A Wallaby squad selected entirely of overseas players

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    With the ARU policy of only selecting stay-at-home Wallabies under scrutiny, let’s check out the talent lying cloistered away in various clubs throughout the world.

    I’ve put together a squad comprised solely of overseas, ineligible Aussies – both former Wallabies and those performing at a level to warrant selection.

    Since the current selection policy appears to have discounted those players who have announced their intention to play overseas next season, I have included such players in this team.

    What to call the team? The ineligible Wallabies? The overseas Wallabies? The exiled Wallabies? The mercenary Wallabies? The illegitimate Wallabies may be a bit too personal, although some Roarers might well warm to a variation of that descriptor for some of the players named here.

    15 James O’Connor (London Irish)
    14 Drew Mitchell (Toulon)
    13 Andrew Smith (Munster)
    12 Matt Giteau (Toulon)
    11 Digby Ioane (Stade Francais)
    10 Brock James (Clermont Auvergne)
    9 Richard Kingi (Stade Francais)
    8 Leroy Houston (Bath)
    7 George Smith (Suntory Sungoliath)
    6 Peter Kimlin (Grenoble)
    5 Kane Douglas (Leinster)
    4 Mark Chisholm (Bayonne)
    3 Salesi Ma’Afu (Northampton Saints)
    2 James Hilterbrand (Edinburgh)
    1 Ben Whittaker (Biarritz Olympique)

    16 Huia Edmonds (Gloucester)
    17 Dayna Edwards (Grenoble)
    18 Keiran Longbottom (Saracens)
    19 Dean Mumm (Exeter Chiefs)
    20 David Lyons (Stade Francais)
    21 Brett Sheehan (Wasps)
    22 Berrick Barnes (Panasonic Wild Knights)
    23 Alfie Mafi (Brive)

    Remaining squad
    Sitaleki Timani (Montpellier), Julian Salvi (Leicester Tigers), Henry Vanderglas (Grenoble), Jono Jenkins (Narbonne), Patrick Phipps (London Irish), Blair Connor (Bordeau Begles), Brackin Karauria-Henry (NTT Shining Arcs)

    Les Kiss (Ireland) – Head
    Matt Taylor (Scotland) – Defence
    Phil Mooney (Panasonic Wild Knights) – Skills
    Patricio Noriega (Bayonne) – Forwards

    Who would captain? How would this team go against the stay-at-home Wallabies? I found it difficult to find hookers and props. Did I overlook any players?

    Kiwis have a much more difficult task selecting a team of exiled players and could probably put together two or three different teams. But could they put together a team that could beat the mighty Wallaby exiles?

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    • Roar Guru

      June 7th 2014 @ 1:20am
      Eddard said | June 7th 2014 @ 1:20am | ! Report

      I’d pick Berrick Barnes over Brock James every day of the week.

      The home grown Wallabies would win easily. The only players that I think would make the Wallabies starting side from that team is Digby Ioane and James O’Connor (provided he’s playing on the right wing). George Smith would make the bench and that’s it.

    • June 7th 2014 @ 1:25am
      Tane Mahuta said | June 7th 2014 @ 1:25am | ! Report

      Dan Palmer
      Ben Mowen

      • Roar Pro

        June 7th 2014 @ 2:18am
        Moreton Bait said | June 7th 2014 @ 2:18am | ! Report

        Yeah I submitted a revised version including Mowen, who apparently is off to Toulon.
        He’d obviously slot into the starting side, probably at 6. Kimlin into lock and Chisholm to the bench.
        Palmer is injured and has retired, no longer in the Grenoble squad.

        • Roar Pro

          June 7th 2014 @ 3:39am
          Moreton Bait said | June 7th 2014 @ 3:39am | ! Report

          This the revised version including Mowen.
          15 James Oโ€™Connor (London Irish)
          14 Drew Mitchell (Toulon)
          13 Andrew Smith (Munster)
          12 Matt Giteau (Toulon)
          11 Digby Ioane (Stade Francais)
          10 Brock James (Clermont Auvergne)
          9 Richard Kingi (Stade Francais)
          8 Leroy Houston (Bath)
          7 George Smith (Suntory Sungoliath)
          6 Ben Mowen (Toulon)
          5 Kane Douglas (Leinster)
          4 Peter Kimlin (Grenoble)
          3 Salesi Maโ€™Afu (Northampton Saints)
          2 Ben Whittaker (Biarritz Olympique)
          1 Keiran Longbottom (Saracens)

          16 James Hilterbrand (Edinburgh)
          17 Huia Edmonds (Gloucester)
          18 Dayna Edwards (Grenoble)
          19 Dean Mumm (Exeter Chiefs)
          20 David Lyons (Stade Francais)
          21 Brett Sheehan (Wasps)
          22 Berrick Barnes (Panasonic Wild Knights)
          23 Alfie Mafi (Brive)

          Remaining squad:
          24 Sitaleki Timani (Montpellier), 25 Julian Salvi (Leicester Tigers), 26 Mark Chisholm (Bayonne), 27 Henry Vanderglas (Grenoble), 28 Patrick Phibbs (London Irish), 29 Blair Connor (Bordeau Begles), 30 Brackin Karauria-Henry (NTT Shining Arcs)

          • Columnist

            June 7th 2014 @ 8:56am
            Brett McKay said | June 7th 2014 @ 8:56am | ! Report

            Mowen’s actually going to Montpellier, Moreton….

            Also, George Smith has finished with Suntory now, he’s with Lyon for the next two seasons.

            And finally, I’ve heard a few whispers that Peter Kimlin might be coming back to the Brumbies, so maybe he might be ineligible for your side?!? ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Roar Pro

              June 7th 2014 @ 12:51pm
              Moreton Bait said | June 7th 2014 @ 12:51pm | ! Report

              Cheers, thanks for those updates Brett.
              It was difficult locating Mowen’s club.

              I did read an interesting article where he had a chat with Ali Williams about his life at Toulon and how they would only be away for one night when playing away. Seems family life was a big influencer.

              Brumby fans will rejoice at having Kimlin back!

              The more ineligibles for my side the better!

        • Roar Guru

          June 7th 2014 @ 6:51am
          The Bush said | June 7th 2014 @ 6:51am | ! Report

          Dan Palmer is retired at 25? What sort of injury is it?

          • June 7th 2014 @ 7:02am
            Max Power said | June 7th 2014 @ 7:02am | ! Report

            Not sure of the injury but it’s not related to his retirement. Clyde Rathbone wrote a really good nice on him, apparently he’s retired to pursue over interests and go to uni.

    • June 7th 2014 @ 1:28am
      Johnno said | June 7th 2014 @ 1:28am | ! Report

      Super rugby side standard easy. I’d back the aussy squad to beat the Pumas,Tonga,Scotland,Italy all at home but lose away. And push Ireland and Wales to the brink, and i’d back them to beat the celtic nations in OZ, but lose away. Would lose to France in OZ, but would only lose by 5 to France in OZ.

    • June 7th 2014 @ 1:40am
      Tane Mahuta said | June 7th 2014 @ 1:40am | ! Report

      SANZAR Exiles.

      1) Steenkamp
      2) Brits
      3) Hayman
      4) Botha
      5) Williams
      6) J.Smith
      7) Louw
      8) Houston
      9) du Preez
      10) Evans
      11) Habana
      12) Giteau
      13) Fourie
      14) Ranger
      15) JOC
      16) Hore
      17) Afoa
      18) Longbottom
      19) Douglas
      20) G.Smith
      21) Vermark
      22) Barnes
      23) Mitchell

      Squad: Rellepelle, McAlistair, Kimlin, Kirchner, Ma’afu, Gear, Masoe, Palmer, Clarke.

      • June 7th 2014 @ 2:22am
        felix said | June 7th 2014 @ 2:22am | ! Report

        Formidable team Tane,AB would struggle to put them away playing away from NZ ๐Ÿ˜€ dont you think??

      • Roar Pro

        June 7th 2014 @ 2:31am
        Moreton Bait said | June 7th 2014 @ 2:31am | ! Report

        Thanks Tane. Seems there is a hell of a lot of exiled rugby talent floating around these days.
        Could almost list squads for an exile version of the Rugby Championship.

        When looking at the overseas squads for this post, I was really surprised by the number of Kiwi and Saffer players. The Kiwis could probably compile three teams.

        Eddard, I would not disagree with you over Berrick and Brock.

      • Roar Guru

        June 7th 2014 @ 3:22am
        El Gamba said | June 7th 2014 @ 3:22am | ! Report

        Is Houston any good? He only showed glimpses here in S15.

      • June 7th 2014 @ 5:24am
        trev said | June 7th 2014 @ 5:24am | ! Report

        Horse is hardly an exile. He’s farming in NZ

        • June 7th 2014 @ 5:24am
          trev said | June 7th 2014 @ 5:24am | ! Report


          • June 7th 2014 @ 9:49am
            Gazzatron said | June 7th 2014 @ 9:49am | ! Report

            He’s getting ready for the world 15 game on the bench. Heard a rumour he was gonna take up a contract in France too, not sure if it’s true though

      • June 7th 2014 @ 8:15am
        AGB said | June 7th 2014 @ 8:15am | ! Report

        Nick Evans. Possibly the biggest ‘What If?’ in the history of NZ Rugby.

      • June 7th 2014 @ 12:41pm
        DanFan said | June 7th 2014 @ 12:41pm | ! Report

        Clarke has retired due to concussion issues, Masoe, mcAlister, Hore past it. Not sure Hayman would survive a game for the ABs but might be useful for a couple of scrums. Maybe Ranger would have had a few more games for the ABs. As for Nick Evans, well he took off with his bottom lip on the ground. Don’t think we missed anything there.

        The view might change in the coming years but from what I can gather those leaving for O/S from NZ in the near future are doing so because they can’t see a future for themselves with higher honours.

        We can wonder about what might have been or could be but I prefer to support the players playing for my team. They come and they go for myriad reasons. It will always bt thus.

        • June 8th 2014 @ 4:51pm
          Tane Mahuta said | June 8th 2014 @ 4:51pm | ! Report

          Those leaving NZ often do it for money and job security Dan.
          Im pretty sure that Boks, ABs, Wallabies and other fringe players have turned their backs on the national jersey to go overseas.

          People like you just like to think that anyone going overseas is no good. Thats wrong.

    • June 7th 2014 @ 2:13am
      pick & go..!! said | June 7th 2014 @ 2:13am | ! Report

      Rocky Elsom
      Julian Huxley
      David Lyons
      Mark Gerrard

    • June 7th 2014 @ 4:27am
      Knocked Back said | June 7th 2014 @ 4:27am | ! Report

      Great idea for an article. However, what really makes all these players ineligible is not geography, but economy, integrity and unfortunately for some, inevitability. None of these attributes, or lack of, will take us to the pinnacle. Saying that, no disrespect to those who are doing what they have to do to, to get by in this world, but if Australian rugby wants to get to the summit, we need loyal warriors and workhorses, not this lot.

      • June 7th 2014 @ 10:38am
        Rebels without a cause said | June 7th 2014 @ 10:38am | ! Report

        I’d love to test your loyalty,integrity (and any other superlative you want to throw out there) if you had the option of being paid $500k rather than $200k.

      • June 7th 2014 @ 12:07pm
        Hertryk said | June 7th 2014 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

        I agree many prima donnas in there, but what I did find fascinating were the bods that made one think “crikey forgot all about him” or “I wondered what happened to him” …so soon we forget…or should say …so soon I forget… ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Roar Pro

          June 7th 2014 @ 1:09pm
          Moreton Bait said | June 7th 2014 @ 1:09pm | ! Report

          Yes the money is obviously a big consideration.

          Also some of these players enjoy the game and find new friends, lifestyles and build very successful careers doing what they love.

          Julian Salvi is very highly regarded and has been nominated as best British player of the year for a couple of years
          Brock James has become almost a legend in french rugby
          George Smith is legend wherever he plays

          Fame , fortune, plaudits, adulation can be found, and re-found, by some players

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