Greatest ever Origin team: Queensland backline

By Scott Pryde / Expert

After naming the greatest ever New South Wales Origin team over the last two days, it’s time to name the Queensland team. How many from their eight-year dynasty will make it?

Fullback
The candidates are: Colin Scott (Brisbane Easts, Wynnum Manly and Brisbane Broncos), Gary Belcher (South Brisbane, Canberra Raiders), Robbie O’Davis (Newcastle Knights), Darren Lockyer (Brisbane Broncos) and Billy Slater (Melbourne Storm)

Colin Scott held the fullback spot for every game in State of Origin from the first game in 1980, right through to the 1986 series. He never missed a game and was far and away the best fullback in Queensland.

While his attack left a lot to be desired, his defence was right up there with the best of them. Scott represented Queensland 33 times, scoring one try and managed to represent Australia once.

Gary Belcher effectively replaced Colin Scott once age caught up with him. Belcher played for Queensland 16 times and was a decent goal kicker for the Maroons, playing for Queensland until he retired.

Robbie O’Davis was the next fullback for the Marrons after Belcher. He played for the Maroons 12 times over a seven-year period, managing to cross for one try. He had to play a number of his Origin games on the wing due to the emergence of Darren Lockyer. O’Davis also played for Australia eight times, scoring four tries.

Darren Lockyer could have either been named as a candidate for fullback or five–eighth. But he made his name fullback and played virtually an equal amount of games for the Maroons between the two positions.

He has mastered two positions throughout his career and captained Queensland towards the end of his career. He has played for Queensland 36 times and Australia 59.

Billy Slater is a brilliant fullback. He has been the main Queensland fullback throughout their eight-year streak and is brilliant in both attack and defence, as well as being very quick.

He has played for Queensland 23 times and Australia 24, scoring 11 and 22 tries respectively.

The Verdict: The battle for the fullback position is between Billy Slater and Darren Lockyer. Lockyer has a bit more talent than Slater. Even though you could name him in the halves, he made his name at fullback.

The wingers
The candidates are: Kerry Boustead (Eastern Suburbs and Manly Warringah Sea Eagles), Dale Shearer (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles, Brisbane Broncos, Gold Coast Seagulls, South Queensland Crushers, Sydney Roosters and North Queensland Cowboys), Willie Carne (Brisbane Broncos), Wendell Sailor (Brisbane Broncos and St George Illawarra Dragons), Matt Sing (Penrith Panthers, Sydney Roosters and North Queensland Cowboys), Israel Folau (Melbourne Storm, Brisbane Broncos), Darius Boyd (Brisbane Broncos, St George Illawarra Dragons and Newcastle Knights)

Kerry Boustead was an exceptional winger who played in the first State of Origin game in 1980. Boustead was the youngest player selected to represent the Australian team and played nine games for the Maroons, scoring eight tries. He represented Australia 25 times and scored 15 tries.

Shearer debuted in 1985 and Willie Carne in 1990. Both were very good wingers in both defence and attack. They played a handful of games in the Origin arena together.

Shearer played 26 games for the Maroons, scoring 12 tries and kicking a handful of goals. Carne played 12 times, scoring five tries and also kicking a few goals. Shearer played for the Kangaroos 20 times while Carne played 10 times for the Australian team.

Wendell Sailor would have played a lot more games for both the Maroons and Australia if he stayed in rugby league. He was one of the best. Sailor played for the Maroons 14 times only scoring one try. He played for Australia 16 times scoring 17 tries.

Matt Sing played for the Maroons over a 10-year period. He was never a consistent selection, however did a good job whenever the Maroons ever called on him to fill either the wing or centre spot. He played for Queensland 24 times and Australia 15.

Israel Folau was one of the most freakishly talented wingers ever to be seen on the footy field. He only played for Queensland five times and scored as many tries.

Now for even mentioning Darius Boyd I expect to cop a lot of criticism, however his try scoring record of 14 tries from 19 games is too good to be ignored. He has also played for Australia 17 times, scoring 13 tries.

The Verdict: The two wing spots come down to Dale Shearer, Kerry Boustead, Israel Folau and Wendell Sailor. Folau, even though he was the most talented, can’t be named. He only played five games. Wendell Sailor gets the first spot while the other one goes to Dale Shearer. Shearer lasted a long time and held the tryscoring record for even longer.

The centres
The candidates are: Mal Meninga (Canberra Raiders), Gene Miles (Wynnum Manly and Brisbane Broncos), Mark Coyne (Brisbane Brothers, St George Dragons and St George Illawarra Dragons), Steve Renouf (Brisbane Broncos) and Greg Inglis (Melbourne Storm and South Sydney Rabbitohs)

Mal Meninga played in the original State of Origin game. He was never scared of anything on the footy field. He was great in attack, defence and leadership, captaining the Queensland team a number of times right throughout the 1980s.

He played for Queensland 32 times and Australia 46 times. He also coached Queensland during their eight-year winning streak.

Gene Miles missed the first official State of Origin game but was a big part of the Queensland team from 1981. Along with Mal Meninga, Miles didn’t let anyone else come close to taking their centre spots. He played for the Maroons 23 times and Australia 14 times.

Mark Coyne and Steve Renouf were the two main Queensland centres throughout the 1990s. Both were strong and right up for the job of taming the New South Wales Blues. They didn’t necessarily lock down the centres spots during the 1990s but did a very good job of it.

Mark Coyne played 19 times for Queensland and nine times for Australia while Steve Renouf played 11 times for Queensland and 10 for Australia.

Greg Inglis has probably been the best centre in the game for most of his career, despite now playing fullback at club level. He holds the all-time tryscoring record in Origin with 15 tries from 23 games. He has also represented Australia 23 times.

The Verdict: Clearly the best two centres are Greg Inglis and Mal Meninga. They are freakishly talented and are must have inclusions in the team. They edge out Gene Miles, who is third.

Five-eighth
The candidates are: Wally Lewis (Fortitude Valley, Wynnum Manly, Brisbane Broncos and Gold Coast), Kevin Walters (Norths Devils, Canberra Raiders, Brisbane Broncos) and Johnathan Thurston (Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs and North Queensland Cowboys).

Wally Lewis missed the first ever State of Origin but played five-eighth for the rest of the 1980s. He captained the side all the way through. He was an inspirational leader that gave Queensland a great start to Origin. He played 38 games for Queensland and 34 for Australia.

Kevin Walters virtually replaced Wally Lewis once he retired. Walters was the next great Queensland five–eighth and always gave his all for his state. Of course it helped playing alongside Allan Langer. He played 20 games For Australia and 11 for Queensland.

Johnathan Thurston could have been made a candidate either in the five-eighth section or in the halfback section. He has been great for Queensland during their entire eight-year reign. He changed from Half back to five-eighth when Darren Lockyer retired, just for the good of the side. He has played 29 games for Queensland and 31 games for Australia.

The Verdict: As good as Walters and Thurston are, no one beats the King. Wally Lewis rightfully gets the five-eighth spot in the Queensland team.

Halfback
The candidates are: Mark Murray (North Devils and Redcliffe), Allan Langer (Ipswich Jets and Brisbane Broncos), Adrian Lam (Sydney Roosters) and Cooper Cronk (Melbourne Storm)

Mark Murray was one of the first halfbacks for the Maroons and played from 1981 to 1986, until Langer began his Origin career. Murray’s career was cut short by injury. He played 15 games for the Maroons and also represented Australia eight times.

Allan Langer played halfback from the Maroons from 1987, with his last game in 2002. He was only rarely replaced by Adrian Lam in the Maroons team and held the halfback spot down for years. Langer was one of the best, whether it was for the Broncos, the Maroons or Australia. He played a total of 34 games for Queensland and 24 for Australia.

Adrian Lam represented Queensland for a number of years. He was a very good halfback and never gave up in the Origin arena. He played 14 games for Queensland and 11 for Papua New Guinea.

Cooper Cronk has only really come into the Origin arena in the last couple of years, but has shined every time he got the chance. He helped Queensland through the back half of their eight-match winning streak. He has played 12 games for Queensland and 22 for Australia

The Verdict: Allan Langer is head and shoulders above the rest and so gets the spot. Maybe ask me in a few years and it might be a bit closer between him and Cronk.

Queensland’s greatest ever back seven
1. Darren Lockyer
2. Wendell Sailor
3. Greg Inglis
4. Mal Meninga
5. Dale Shearer
6. Wally Lewis
7. Allan Langer

The Crowd Says:

2014-07-01T00:56:17+00:00

Bill

Guest


Just for accuracy, Wally Lewis did play in the first Origin game. He played lock in that match prior to playing out the rest of his Origin career at five eight.

2014-06-30T13:16:38+00:00

bob Adams

Guest


Yes........but as much as I love Alfie.....would have Thurston in there......but agree about everything else...

2014-06-29T17:26:50+00:00

rvm99

Guest


It’s a little bit of nit picking but the following statements need to be highlighted/corrected for accuracy; “He was great in attack, defence and leadership, captaining the Queensland team a number of times right throughout the 1980s” referring to Mal Meninga. Mal Meninga had all of those attributes in spades however as far as I am aware Meninga never captained the Qld Origin side in the 80’s. I believe that there was one occasion when he captained a Residents side in 1984 whilst still playing for Brisbane Souths against a touring NZ side and didn’t assume the captaincy of the QLD Origin side until 1992. Qld only ever had three captains from 1980 to 1990. Beetson, Lewis and Pau Vautin who captained the side in Lewis’ absence from injury in Game 1 in 1988 and Game 1 in 1990. “Gene Miles missed the first official State of Origin game but was a big part of the Queensland team from 1981.” Gene Miles certainly played a big part in Qld teams but he debuted in the 1982 series. “Wally Lewis missed the first ever State of Origin but played five-eighth for the rest of the 1980s.” Lewis played Lock in that game.

2014-06-29T02:09:23+00:00

Jackson Henry

Guest


Hey Dallas. I sort of agree - I don't think Lockyer was necessarily "the best" player, but I do think he is "the greatest" player - ever. We can measure things like linebreaks, try assists and all that, but my definition of greatness is this: someone who does things that are unlikly to ever be replicated by a single individual. I've seen other players up there with Johns in terms of on-field performances - and I'm a Blue - but no-one has achieved what Lockyer has and I don't think anyone ever will. Plus, he was the game's ultimate MVP: teams just won with him in the side, and while others' numbers were better, no-one had his record for big games and big moments.

2014-06-28T13:16:25+00:00

Johnno

Guest


1 change, Tiquri in for Matt Sing, as good as Matt Sing was Tiquri played 6 games and was still better.

2014-06-28T13:15:18+00:00

Dallas

Guest


Lockyer also had to take on more responsibility for the broncos and Qld due to the lack of ball players in the early 2000's. But you watch a test match where he is playing with guys like johns, Fittler, kimmorely or Trent Barrett, He was untouchable, predominately running the footy and backing up the forwards. The British commentators use to talk about him like he was Jesus. But in test footy when he played fullback he deadest had spiders on him Tell me this - if slater didn't play in a great team with Cam Smith and Cronk doing all the playmaking. Could he take on the no. 1 playmaker role that Lockyer did for the broncos and Qld from 00-04 ?? I very much doubt it.. Lockyer is a special player and IMO is the best rugby league player to come from Queensland, hands down.

2014-06-28T13:07:43+00:00

Johnno

Guest


QLD 2nds side Billy Slater Matt Sing Chris Close Peter Jackson Dale Shearer Kevin Walters Alan Langer Dallas Johnson Gary Larson Nate Myles Matt Scott Steve Walters Steve Price Bench: Tony Carroll,Trevor Gillmister,Greg Dowling,Scott Prince

2014-06-28T13:06:19+00:00

Gundy Dragon

Guest


Shame he is a new southwelshman !

2014-06-28T13:02:58+00:00

Dallas

Guest


Lockyer was a great ball runner in his early days, he changed the way fullbacks play the game. In my opinion, andrew johns was the most talented footballer on his day but no one has achieved what Lockyer has. He was the best fullback in the world and then in the space of 5 months became the best 5/th. Have a read of this article from Gus Gould http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/10/1081326979737.html?from=storyrhs

2014-06-28T12:54:40+00:00

Dallas

Guest


Joel - Greg Inglis is the best outside back to have ever played the game , far better than meninga or miles. Strength, speed and skill they both do not come close to Inglis. He is first picked centre

2014-06-28T12:54:02+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Lockeyar Greg Inglis Mal Meninga Gene Miles Folau Wally Lewis JT Jason Smith Bob Linder Tallis Petro Cam Smith Sam Backo Bench: Brian Neibling Sam Thaiday Darren Smith Cooper Cronk

2014-06-28T12:50:58+00:00

Dallas

Guest


Sailor was the best winger to play the game. He didn't play his best at origin level but he was the man.

2014-06-28T12:49:23+00:00

Dallas

Guest


1. Billy Slater 2. Lote Tuquri 3. Mal meninga 4. Greg Inglis 5. Wendell Sailor 6. Darren Lockyer 7. Jonathon Thurston. 8. Nate Myles 9. Cameron Smith 10. Petero civoniceva 11. Gordan Tallis 12. Trevor Gillmeister 13. Wally Lewis 14. Alf Langer 15. Shane Webcke 16. Garry Larson 17. Artie beetson Slater and Thurston both deserve to be in the side due the amount of success they have had. Same goes with Nate Myles, you could argue that webcke was a better front rower than him but Myles has won 8 series and webcke would have lost more than he one.

2014-06-28T12:45:43+00:00

Dallas

Guest


1. Billy Slater 2. Lote Tuquri 3. Mal meninga 4. Greg Inglis 5. Wendell Sailor 6. Darren Lockyer 7. Jonathon Thurston. 8. Nate Myles 9. Cameron Smith 10. Petero civoniceva 11. Gordan Tallis 12. Trevor Gillmeister 13. Wally Lewis 14. Alf Langer 15. Shane Webcke 16. Garry Larson 17. Artie beetson Slater and Thurston both deserve to be in the side due the amount of success they have had. Same goes with Nate Myles, you could argue that webcke was a better front rower than him but Myles has won 8 series and webcke would have lost more than he one.

AUTHOR

2014-06-28T12:29:34+00:00

Scott Pryde

Expert


Thanks for the feedback everyone! Been quite enjoyable to read everyone's comments over the last couple of days and sorry I havent been real active my self! Have submitted the forward pack article this afternoon so hoppefully that will be published tomorrow. Been very interesting to read everyones views on the team and for the most part it seems I was pretty close to the mark which is good to know :)

2014-06-27T20:28:05+00:00

Gundy Dragon

Guest


15 try's that should never have happened. Why not pick all Qeenslanders?

2014-06-27T14:18:06+00:00

yung

Guest


from a proud blue, thats one hell of a backline! nsw by 12 :)

2014-06-27T14:15:51+00:00

yung

Guest


! :)

2014-06-27T13:55:56+00:00

Realist 1975

Guest


Totally agree with this statement. Awesome players for the Broncos though.

2014-06-27T13:54:17+00:00

Realist 1975

Guest


Based on SOO games only and thus importantly ignoring International and club football the team I would fear would be: Slater, Shearer, Meninga Close, Inglis, Lewis (C), Langer, Lindner, Gillmeister, Miles, Backo, Smith and Cironiceva. Now including all games of footy and including all positions played I would have Thurston over Langer and Lockyer over Slater. Shearer, Lindner and even Peter Jackson were absolute dynamite for Queensland and sometimes don't get the accolades I feel that they deserved. It would be an interesting battle against my NSW team of Hayne, O’Connor, B Fittler, Daley, Ettingshausen, Kenny, Sterling (C), Clyde, Gallen, Bird, Roach, Elias & Lazarus.

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