Half-baked PyEx: Where are we at in season 2014?

By Ryan Buckland / Expert

We’re effectively at the ‘one third’ mark of AFL season 2014, though mathematically we’re 9/22 of the way through.

We’ve seen enough of every team now to make some reasonably sound conclusions on who’s got it and who hasn’t.

Before we get into the numbers, think about this:

Port Adelaide’s only loss came against North Melbourne;
North Melbourne were beaten by Sydney;
Sydney were beaten by Collingwood;
Collingwood were beaten by Fremantle;
Fremantle were beaten by Hawthorn
Hawthorn were beaten by Geelong; and,
Geelong were beaten by Port Adelaide.

Seven of the Round 10, 2014 top-eight sides are listed in that little passage above, and each side has only played nine games. Fair to say it’s been a pretty excellent season of footy so far, all things considered.

Now, on to the serious stuff. Earlier this year, I introduced a statistic called “Pythagorean Expected Wins”, or PyEx for short. You can read all about it here.

The stat attempts to cut through the various vagaries of footy and determine where a team ‘should’ be given their offensive and defensive output. It’s used a great deal – and effectively – in American sports, and I’ve showed that it was pretty good at sorting the best (and worst) from the rest in the AFL.

I made a commitment to take a look at this for 2014 throughout the year, and given we’re now nine games in the stat should start to be telling.

So what does PyEx have to say about Season 2014 thus far?

Team Wins % Ladder Rank PyEx Wins  PyEx Rank +/-
Port Adelaide 8 145.80% 1 7.1 2 0.9
Geelong 7 116.90% 2 6.9 3 0.1
Gold Coast 7 112.60% 3 6.1 5 0.9
Hawthorn 6 152.60% 4 8.3 1 -2.3
Sydney 6 124.90% 5 6.4 4 -0.4
Collingwood 6 107.90% 6 5.2 9 0.8
Fremantle 5 117.60% 7 5.9 6 -0.9
North Melbourne 5 105.90% 8 5.5 8 -0.5
West Coast 4 125.50% 9 5.5 7 -1.5
Adelaide 4 102.30% 10 4.1 12 -0.1
Essendon 4 98.60% 11 4.8 10 -0.8
Carlton 4 86.70% 12 3.5 13 0.5
Richmond 3 102.80% 13 4.2 11 -1.2
Western Bulldogs 3 84.30% 14 2.3 15 0.7
Melbourne 3 78.70% 15 2.4 14 0.6
St Kilda 3 68.10% 16 1.4 16 -1.2
GWS 2 68.60% 17 0.8 17 1.2
Brisbane Lions 1 54.80% 18 0.6 18 0.4

Once again we haven’t fully nailed the ladder, but in terms of overall wins and losses, PyEx has got it pretty well correct.

PyEx says that our top four, based purely on offensive and defensive output, should be Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Geelong and Sydney.

Some of the other notable differences are:

• PyEx reckons West Coast are worthy of a top eight spot, and should be ahead of both North Melbourne and Collingwood. I disagree with this assessment.

From a more in-depth look at the figures, it’s clear that blowout results against GWS and St Kilda are biasing West Coast’s offensive output numbers up. Offsetting that to some degree is the fact that the Eagles have lost both of their close games.

• There are currently seven of 18 teams that are at or around the 4.5-win mark (+/-1 win), including Collingwood, Fremantle, North Melbourne, West Coast, Adelaide, Essendon and Richmond. The five teams above them all are all at or above the six-win mark to this point in the season.

This tells me that it’s likely five of the current top eight will still be there come September, and that these seven teams will be jostling it out for the final three places. At the moment, PyEx has Fremantle, North and West Coast in there.

• Hawthorn has ‘lost’ 2.3 wins so far this season, according to PyEx. Their output suggests they are a clear eight-win team.

Taking a bit of a deeper look yields some interesting numbers:
o Total Winning Margin: 420 points in six games (70 ppg)
o Total Losing Margin: 52 points in three games (17.3 ppg)
o Differential: +472 points (second, behind West Coast)

Another interesting point to raise about Hawthorn is who they’ve lost to – Port Adelaide, Sydney and Geelong, all teams that are around them on the ladder. Losing sucks, but losing to teams that are in your peer group sucks more.

• Richmond have cost themselves 1.2 wins so far this year. This is also unduly influenced by a blowout result (this round’s pumping of GWS), but the Tigers have lost by 2 points (Round 3 v the Bulldogs), 5 points (Round 7 v Geelong), 17 points (Round 8 v Melbourne) and 18 points (Round 1 v Gold Coast).

So as average as they’ve been, they are perhaps playing slightly better footy than the wins column indicates.

Do you think the PyEx Top Four (Hawthorn, Port, Geelong and Sydney) a better indication of where AFL Season 2014 is at? Or are the numbers presented above showing us a different picture again?

And what are your predictions for this second third of the season?

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2014-05-28T23:57:24+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


I know this is a couple of days old now, but where do I say Fremantle will miss the finals? This system is designed to give a true ranking of where sides are at here and now; not into the future. That one is still in development, but its pretty hard to do it with the stats that we get access to as the general public. FWIW, I think the top four at the end of the season will be Port, Fremantle, Geelong and one of Sydney or Hawthorn.

2014-05-28T11:27:34+00:00

John Fedec

Guest


Can't see Fremantle missing the finals Ryan....I'd say it's IMPOSSIBLE actually mate !! Check the draw, and your whole system while being great has some flaws in it ! Geelong are miles being off a TOP 4 side....wait and see !!

2014-05-27T08:01:45+00:00

Olivia Watts

Roar Guru


Ryan, just one small quibble......... North were NOT beaten by Sydney. They chewed us up and spat us out most embarrassingly as I recall, beating my Bloods by 43 points.. But then, I failed Maths so what would I know?

2014-05-27T02:30:14+00:00

kick to kick

Guest


Quite convincing. The only thing that could upset the predicted top 4 is the different degree of difficulty teams have from here-on courtesy of thedraw.

2014-05-27T02:24:35+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


Not sure Pythagoras was ever crunched in a tackle or implicated in a drug scandal. North beat Freo and Syd but I see where you were headed.

AUTHOR

2014-05-27T00:09:57+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


Thanks Gavin. Yeah given that we're facing a constrained optimisation problem, and that pretty much everything in the AFL is normally distributed from a statistical point of view, there tends to be a fairly standard distribution of wins across the ladder. There is generally a team that wins one or two more than second place, who may be one or two above third and fourth, who are a win or two above fifth, sixth and seventh and so on. The interesting thing about 2014 so far - and which I point out in my article - is that there are currently seven teams that have realistic claim over the last three spots in the top eight; and PyEx says it'll end up being Freo, West Coast and North with Collingood dropping out. I disagree on the stats' assessment of the Eagles, and would put my money on Freo jumping into the top four, Gold Coast ending up 7th or 8th. Sydney and Hawthorn will likely jostle for 4th and 5th. Collingood will probably make it, as will North. But I don't believe Collingood are a top four side as the media seems keen to dub them.

2014-05-27T00:03:45+00:00

Gavin

Guest


Very, very interesting indeed. Having missed your first article, I had to go back and read it to get my head around it. But after a quick analysis myself, I've noticed that the majority of teams from last years top 8 have the same outcome in regards to wins and py ex wins. Statistics would suggest that over time, as you pointed out, they would even out. It definitely needs a much larger sample size but I am very interested to see how the season pans out and would like for you to keep going.

2014-05-26T22:49:29+00:00

Michael huston

Guest


Think you're spot on. They're definitely the best teams. The draw could see Gold Coast or Fremantle slip in though. And Sydneys poor month at the start could haunt them as could Hawthorns injuries, but i think Hawks, Swans, Port and Geelong have what it takes to stick it out and finish top four. Port and Geelong will get the home finals.

AUTHOR

2014-05-26T22:42:12+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


Thanks mate! Hopefully I've been able to present them in a way that's reasonably easy to understand. What do you think of the PyEx Top Four? That's Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Geelong and Sydney.

2014-05-26T14:58:19+00:00

Michael huston

Guest


Gotta hand it to you, your stats are terrific, but I don't have the slightest mathematic bone in my body.

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