Berisha targeted: Roar coach

Lucy Zelic, You are biased. Have you really played football at all? Why you totally ignore the saying of the four previous socceroos, like Slater, Foster, Culina & Bosnich. Bosnich was a world class goalkeeper. Do you know that? Berisha did not slide in. Do you really know what sliding in means? He reached to the fullest extent of his leg. While you are saying “poor timing”, you said “stud up”. How up was it? Is the rule saying the boot face at 45 degrees to the ground is dangerous? You said, “an incident the young keeper was fortunate enough to walk away from relatively unscathed.” Soccer is always dangerous. And this incident is an accident. I have seen a player broke his leg after he accidentally clashed on to the goal post. Soccer is dangerous to a certain degree. This is not car accident, in which usually only party is to be at fault usually. Even my friend told me the kids in the childcare have accidents occasionally. Wake up, don’t try to use your own way to make the accident becomes a fault. I must stress again that the way a striker contacting the goalkeeper is very common. And the most sad and unlucky incident happened in the 1982 World Cup finals, a match between France and Germany (Schumacher collision with Battiston 82). In this case, Battiston had his jaw fractured and a number of teeth off. This goalkeeper was condemned for this action by many people in the circle. Remember that in this incident, no card was given. I just don’t know why you can interpret the soccer rule. Have you really got any soccer training, practically or academically? You don’t even know “tackle”. The goal keeper, Velaphi, was tackling with the hands because he did not have possession. On the other hand, Berisha was being tackled because he had the possession. Watch the replay. Berisha reached the ball first. Even that was a 50/50 as most people agree. He still had the possession. Should the Heart’s defender did not give a slight pull on Berisha, he could not have his foot on the ball, but below the ball to chip it up. You said, “… reply a dozen times…” But there is no need to replay a dozen times to see that you was tackling and who was trying to strike the ball to the net. You are biased to bring other people to say him being acting. You are a journalist. Haven’t you got any journalist academic training, diploma or degree? Regarding that 3 cards, the first one was reasonable. That is why many do not comment. For the second one, it was still marginally reasonable in condition that both Ryall and Berisha were treated the same. However, the replay showed that it should be “Ryall red carded and Berisha red carded”, “Ryall red carded and Berisha yellow carded”, not “Ryall yellow carded and Berisha red carded”. That was a judgemental error. As for this latest one, that was wrong in giving a red card, respecting that a referee can make mistakes sometimes. However, you are not a referee needing to give quick decision without video replay. I just query you proficiency in this soccer area. In the end, no matter who or which club, the truth is paramount.

I disagree. it all depends on how you execute a slide tackle (which besart wasn't he was trying to flick the ball past the keeper). if you execute a slide tackle properly, your studs might be exposed, but they will be facing away from the player, as the laces of the boot connect with the front of the ball. The problem is the slide tackle doesn't seem to be coached anymore (well not that i have seen) resulting in kids thinking you can slide in at a player from any angle, which often isn't a slide tackle but dangerous play or a foul or both.

thats why in my opinion slide tackles should be outlawed, as you said the studs will come up everytime, which if you connect can be dangerous. if you have to slide and stretch out that much your not close enough to safely challenge for the ball. And this is from someone with both playing and refereeing experience.

As ive said before most players dont know the rules at an indepth level enough to comment, especially Bozza. I use to be a goalkeeper and now a referee, that was red, it doesnt matter if he meant it, he followed through which is dangerous. "Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play"

QSAF - that doens't make this incident an automatic red as you desire because of what has happened earlier in the season. the glory game bes's two yellows were justified. the straight red against SFC has been disputed by many and at least seb ryall should have had the same penalty - a red, or beriisha just had a yellow. this incident bes could have had a yellow given at most. but to imply he somehow intentionally and knowingly wanted to take out a players face is as reckless as what you are suggesting. and as you know, another player in berisha's position would not have got a red card for performing the same action - i.e. kicking the ball with his boot.

The fact is Reddy has not received a red card yet this season. Berisha has received 3. Yes you are entitled to go for the ball, but not in a reckless manner, which Berisha is a serial offender and has been red carded 3 times by three different referees... ?

Berisha has every right to lunge for a ball that he could very well have scored from. That is a contestable possession and he should not have to pull out because the goalie dives for it - that's just part of the game and why goalies have to be brave to go diving on contested balls. "Velaphi's life was in danger" is a bit excessive isn't it....?

So the keeper has no responsibility to safe guard himself? And it doesnt matter if its accidental and there was no intent? .... liam reddy should have seen red for clattering into Brioch a few weeks back so... nearly knocked him unconcious trying to get to the ball - didnt hear much of an outcry. And any keeper that clatters into a player on the way to punching a ball should also see red as that could be deemed reckless .... or is it just Berisha thats reckless? I have no issue with decisions been given for whatever reason as long as its applied to all players. In all my years of playing and watching football incidents like that were summed up by the phrase - he was fully entitled to go for that.

I honestly can't see how anyone can call that dangerous play when he's clearly trying to score a goal. He has no idea whether the GK is going to try and block him with his legs or dive at he's feet. He's eyes are for the ball. I challenge anyone here, who has played and isn't talking out of their arse, to get a ball, roll it away from them and then run in a direct line, following the path of the ball, slide and try and kick the ball forward. I guarantee you it is impossible not to have your studs showing when you stretch out. I bloody know, I've played for 40 years. It can't be done. (Lie down and try and point your toes at the ground with your heel on the ground.) That being the case either the referee has to recognise that a player can't make that tackle in that way without his studs showing and decide either it's reckless or there's no other way to complete the tackle. I hate blokes going off at players for going in "studs UPPP!" as you hear them squeal in a game when there is a massive difference between an intentional, malicious, reckless, studs up challenge and a simple stretching for the ball in desperation. If that's a red, fine, but consistency needs to be shown. Blokes are going in like that every day of the week. Unfortunately for Berisha 99% of them don't include a kick to the chest.

There is a big report talking about the Berisha's red card in the Sunday Mail (Courier Mail) today. In this report, the journalist talks about the possibilities of losing Berisha for a longer suspension should Mulvey raise an objection to the Match Review Panel, concerning the long suspension's effect on the final matches. The thinking here is that an objection may result in 1, 2, or 3 weeks suspension. Should the club submit an appeal? Yes, it is because that it is a righteous thing to do. Despite there may be a risk, the submission also asks the A-league professionals to interpret the football rules in this part of the soccer world. With the showing of an attitude by the club, the MRP will likely respond with a one week suspension. This is to respect both the club and the referee, knowing that referees have to make a quick response from time to time without a chance to have a look on the video replay. Somehow, a 2-matches-ban means the A-league professionals are interpreting the rules quite differently from the rest of the world and soccer traditions, or some other factors are also taken into consideration. A three matches suspension is highly unlikely. Should this happen, all the people (referees, fans, players and coaches etc) will have a chance to know what the heads of the A-league are heading to and adjust accordingly. Will a 2 or 3 weeks ban diminish quite heavily the Roars' chance of playing the Grand Finale and winning it? The experience in this season is that the Roars kept winning no matter Berisha was in or not, with 3 matches to spare before getting the major Premiership. Major premiership? This is a response to one of the NSW columnists writing of minor Premiership days ago. The orange shirts care more about the minor Championship or the righteousness? Maybe, a 2 to 3 weeks ban anger and motivate the Roar players more to get the minor Championship. Remember that in the 2010 to 2011 season, many Roar bloggers voiced that they did not care the "toilet seat" when they had got the major Premiership. Righteousness is bigger than that minor "toilet seat". Go for the appeal.

Good comments Roarfan and as QSAF would say, Kudos to you for calling it as it is. A wrong decision.

Go to the Fox Sports website. Even Velaphi defends Besart and he was very close to the action, wasn't he? Even Mark Bosnich a former goalkeeper with experience at the highest level was adamant that it was not a red. Apparently armchair critics think they know better.

Interesting to read some of the 'experts' comments. All the commentators agreed that it definitely was not a red card and if you have a good look at the replay you can see why. Tall poppy syndrome perhaps? If you ask any coach in the HAL if they would sign Besart if they could, I am sure they all would say yes. Tando was brave and took a risk, but what does a player do when it is a one on one with a goalie? Pull out and say after you sir? There was absolutely no intent on Besart's part to injure Tando. He was trying to score a goal like everyone expects him to. Give the man a go please.

What difference will it make if the referees go fulltime? How will that improve the standard? It is different for players because they need to practice skills, structures, game plans, playing as a team etc. What are the referees going to do during the week and the weekends they are not refereeing. It is not as if they are all in the same City and can try to improve by studying the laws of the game in classroom environment or in practice among other things. Surely a couple of workshops prior to and during the season should suffice. Also, they officiate at local games as well and some of them very poorly, so they are getting plenty of practical experience. The worst failing from most referees is inconsistency and that won't be cured by going fulltime. Only education and constant monitoring may. And what do they do when the A-League season is finished? Try to get a job again because I doubt very much that the game can afford the outlay of say 10 referees for 12 months of the year. How much would you pay them? $ 50,000 p.a, $ 60,000, $ 70,000. It doesn't make sense to me/

He and Miller......who is playing hard to want every game he plays with the roar.

Then why not bend your knee to get your foot totally behind the ball in Berisha's case to score a goal. Why keep your foot so locked in a stretched out manner that it rolls over the ball and passes the keepers hands and lands squarely on the head of the keeper? Kudos to Fidida as a Football supporter for calling it as it is---a reckless tackle with total disregard to player safety.

"So if an outfield player dives for a header a foot off the ground and gets kicked in the face is by an opposition player who is going for the ball at the same time is that a red?" Stupid comment---who has ever done that? @ Pablo---then why not bend your knee to get your foot totally behind the ball in Berisha's case to score a goal. Why keep your foot so locked in a stretched out manner that it rolls over the ball and passes the keepers hands and lands squarely on the head of the keeper? Kudos to Hamish as a Roar supporter for calling it as it is---a reckless tackle with total disregard to player safety.

oh fadida - 'berisha slid in at high speed on wet ground equals excessive force' - so now players must not actually go for the ball if its wet. his boot hit the ball. keeper intentionally went head first.

"The fact that 50/50 people think this is red from the social media that makes me think the referee did not make a mistake" .... makes me think common sense aint that common. So your saying he wasn't entitled to go for the ball? And your also saying that the keeper has no obligation to protect himself and its not his fault if he dives head first into a situation where a striker is reaching for a ball which he conected with first? So if an outfield player dives for a header a foot off the ground and gets kicked in the face is by an opposition player who is going for the ball at the same time is that a red? Or is said player a fool for putting his head into a boot? Show me the rule that says a keeper is more entitled to dive on a free ball than a striker is to kick it? It was an accident. Brave goalkeeping and a striker doing his job .. nothing more, not even a yellow. Some people are so sanctimonious.

He is more likely wondering how he is going to get a game next season.