How All Whites can learn from Socceroos' mistakes

By Football_Wunderkind / Roar Pro

Bloody massacres are not uncommon in the drug war zones of Mexico. The 5-1 rout of New Zealand last night will not be out of place on the front pages of Mexican newspapers infamous for having gory pictures.

Watching the All Whites get dismantled by Mexico last night in a World Cup intercontinental qualifier gave me painful memories of past Socceroos failures.

The tactics Ricky Herbert chose to use and the personnel sent out to perform those tasks were just wrong for a number of reasons.

I am not a huge follower of New Zealand football and the last time I watched them play was against Paraguay in the 2010 World Cup.

The reasons I rose early to watch them play are two fold. The big A-League link and I genuinely believed this was going to be tight two legged play-off that would go down to the final whistle in Wellington.

The chance it will go down to the wire is slim to none and the reason for this is down to one man. Ricky Herbert.

The tactics employed by him were conservative at best and ultimately proved super naive.

According to Albert Einstein, the definition of insanity is “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.

The failure to change his tactics and formation from the World Cup was a big part of NZ’s undoing.

For one, the Mexican coach would have done his homework but the main factor in the tactics failing was the location of the game.

They worked in neutral South Africa but at the intimidating high pressure but low atmosphere of the Azteca they were doomed to failure.

At 2200 metres, you simply cannot allow so much possession to the Mexico.

Chasing shadows in such rarified air will leave you breathless.

Combine that with using old and underdone players and you have a recipe for a 5-1 reverse.

Australia’s use of overaged players in recent games has hi-lighted how it can undo you.

Ricky had his warning through the Socceroos recent form, he didn’t heed it.

A 37-year-old at CB in Vicelich proved highly exposed as too slow against the swarming Mexicans.

Perhaps the biggest lesson that past Socceroos failures can express is selecting underdone players.

The most painful example of this was when Australia blew two goals to Iran in 97.

On that night there were many players who were short of full match fitness and many analysts have concluded it was a major factor in our undoing.

Selecting club-less players, Tony Lochhead and Jeremy Christie, was a mistake that Ricky paid for.

Leo Bertos was an ok choice for RB as he is fairly quick but again Lochhead was not only underdone but is a fairly slow mover.

Ricky should have trusted the speed and young enthusiasm of Bill Tuiloma at LB to defend against the Mexican speedsters.

When Australia played Iran, Terry Venables picked a young Harry Kewell and it paid off handsomely.

Ricky could have heeded a lesson from this, even he was 21 when the All Whites qualified for their first World Cup.

The idea to absorb pressure was a good one, executing the counter attack failed for three reasons. Playing Chris Wood, not playing Marcos Rojas and an out of sorts Jeremy Christie.

I know I mentioned that underdone players should not be played but for the sake of a successful counter attack you need a technically gifted speedster.

Besides, you can forgive at least one underdone player if he is an attacker.

Marcos showed his technique and speed at Melbourne Victory, he is perfect for a counter attack role. He was the Harry Kewell “gamble” that Ricky should have risked.

Chris James passing was more measured than Mr Christie’s and he could have sent through Rojas nicely. We will never know if it would have worked because by the time those two players were on the pitch, the damage had been done.

Plus the constitution of the game when Rojas came on, saw New Zealand pressing to score and Mexico exposing the space behind.

Another tactic I noticed was a shoot on sight policy.

Not such a bad tactic considering the occasion and rareness of New Zealand attacks.

Again Rojas is an excellent shooter but if Ricky doesn’t use him surely using Shane Smeltz rather than Wood is the better option considering his plethora of stunning A-League goals.

Smeltz was underdone I know but use him for the first half when a goal can make or break a tie.

I must say “Bravo!” to the Mexican gamble to play seven of the Club America team.

Desperate times call for desperate measures and you could do worse than send out a team in full synchronisation.

Heck, Spain is Barcelona incognito.

I really did think the All Whites were a good chance of coming away with a decent scoreline from the Azteca.

Maybe I was foolish but Mexico were in crisis and New Zealand showed they were capable at South Africa 2010 of keeping it tight.

Then again it is the Azteca, a stadium that even Brazil rarely walks away from with points or even dignity.

The other game of the evening was more predictable.

A ruthless Uruguay was always going to be beat Jordan and I even expected Jordan to ship a lot of goals. New Zealand had a more sporting chance but a couple of clumsy goals combined with an inept coaching display and we got an unexpected similar result.

NZ were lucky to face a Bahrain punching above their weight in 2009 and I was jealous of them qualifying so quickly via the intercontinental crap shoot.

2014 qualifying is showing them how lucky they were.

The 2018 World Cup path sees Oceania go through South America and we may well see Uruguay play NZ.

Hopefully New Zealand can heed the lessons from our matches against Uruguay because they certainly didn’t heed the lessons from our past failures.

A-League fans, pray for “The Miracle in Wellington” because our reputation could do with a boost after the “Azteca Massacre”.

The Crowd Says:

2013-11-15T09:53:17+00:00

gumpy

Guest


Agree that the Oceania winner should progress to the final group-stage of Asian WC qualifying; it really is the most logical/viable outcome IMO. As for the Kiwis, they have to roll out a National Curriculum like we have and stick to it - given their smaller player-pool it should be much easier for them to implement, and also they have to get serious about switching their national league(the ASB Premiership) to full-time professional status(it's semi-pro at present). If they can make these things happen, they'll lay the groundwork for a decently-bright future for NZ football.

2013-11-15T06:02:16+00:00

Johnno

Guest


NZ into Asia. Simple. And keep Oceania as it is, and don't merge it into Asia. Fiji,Solomon islands,New Caledonia,Tahiti will never compete so leave em to rot with a half place. But NZ should go into Asia, it will help NZ soccer. Asia doesn't need nz, but NZ football sure needs Asia. Playing Fiji,Solomon Islands won't help there football.

2013-11-15T05:37:00+00:00

Matthew Skellett

Guest


Simply because FW NZ would be able to get more teams in the A-League , reap the development benefits that Australia gets from being in the AFC and also be able to be more competitive in the Asian sphere -you certainly don't improve by continually only testing yourself agains inferior teams -and by 'clamour' I mean from inside NZ

2013-11-15T03:57:55+00:00

fadida

Guest


at night and with no lights..........

2013-11-15T02:58:58+00:00

Greg

Guest


NZL should aim to make the WC Finals about 4 times per century, say once every 6 tournaments. Anything more is unrealistic. They made it in 1982 and then in 2010 so look out in 2034. That we have made 3 straight WC Finals series indicates to me our passage is currently too easy. 1 less automatic place for Asia would fix that.

2013-11-15T02:53:18+00:00

Midfield general

Guest


Might sound crazy but if NZ get a couple of early goals it might rock Mexico's fragile confidence after a poor qualifying campaign. The away goal could be significant....but it's unlikely. With names like McGlinchy, Rojas, Barbarousos and Smeltz I thought they might do a bit better.

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T02:35:29+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


Do you mean bring Oceania into East Asia? Geographically it makes no sense for NZ to join the Middle East region.

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T02:33:02+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


I have never understood why these old school mentalities exist. NZ should play Mexico in the freezing cold is what you are saying right? It's not like the entire NZ team is playing its football in NZ clubs and they are used to the cold weather and it will be this huge advantage. The current NZ team has players from all over the world. Shane Smeltz plays in Perth. It is is currently 30 degrees here. He might not appreciate the cold. The cold weather will affect NZ (or not affect them) just as much as Mexico. If Mexico had played their European players instead of "Club America" then they would have European players like Javier Hernandez coming from chilly Manchester. Altitude is a different story though. I understand home teams trying to take advantage of altitude. I remember China trying it against Australia in 2008.

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T02:25:12+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


Yeah Spot on

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T02:17:34+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


Since France 98 which was the first 32 team WC there have been 64 "Round of 16" spots up for grabs Here is the break down of confederations making the Round of 16 Africa - 4/64 = 6% South America = 14/64 = 22% Europe - 35/64 = 54% Asia - 5/64 = 8% Central America - 6/64 = 10% Based on those results you can see by basing it on performance then Africa is well over represented. They really have performed poorly. But it doesn't even tell the full story of how badly Africa has performed. Of the World Cups since 98 Africa has had 21 teams qualify and Asia has had 16 teams qualify. In that Africa has entered 21 teams into the World Cup finals and has only had 4 of those teams make the Round of 16. Asia has entered 16 teams and made the Round of 16 a more impressive 5 times. Even better than Asia, Central America has only entered 13 teams into the finals and gotten out of their group 6 times. So basing it on performance The breakdown for a 32 team World Cup should be Europe = 17.5 (54%) South America = 6.5 (20%) Asia = 2.5 (8%) Africa = 1.5 (5%) Central America = 3 (10% Oceania - 0.5 (1%) Africa produces great players but poor teams. What gives? An article for another day I think.

2013-11-15T02:01:02+00:00

Seb Vettel

Guest


What I think they should do is have a qualification for Oceana teams to make it into the AFC. Rather than just having a playoff. So NZ would have made it. And would have done the normal rounds with the rest of Asia. Or perhaps two teams from Oceana in the Asian Qualifications. Let's face it, Oceana is as much a joke competition is the RL World Cup.

2013-11-15T01:58:30+00:00

Seb Vettel

Guest


Uruguay are one of the favourites. A would put my money on a South American team to win the tournament over other teams anyday. Brazil, Argentina, Columbia and Uruguay will all be fighting to win it.

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T01:38:52+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


why would this increase the clamour for NZ to join AFC?

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T01:37:21+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


Yeah. I thought the same thing. We lost in Jordan and so did Japan. Uruguay just rock up and roll them 5-0 with some pretty easy goals. Concerning indeed,

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T01:35:33+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


Fold Oceania or bring the best Oceania team into the 3rd round of Asian qualifying. It really is a no-brainer for FIFA. It would give NZ a host of home games like Australia gets in it's Asian qualifying campaigns. NZ dollar is a stronger currency which means more dollars for FIFA. I have a feeling that the middle eastern nations lobby against it because they know NZ is a threat to them qualifying. Japan, Korea and China don't fear NZ and know that it adds another highly lucrative match up.

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T01:28:26+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


Ouch. Burn!

AUTHOR

2013-11-15T01:27:20+00:00

Football_Wunderkind

Roar Pro


The World Cup should always be about having the best teams play. All this noise about having more Asian teams or more African teams is just a load of hot air at the moment. I mean the "5th best Asian team" just got demolished at home by the "6th best South American team". I use those tags loosely because Jordan are more of a lesser Asian team on a charmed run and Uruguay are the current South American champions. Having said that they both deserved to play each other. With that being a positive statement for Jordan and a negative statement for Uruguay. Jordan have been great and THE story of World Cup qualifying. As good as Jordan has been, Uruguay have been as equally bad. Which hi-lights how far behind Asia really is. If things were designed for the best to always make the World Cup then FIFA would always have OFC v CONCACAF (Americas) and AFC v CONMEBOL (South America). This way you would almost certainly see South America and Central America qualify for those extra spots. As it stands, the ties are rotated. Last time its was OFC (NZ) v Asia (Bahrain) which ultimately allowed mediocrity into the 2010 WC. I think TheRoar readers are smart enough to realise the posturing for more spots by AFC and Africa is not currently fair based on recent results. 2 AFC teams got out of their group in 2010 WC and only 1 African team (Ghana). As the old saying goes "Put up or shut up"

2013-11-15T01:20:05+00:00

Matthew Skellett

Roar Rookie


One of the good things about this is that the clamour for NZ to join the AFC will be deafenng

2013-11-15T00:10:35+00:00

pete4

Guest


Platini moving to have the WC expanded from 32 to 40 Nations With 208 associations within FIFA it may happen in next couple of WC's

2013-11-14T23:53:39+00:00

AZ_RBB

Guest


Mid, curious to know how you see the 32 team breakdown. Ideally i would like to see this, not taking into consideration the financial benefit of each confed but rather performance. UEFA - 14 full CONMEBOL - 5 full 1 playoff CAF - 5 full CONCACAF - 2 full 1 playoff AFC - 3 full 1 playoff (split into 3 groups. winner of each group progress. best 2nd place in playoff) OFC - 1 playoff plus host

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