Time for a clean out at the Warriors

By Scott Evans / Roar Rookie

We are only five rounds into the 2014 NRL season and already we have our first coaching casualty, with Matthew Elliott parting ways with the Warriors.

There has been the regular media beat down of what was going wrong and why Matthew Elliott was never the right choice and so on.

But this goes further than just Elloitt. What would you think if I told you that two key decisions in the past would become a big reason for the current Warriors environment?

Matt Elliott is not the only one to blame, there are many others including the players, but the main problems come from the top.

Decisions and statements that they have made are coming back to haunt them. I am talking about leadership and the famous comment from Owen Glenn about becoming the biggest sporting franchise in Australasia.

In late 2009 the Warriors made quite a bizarre decision by stripping the team’s captaincy from Australian and State of Origin prop Steve Price. The reasoning for this was building towards the future, where they handed over the reins to Simon Mannering.

There is where it begins to go downhill for the Warriors.

I ask this simple question, did the Broncos strip Darren Lockyer of his captaincy when he announced his retirement?

Darren Lockyer was a great leader where all the players on his team held him at the highest level. He simply led from the front. The importance of leadership in sport is huge.

The All Blacks had a fearless leader in Richie McCaw, who had no disregard for his body and led the team to a World Cup victory.

During the 2013 NBA Finals we witnessed two great leaders in Lebron James and Tim Duncan put on a show for the ages. The importance of leadership cannot be understated.

The decision by the Warriors to strip their fearless leader of the captaincy and give it to a guy who has a total lack of heart is actually a major reason for the lack of success on the field.

Many would say to me that Steve Price would have retired in 2010 and Simon Mannering would have been the captain anyway. That is true but it shows us the lack of respect the Warriors organisation had for Steve Price by stripping him of that position.

During the time of Steve Price’s leadership, as well as the great Ruben Wiki, the Warriors went through a period of consistency and strength. The team wasn’t the most star studded but they were a solid team led by inspirational players.

They batted well above their weight. Today the Warriors are full of star power and have ample resources but do not have that leader that is respected by his fellow teammates and is an inspiration on the field.

It is often seen that the current captain has no relationship with the competitions referees. The way he conducts post match and regular interviews is extremely underwhelming and he is simply a below average captain.

The Warriors leadership on the field is one thing but their leadership off the field that is a serious issue.

With the arrival of Owen Glenn, a statement was made that the Warriors would become the biggest sporting franchise in Australasia.

He then made outrageous statements including there should be a second New Zealand franchise in South Auckland. Owen Glenn is an outstanding businessman but those comments were absolutely outrageous. The Warriors haven’t even won a NRL premiership and they are talking about becoming a formidable franchise.

Over the last couple of seasons the Warriors ownership and management have conducted two unsuccessful coaching appointments and a huge amount of unsuccessful re-signing of key players.

They conducted the last coaching appointment like it was Warrior Idol, with drama, suspense and rumours flowing around in the time before Elliott was given the job.

They also made an unrealistic push for Craig Bellamy, while there was another highly regarded coach in Tim Sheens waiting on the side-lines.

This shows the Warriors’ tendency to try and run before they can walk.

There are many more that have to take some blame. The players are in the end of the day playing the game on the field and they should take some responsibility.

I’m getting a strong feeling from these current players that their egos are a little out of control.

Unfortunately every season Stephen Kearney gets his annual dose of Warriors syndrome and selects some of these players in the Kiwis side even though they just ain’t good enough.

The Under 20 Competition has been one of the success stories of the Warriors organisation.

Some seasons they have looked unbeatable, but this is also a big problem.

These under 20s players have been totally dominating the age group competition, but the lack of defence and the obvious size difference between Under 20s and first grade is too much of a jump.

The players are being put in first grade with pumped up egos, believing they will run over their smaller opposition, before being hit with the brutal reality of first grade.

Other NRL teams like the Broncos feed straight from Queensland Cup where players are already hardened up and somewhat ready for the NRL, while the Warriors Under 20s are simply playing kiddy ball.

Probably the worst thing for these players is the media in New Zealand. The media unfortunately have pumped these players up as sporting superstars, something that they are not.

There were even claims that the 22-year-old Hurrell is a household name in New Zealand. Sorry but Hurrell is no Richie McCaw.

Being the only New Zealand NRL franchise, the Warriors are going to be constantly harassed by the media.

While Steven Adams is reaching unprecedented heights for a Kiwi in the NBA, the media are too busy caring about what Shaun Johnson’s new haircut looks like.

All the drama of a Warriors season is totally blown up by the media. What doesn’t help is how the Warriors players play into this and don’t put their head down and concentrate on winning games.

The interview with Johnson after he was dropped recently looked like an episode of Dr Phil.

I have made some pretty harsh comments but it’s time for solutions.

The Warriors have a serious problem in retaining key players, James Maloney and Brent Tate for example. I believe it’s time to restructure the franchise to include someone in charge of football operations, exactly what Phil Gould is doing at Penrith with success.

Someone of high regard needs to be dealing with the players instead of the back office.

It is time to get a franchise coach, somebody like Tim Sheens who will take no s*** and tell the players how it is.

I get sick and tired with these comments that go around that Matt Elliott’s failure had to do with being unable to relate with the players etc. I am sick of seeing coaches being forced out because of player power.

It is time to get a coach that will ship out these bad eggs and get players in that respect their coach and want to play football.

Leadership needs to be shown on the field too. It is time for Simon Mannering to step up or step down. The Warriors need an inspirational leader to lead from the front.

Finally the team needs to turn up and play football. It’s time for the infinite amount of jerseys the team plays in to end, it’s time for the glory hunting and try celebrating on the field to end, and it’s time for players to play the game.

In my opinion it’s time for players and management to step up or get out. It’s now time for real change.

The Crowd Says:

2014-04-12T23:59:56+00:00

Victoria Liu-Pearson

Roar Guru


Brilliant. I wouldn't disagree with a single word. There is only so much the payers and coaching staff can do. They have their job. Management at the Warriors, those 'big time business guys' hiding behind the scenes. What, really do they know? It seems, year by year that is very little. too much all, not enough action. This kind of thing has been plaguing them for far too long. Since day 1 really!

2014-04-11T19:30:40+00:00

dsf

Guest


To be fair he didnt really show much coaching nous in tgat comp. Luckily he jumped ship when he did because the aussie u20s have caught up to the warriors in terms of player size and they have better league mentality.

2014-04-11T04:26:18+00:00

ferret

Guest


Hasler (when at Manly) and Toovey both proved that good coaches can get great results from their teams depsite turmoil in the front office. So although it's difficult it isn't impossible. I think there are too many Warrior players who think they have a mortgage on a top grade spot. I'm sick of "rocks & diamonds" Manu. His positional play outside Nielsen in last week's game against the Sharks was school boy stuff. i would have hooked him. Same as the Fish's poor defensive efforts. When the players see a few of their colleagues get dropped the message will get through quick smart. The Warriors have talent to burn. They need discipline. They need someone like Bennett or Bellamy, Robinson etc.

2014-04-11T04:23:05+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


He is a 5/8th. They are doing a Benji too him by making him something he is not.

2014-04-11T01:26:03+00:00

Walter Penninger

Roar Guru


Hurrell is the best Warriors player and they did not win a game without him.

2014-04-11T01:20:57+00:00

Walter Penninger

Roar Guru


I agree I am sure if the Warriors do not appreciate Hurrell there will be any number of teams after him.

2014-04-10T21:01:03+00:00

Morgan Popham

Roar Pro


My understanding was that the Warriors only offered Cleary a 1-2 year extension when he wanted more and thats what Penrith and Gus offered him so he asked for a early release and away he went

2014-04-10T21:00:52+00:00

Morgan Popham

Roar Pro


My understanding was that the Warriors only offered Cleary a 1-2 year extension when he wanted more and thats what Penrith and Gus offered him so he asked for a early release and away he went

2014-04-10T18:27:52+00:00

Solly

Guest


As said from the horse's mouth!

2014-04-10T12:26:20+00:00

Sylvester

Guest


Agree that Mannering is not the best captaincy choice, but the rest of the article is pretty much baseless.

2014-04-10T09:54:35+00:00

John

Guest


I kinda want the warriors to perform so epicly bad that there is a mass revolt and all the useless, lying morons running the place are cleaned out. Seriously it's getting to that point. The amount of pr bull coming outta that place this week has been extraordinary.

2014-04-10T08:45:22+00:00

The Hoff

Guest


As a manly supporter who watches most games all I can say is the Warriors are a team I enjoy watching every week. They have got something that is exciting to see. I wish them the best

2014-04-10T04:10:59+00:00

Dave

Guest


New author, welocme. With such a wonderfully in depth story, I just hope that you stick around. I haeve been saying this all along, the kids are running the kindergarten. There is no room for common sense and the players are a basketcase of egoo driven personalities. Your point about Mannering is quite correct as is it about the twenties.Welcome and congratulations.

2014-04-10T02:53:10+00:00

Don

Roar Rookie


I think the poor club environment and lack of player accountability is best shown by how Dane Nielsen is performing. He was one of the most consistent and steady players in the Storm back line but at the Warriors he is jumping out of line in defence, looks slow and isn't getting any ball to put him outside his opposite. I haven't seen him play as bad since when Inglis ran over him throughout a game a year or 2 ago. The Warriors is the worst club for Mateo. He needs to be at a club like the Storm for the structures and discipline. Personally, I think the best coach for them would be Brian Smith. He cops no crap and instills systems. There would likely be a player revolt within a short time but that would only further show that the players are unprofessional and pampered.

2014-04-10T01:37:31+00:00

TooLoyalWarrior

Guest


Totally agree KG. Why would they not sign Cleary to a long term deal is beyond me. If I was Owen, I would get rid of Wayne Scurrah, he is the major problem.

2014-04-10T01:21:10+00:00

Will Sinclair

Roar Guru


They don't have a halfback, either. For all his occasional glamour plays, Shaun Johnson is a poor excuse for an NRL halfback.

2014-04-10T00:02:31+00:00

Kiwirichk

Guest


Nail. Hit. Head. Thomas Leuluai for captain. Coach. Someone else the players will respect. David Kidwell. Yep. Tim Sheens even better.

2014-04-09T23:49:18+00:00

therugbyfan

Guest


well they have been putting their top 2 20's players in the Vulcans in Lolohea and fusitua. I also think Hurrell has actually been one of the positives this season. His main concern was his defense and I think he's improved on it dramatically. Also Sam Tomkins the way he's been playing is not worth that price tag of his, he makes far too many errors, he needs to be moved into the halves where I think he'll be more effective.Vatuvei needs to make the shift into the forwards sooner rather than later, Neilson needs to be dropped as he doesn't offer much in attack and defense, Mateo needs to be dropped until further notice, it seems like he's missing a heart...Mannering dropped as captain with Leuluai taking over. Townsend let go..another bad signing would've rather seen lolohea put in there.Also for the only N.Z club to be in the NRL they sure do have a lot of Aussie players

2014-04-09T23:44:54+00:00

Will

Guest


The club didn't want Cleary to go - he was poached by Gus and Penrith. Rather than hold him in Auckland against his will, the Warriors let him go back to Sydney.

2014-04-09T23:43:13+00:00

Spiritfree

Guest


Whether Konrad Hurrell is another Richie McCaw is of no consequence. He's not captain material, but who cares? The fact is that he is an incredibly-talented centre who can score tries seemingly at will, even shoving Inglis out of the way when he needs to. Make no mistake about it, Hurrell is a superstar in the making.

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