | ! Report

                When the job was up for grabs, he put his hand up. FFA chose Osieck.

              • October 15th 2013 @ 12:40pm
                Franko said | October 15th 2013 @ 12:40pm | ! Report


                Wow, I had no idea. Perhaps didn’t have the Asian experience they wanted at that time.

                Prime candidate for the WC though. Knows South America, had good experience in tournament football, hope we can get him.

              • October 15th 2013 @ 1:36pm
                my left foot said | October 15th 2013 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

                Yeah, might have been the asian experience, his english isn’t the best as well, could have asked double what Osieck did (hindsight is nice, we will probably be paying that anyway now) and the conspiracy theory (Osieck was given the job to get the german vote to host the wc, it was open when we were bidding??).

          • October 15th 2013 @ 1:05pm
            fadida said | October 15th 2013 @ 1:05pm | ! Report

            Harry Redknapp? Surely you jest?

            His only way of working is to sign many players (hard internationally). He admits he doesn’t do tactics either

            • October 15th 2013 @ 1:59pm
              Franko said | October 15th 2013 @ 1:59pm | ! Report

              I don’t think Redknapp is a brilliant manager by any stretch, and yes given the first opportunity he likes to sign many many players.

              But history has shown that he can join sides and have an immediate impact:

              When he took over Spurs in October 08 he guided a team in the relegation zone to wins over league leaders Liverpool away to Man City, the 4-4 with Arsenal and went on a 6 match unbeaten run.

              When he took over QPR in November 2012 they immediately went on a 4 match unbeaten run and later was able to snag victory against Chelsea and draws with Spurs and Man City.

              Immediate impact? Yes

              Plucky? Yes

              For the long term? No

              • October 15th 2013 @ 5:39pm
                fadida said | October 15th 2013 @ 5:39pm | ! Report

                For “immediate impact” see “spends tens of millions of pounds and club still gets relegated” πŸ™‚

    • October 15th 2013 @ 10:47am
      The Bear said | October 15th 2013 @ 10:47am | ! Report

      Open up the squad selections to an on line poll and go from there, a’la All Starts style.

      • Roar Guru

        October 15th 2013 @ 11:09am
        Mike said | October 15th 2013 @ 11:09am | ! Report

        As fun as that would be, the results might not work the way FFA would want them to. There are the hardcore football fans who know the ins and outs of the game, like many people on these forums. But then there are people who would just vote for their favourite, or someone they like, but who might not necessarily be right for the job.

        It’s like any modern talent show on tv where people vote for the winner via sms. How many of them choose the coolest or best looking person instead of the most talented? πŸ™‚

    • October 15th 2013 @ 11:13am
      mahonjt said | October 15th 2013 @ 11:13am | ! Report

      Arnie is my choice. It’s time for an Australian because we have some great coaches now. However, given the task of developing for the Asia Cup AS WELL AS putting on a decent performance at the World Cup – I think Arnie is best placed to ensure we do the latter. Ange’s strengths are in club football IMO, and even as a NT manager, his strengths are long term squad and pathway development in orientation.

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