Mickey Arthur says 'old' Australia face many problems ahead

By Justin Chadwick / Wire

Former coach Mickey Arthur says Australia still face a series of burning questions about the make-up of their side despite completing a comprehensive Ashes triumph over England.

Australia reclaimed the Ashes on Tuesday after securing a 150-run win in the third Test at the WACA Ground, giving the home side an unassailable 3-0 lead in the series.

England were comprehensively outplayed in Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth, and Australia will rise from fifth to third in the Test rankings if they can secure a 5-0 series sweep.

But Arthur, who was sensationally sacked as Australia’s coach on the eve of the previous Ashes series in England, said the team’s ageing stars remained a concern.

“My worry for the Australians going forward is the holes that we tried to fill during my time, like the keeping role, are still going to be there,” Arthur told the BBC.

“It’s an old team now.

“(Chris) Rogers is 36, so who is that next opening batsman?

“Is George Bailey good enough? Where does (Shane) Watson bat?

“Who is the next keeper? Brad Haddin is 36 now, so is it Matthew Wade?

“Ryan Harris has probably only got one season maximum left in him.

“Peter Siddle is now getting to the wrong side of 30. Mitchell Johnson is 32.

“So Australia are going to face all those same things I went through in my time and tried to fast-track.

“They are going to face them in the next year or so.”

Arthur admits the “death knell” for his time as coach of Australia came during their 4-0 series loss to India, where the suspension of four players for failing to complete a self-assessment exercise dominated headlines.

And despite his axing from the top job, Arthur said he’d taken a lot of joy from watching Australia dominate this series.

He said the team’s success in Australia could be traced back to the planning that went into the 3-0 series loss in England earlier this year.

“Michael and I always thought our destiny as a captain-coach was always going to be defined by the Ashes in Australia,” Arthur said.

“In all our planning, what we wanted to do was push England close in England, and perhaps win one or two psychological battles.

“It might have been Harris getting the wood over Trott, or something like that.

“Just so England would carry those scars back into Australia.

“And then we wanted to hit England hard in Australia.”

The Crowd Says:

2013-12-20T00:12:35+00:00

Sage

Guest


Sue I understand you are a newby here. For that you are given some grace but don't try and create your own reality with the comments. This is a broad church with many opinions and a lot of them you & I won't agree with. A differing of opinion is to be expected but you stated this about all of Australia - "but the moment the team loses, the foreigner has to leave the country." That is blatantly untrue and then you follow on with class conscious "breeding" talk. That is what I had a problem with. The first comment you quote above is to do with what has happened after his removal as coach and what he has said, like this article. It isn't who he is or that he was unsuccessfull, it's what he has said since. The second and third quotes are from the same person although you've left out the decent bloke bit. I take it as a genuine reflection as to visa status and if it was linked to his employment. I thought the point being made was that it perhaps seems easy for Mickey to stay, when many get so distraught over boat arrivals. It's a fair point and reflects on an unwarranted common fear of boat arrivals. A double standard being illuminated which I thought was healthy. Anyway, I've said more than enough. Happy Christmas to you Sue.

2013-12-19T22:48:41+00:00

Sue

Guest


"Now when is Mickey Arthur’s visa due to expire so we can arrange pick and and delivery to the airport with a stamp in his passport, “never to return.” "Why is he still living in this country now that his contract with CA has finished?" " How easy it must be to obtain a visa in this country, yet we moan when a handful arrive by boat." what is funny, is that you don't tolerate someone with a different opinion than yours. If you believe the above comments are decent, then it justifies exactly what I said. And yes, Sandy, I see many people. None of them as silly as you, who thing decency is a reason to see a psychiatrist. once again just a confirmation of my original opinion.

2013-12-19T21:10:42+00:00

Sage

Guest


What's funny Sue is your need to come on here and say what you did first up. Australia is collective, "some Australians", isnt. There is nothing in the article or the comments at the time of your post that warranted your response. How bizarre of you to claim lineage high ground when you know nothing of my history. Does mentioning "first Australians" make you the only one with that heritage on this site? No Sue it doesn't. Just another high handed riposte from someone quite prepared to blather on about their superior breeding. If you want to come on here and make gross generalisations and talk about your superiority, expect to be challenged

2013-12-19T12:53:58+00:00

bee bee

Guest


Dear Aunty Sue. I feel it necessary to offer a most polite defence of my kindred Australian citizens. You see my dear Aunty Sue my fellow Australians are a warm and welcoming people. We just love beating England at cricket so much it makes us a little frisky and over-exuberant. What true Australian wouldn't love watching a young wild colonial lad pelt a hard red ball at frightened Englishmen. May God save the Queen because nothing can save the English cricket team from Mitchell Johnson. Sincerely Bee Bee. ps Hope my manners were adequate in this correspondence. I do try to be polite but sometimes I just cannot tame my wild colonial upbringing. Not to mention the awful steamy breeding that went into my wretched creation in this hot steamy colony. I'll have to get back to working on my curtsy just in case I bump into Queen Lizzy down at the shops. I hear she tours the outer rim of her empire every now and then.

2013-12-19T10:33:12+00:00

Sue

Guest


Australia is the country, Australians are the inhabitants. And I am Australian. And I can guarantee you my forefathers were here a long time before yours. And my parents taught me manners. Including how to behave towards a guest in my country. My response is neither hysterical nor odd. It's just my opinion. Simply because it differs from yours, it's regarded as hysterical and odd. And I am widely travelled, having worked in many countries for the Forces. And you would go far to find people as ungracious as some Australians. And that's my opinion. You are welcome to a different one. Funny that you respond so emotionally to something you disagree with.

2013-12-19T06:47:28+00:00

Ian

Guest


Phew, some really vitriolic comments towards Micky. The next two years will be interesting, though I have full confidence in Boof!

2013-12-19T05:43:35+00:00

Straight Balla

Guest


Arthur's comments show a real lack of character. He is caught between trying to throw mud over the success (they are too old) and trying to claim credit for it (I laid down the path to success when Aus were getting thrashed!) Truly pitiful. Demonstrates again that he has no idea.

2013-12-19T04:10:40+00:00

Sandy

Guest


Very odd comments Sue, very odd indeed.

2013-12-19T03:31:17+00:00

Sage

Guest


Oh for heavens sake Sue, take a deep breath and get down off your high horse. So a little segue from "Australia" to "some Australians" I see. That's a little less hysterical I'll grant you. You also seem quite on the front foot for someone who is totally unaffected. Is this a moral crusade or some such thing to right a perceived nation specific wrong in your unaffected head? You seem very fixed on this breeding aspect too. How horribly English of you and if by chance you aren't English, well then you have larger issues than it appears at first read. If you honestly believe the tosh you've written from that self-declared well bred and raised head of yours, you really need to travel more and immerse yourself in some other cultures. I've heard it said that occasionally in other countries, you can actually find people whose opinions on foreigners and refugees aren't what the UNHCR would prefer. Who would have thought it?

2013-12-19T03:03:46+00:00

Sue

Guest


Yes, lack of breeding and poor upbringing. And no, I'm not annoyed - it doesn't affect me. It just shows the rest of the world what some Australians are like. Imagine the outcry if an overseas country treated Australians with the same lack of respect. But if you lack insight into the lack of breeding which is clear in the disrespectful words, nothing I say will change that.

2013-12-19T00:26:41+00:00

sittingbison

Guest


yup, lets replace the aging players with fresh blood. Hmmm...who are the best young prospective Test players, and where do we play them? Cowan (spring chicken) Quiney (very polished 9 that) Big Show (open the batting and bowling) Wade (excellent keeper, plays spin well) Henriques (the next Kapi Dev) Hughes (lets shield him from saffer pace but plays spin well, natural selection for India) Kahwaja (great 12th man) Cummins (strong as an Ox for an 18yo) Marsh (send out an SOS he is the future of Aus cricket)

2013-12-18T23:35:40+00:00

NickW

Guest


Mickey, with the greatest of respect, you are best to not say a thing. Thanks for nearly killing our Test side. Go away.

2013-12-18T22:32:06+00:00

Wasim Ranamadroota

Roar Pro


Wow. Nearly every sentence he says is self serving. So gracious the way he gives credit to Boof - sorry, Boof who? Half the problems he mentions are problems BECAUSE he didn't address them properly.

2013-12-18T22:09:40+00:00

Muttonman

Guest


Fawad Ahmed is an Australian citizen, so no, he won't have any visa cancelled. Pocock is also an Australian citizen and we have special category visas for New Zealand citizens, as well as a bilateral social security arrangement with NZ allowing them access to all sorts of pensions and care in Australia. Not sure why you got so annoyed, as Arthur's visa would most definitely be tied to his employment. However, it is likely that he needs to be employed in his relevant field, so his current position of Head Coach at an Anglican school in Perth would be sufficient to remain in the country.

2013-12-18T21:49:40+00:00

Sage

Guest


Nothing like a highgrounder with an ulterior hurt to soothe. Lack of breeding and upbringing? Glasshouses Sue

2013-12-18T19:52:42+00:00

Praveen

Guest


Time for Arthur to please stay quiet and leave aus cricket, you failed as coach and boof has cleaned up your mess and got us back the urn, why does he keep appearing in the media as why can't he just accept that the aus team is better without him , no more favorites being picked and politics being played in the dressing room

2013-12-18T18:48:31+00:00

Greg Camilleri

Guest


Ahh Mickey... sounds like he's still using the rotation system.

2013-12-18T17:42:05+00:00

Prosenjit majumdar

Guest


One can clearly see what he would have done..changes would've continued to be made every match with none of harris,haddin,rogers and mitchell getting a regular place.

2013-12-18T17:30:51+00:00

Prosenjit majumdar

Guest


By mentioning the ages of harris and johnson what is he trying to imply?it's either that he would've dropped them and rotated younger bowlers for future..or that he somehow could've increased their career by years.

2013-12-18T14:07:36+00:00

Sandy

Guest


On the money? Lots of questions but no answers it sounds like to me. Read Paul Giles' comments above Train, in comparison, Mickey was and is still clueless. Hence homeworkgate, "I need you to do my job for me". Arthur can sit back and watch how Boof will fill those holes he is "talking" about.

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