Five talking points from State of Origin III

By Ryan O'Connell / Expert

The Queensland Maroons have defeated the New South Wales Blues 32-8 in the third and final game of the 2014 State of Origin series, played last night at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane.

Though the series was decided in Sydney when the Blues won Game 2, the game had all the characteristics we’ve come to expect from Origin. It was fast-paced, it was intense, it was niggly and it was gripping.

Check out our NSW and Queensland player ratings from game 3

Those tuning into Origin for the first time certainly wouldn’t have felt as if the combatants had nothing to play for. Indeed, the passion and commitment from both states was on show all night.

Following are five talking points from last night’s epic encounter.

Just present the Origin Shield when a team wins the series
This isn’t something NSW have had to worry about for a very long time, so it’s only a topic of interest south of the border today, but the Origin Shield should be presented to a team’s captain as soon as they have won the series.

Can anyone seriously give me a reason why the presentation should be held off until after the third game, if the series has already been decided after two?

It felt extremely weird for Paul Gallen and his Blues teammates to be smiling and celebrating after just being annihilated by the Maroons. In fact, to say it was jarring would be an understatement.

If a team wins after two games, give them the Shield. If they win away from home in that match, and therefore want to celebrate in front of their home crowd after the third game, they can still do a lap of honour after game three. As they do anyway.

The problem with common sense is that it’s not very often. It’s time for rugby league to apply some on this topic.

Cooper Cronk is criminally underrated
The Melbourne halfback may not throw flashy flick passes. He may not have a signature left-foot step in his repertoire. He’s certainly not a massive proponent of the exciting chip ‘n’ chase. Instead he’s just a great player who forces one to use adjectives like ‘methodical’, ‘clinical’ and ‘precise’ when describing him.

He’s a sensational footballer.

For those that follow the NBA, he somewhat reminds me of Tim Duncan, in that his fundamentals are amazing, his professionalism inspiring, and his ability to consistently win games practically unrivalled.

Cronk will never be a Benji Marshall-type player that the media adores and young fans mimic in the playground. Instead he’s a pro’s pro who understands the game like few others, and has a tremendous impact on matches based on nuance, intelligence and tactical nous. Not to mention a hell of a lot of ability.

There is no question that the Maroons missed his presence in this series when he was injured, and the biggest benefactor last night was Greg Inglis, who finally got some opportunities in attack. Not a bad thing, considering how devastating a player GI can be.

I’ll stop short of saying Queensland would currently be riding a nine-year winning streak if Cronk was healthy for the entire series, but the Blues should definitely consider themselves lucky that he broke his arm.

How much should NSW read into this loss?
It’s a complex question to analyse, because the Blues objective was to win the series, and they achieved just that.

Watching them smile and celebrate after the game seemed to convey a sense that they didn’t care all that much about losing, and while I’m sure that’s not true, it also clouds the issue of how much they should read into this loss. After all, were they simply slightly below the intensity required to win Origin because the series was over? Or did we see the real NSW last night?

It’s a tough couple of questions to answer, and the truth is we’ll never really know.

However, the Blues could have easily lost this series 3-0, and I think it would be short-sighted, not to mentioning damaging, to not think about ways the team can improve and ensure they’re prepared for the Queensland response we all know is coming next year.

I therefore think the Blues should read a lot into this loss, because I think it highlighted the main issue this team has. Namely, that the attack isn’t quite up to Origin standard, even if their defense is sensational.

Trent Hodkinson and Josh Reynolds deserve a lot of credit for steering NSW to their first series victory in nine years, but their lack of creativity, direction and playmaking skills hurt the team at times during the series. I defy anyone to seriously suggest otherwise.

I’m not suggesting they should be dumped next year. That would display a horrendous lack of loyalty to a halves pairing that has helped NSW finally end the Maroon’s winning streak. But the Blues won’t win too many games against Queensland by looking like they’re playing 13 prop forwards on the park, just hitting up one-out.

It’s not panic stations; it’s merely food for thought – and improvement – for next year. The Blues need to score more points, and a lot of that responsibility is incumbent upon the halves.

Speaking to the refs
I’ll keep this short and sweet, which is the total opposite of how rugby league players communicate with referees these days.

Quite frankly, the way both sides talked to the refs last night was disgraceful.

Whether it was the constant badgering and whinging, or the disrespectful language and tone that was used, it was a horrible look for the game, and left a really bad taste in my mouth.

Refs should go back to calling players by their numbers, so as to not welcome a colloquial, matey-type conversation with players. While players should go back to showing the referees a lot more respect.

Last night was a disgrace.

Time for everyone to open their second eye
I seriously love this time of year. New South Wales and Queensland fans get so feral. So irrational. So biased. So one-eyed. And it’s nothing short of awesome. State of Origin is built on passion, and you could never argue that the players and fans on both sides of the border don’t display plenty of that during the Origin period.

However, now that the 2014 State of Origin period is in the rearview mirror, it’s time for some objective observations on players from both sides…

I have a serious man-crush on Cam Smith. I love him. He’s classy, articulate and a wonderful footballer. I would give my left arm for him to have been born in NSW.

I love Greg Bird for three games a year. For the rest of the season, I would drive by him if his car was broken down on the side of the road. His sledge on Gold Coast teammate Dave Taylor – which cannot be repeated here because we’re a family website – was hilarious, but also highlighted that it’s a lot safer to be on Bird’s team. He’s a nasty piece of work.

I’ve led the chorus for Greg Inglis to be given time at fullback for Queensland in order to better capitalise on his attacking prowess, but after watching Billy Slater play this series, you can understand why he retains the number 1 jersey for the Maroons. He was arguably Queensland’s best player across the three games. An absolute superstar.

Paul Gallen shouldn’t be NSW captain. I doubt he’s the most tactically astute player in the game, and if he’s in the influential position simply because he leads by example – in terms of effort – then he can do that just as easily without the (c) next to his name.

Corey Parker is like a fine wine, he just keeps getting better with age. However we may have to call the Queensland jumper red, because drinking a full-bodied Maroon doesn’t sound all that enticing.

Josh Dugan impressed the hell out of me this series. I always thought that, although talented, he was mental error waiting to happen. Yet he showed that he’s a lot more than just a freaky, x-factor type of player across the two games he was selected in. And though I questioned whether he’s a centre, I think he may actually have found his positional home.

Lastly, seriously Queensland, just give up on the Dave Taylor experiment. Now.

Well done to Queensland for bouncing back with a vengeance last night. Likewise, well done to NSW for winning the series and finally ending the Maroons winning streak.

Bring on 2015.

The Crowd Says:

2014-07-20T09:45:49+00:00

Ben Southcombe

Roar Rookie


Totaly with you on your point about giving the team the shield after they win the series. I was at game 2 and like 95% of the people there, would've loved to witness Gal lift the shield up. The impact Cronk had in game 3 was huge. A profound influnece on the direction of a team, who struggled for points in the opening 2 games, in attack. There's no denying that NSW were derserved winners of the series, on the back of true grit and determination in defence. Yet with the series wrapped up, and a few faces in the side, that same resolve was lacking. Were it 1 a piece going into game 3, I shudder to think who may've ended up lifting that trophy.

2014-07-11T01:56:09+00:00

Charles NSW

Guest


Some people never progress, stuck in the dark ages. He is history Meesta Cool, the fans do not want him!

2014-07-10T20:56:14+00:00

xavialonso

Guest


I love listening to Wally Lewis commentate. Never saw the great man play as he was before my time. But you just gotta love his passion for our game. As a league supporter, if hearing Wally shouting from the box "Go you good thing!" doesn't get you excited for Origin, nothing will.

2014-07-10T13:02:22+00:00

Meesta Cool;

Guest


A week ago, the NSW halfs were being lauded as the saviours.. what a difference a defeat makes to some folks. Bring back Pearce!....

2014-07-10T12:32:35+00:00

V.O.R.

Guest


Interesting stats. That says more about Laurie Daley's stiffling tactics to win at all costs, even at the expense to the public for having to endure a farce of an origin spectacle in game 2, than it says about anything else. I would of loved to been a fly on the wall when Daley was laying down terms to the refs in the secret meeting before the niggly uninspiring decider. You can double your penalty count if the refs meet their job description in game 2.

2014-07-10T12:29:50+00:00

Meesta Cool;

Guest


A week ago, the NSW halfs were being lauded as the saviours.. what a difference a defeat makes to some folks. Bring back Pearce!....

2014-07-10T12:27:56+00:00

Doug Graves

Guest


So does this series win signify the end of the Mitchell Pearce nepotism/experiment? Or does the game 3 flogging possibly keep the door slightly ajar for him? I'm hoping it's the former but I have this gnawing suspicion that he could be back if NSW lose game 1 next year.

2014-07-10T12:05:52+00:00

Paul

Roar Rookie


You can't judge a dead rubber too much. If it was a decider I don't think it would have been the same score line.

2014-07-10T12:05:00+00:00

Meesta Cool;

Guest


We only have to check out the NSW team on paper to realise that the penalty count will always favour Queensland. I don't need to name and shame, coz we all know who the 'Penalty Magnets are.

2014-07-10T12:01:16+00:00

Paul

Roar Rookie


There wasnt a try scored down that edge for the whole series if my memory isn't failing me. That's OK in my book.

2014-07-10T11:47:35+00:00

Paul

Roar Rookie


Biggest penalty margin in a game in the last 9 years Qld 11 NSW 5. Biggest penalty count to a team in the last 9 years Qld 11. Highest penalty count for a series in the last 9 years Qld 21. Biggest penalty count margin in a series for the last 9 years Qld 21 NSW 15. I smell a NSW conspiracy.

2014-07-10T09:06:22+00:00

V.O.R.

Guest


Gundy Dragon...are you on the frontier fella? They're usually the most radical supporters. I have been noting your scathing commentary against anything QLD....school of hard knocks being a Blues supporter at the Gundy local. Back to your question.. "Once a player displays one of those five symptoms consistent with a possible concussion, they are taken from the field for further, more formal assessment by the club medical officer. A Sideline Concussion Assessment (SCA) is to be conducted within 15 minutes of the player being presented to the doctor for examination with the test normally taking between eight to 10 minutes to complete. The examination is undertaken using the Sport Concussion Assessment Tool (SCAT3) protocols and a decision made on whether the player can return to the field immediately, remain off the field to undergo further assessment or ruled out altogether." I think there needs to be some compensation to a team who loses a player due to an act that is deemed illegal. Matt Scott had his cheekbone fractured by Bird in the early parts of game 2 with one of his trademark jumps into the tackle (it was no mistake that Myles lined him up when he tried it again last night from the kick off). A fact rarely acknowledged was that QLD played the majority of both game 1 and 2 with only 16 men...no small disadvantage for a team when dealing with the rigours of Origin. While Cronk's injury was unfortunate it was not from foul play. The same cant be said for Scott's injury. The NRL need to either allow an emergency sub (19th man) or sit out the guilty party for the remainder of the match, still allowing for the affected team to field 13 men. There is nothing fair about a team being disadvantaged in a very major way due to the grub acts of certain individuals.

2014-07-10T09:03:17+00:00

Suck it up

Guest


Thaidays tap back would have been a scrum feed anyway s NSW knocked the ball on before gathering, I am pretty sure you aren't allowed to bounce the ball like he did. Maybe Bird shouldn't have even been on the field for that incident after what he did to Myles a few minutes earlier, missed that one did you?

2014-07-10T08:54:49+00:00

Suck it up

Guest


NSW could not hold the ball long enough to warrant a penalty. Bird got hit in the chest, with the arm moving up to his neck. His Oscar winning clutch the throat and dive to the ground was comical and really beneath this level of game. And while on the subject, nice effort by Gallen to lead with his head into Myles face immediately after the "incident". A real grub that guy. Queensland received the penalties as NSW thought that it was still a wrestling match and obviously hadn't received the memo that last night was going to be a game of rugby league. Amazing gap between the two teams once the real game started.

2014-07-10T08:32:45+00:00

Off To Mandy's

Guest


Ok i will give you a few examples. Hodkinson puts Thaiday on his back in dominate tackle, Thaiday kicks about and yet Hodkinson gets penalised. Farrah stands after making tackle, QLDer has hold of his shorts, Farrah gets penalised. Coming out of half, Morris makes tackle and in trying to get to marker is pulled away by Hodges who is going to dummy half, Hodges then picks ball up, runs into Morris gets penalty. Hodges makes break, Reynolds gets penalised for hanging on too long although he really did not lay on him at all. Compare that to when Dugan makes break, gets tackled, Smith flops and then proceeds to twist his leg, but no penalty. QLD deserved to win last night, they were the better side, however they got a good leg up. Also you QLDers refer to Gallen, Bird etc being grubs. The biggest grub in the game is Smith. He gets away with murder. I have no problem with it, good luck to him if he can get away with it. Just a bit old you blokes going on about Gallen etc.

2014-07-10T08:21:47+00:00

Off To Mandy's

Guest


WQ did you see the last 15 minutes of game one. The only other thing the refs could of done was actually put the ball over the line for them!!

2014-07-10T08:17:17+00:00

V.O.R.

Guest


A follow up on my comments regarding the poor old Coal train, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt here. Let us not forget he is only 25 and has many years to evolve his game...it is quite possible he will still be running around in 2020 long after the 30+ crowd have moved along...he may yet be a weapon at Origin level. A brave man to suggest this is not plausible. Admittedly the tactics by NSW I allude to above would require some attention to detail to observe.....and I wouldn't expect a NSW supporter licking their wounds to even bother. Regardless I thought it worthwhile to provide an example of the meticulous approach by Daley. While I don't agree with the underhanded approach taken to have an independent meeting with match officials 24 hours out from game 2, NSW have a good one in Daley. He'll need to stick around if NSW are to be confident of bringing some balance to the annals of Origin history.

2014-07-10T08:11:21+00:00

Gundy Dragon

Guest


You mean break the rules?

2014-07-10T08:09:47+00:00

Gundy Dragon

Guest


Interesting V.O.R. If he gets taken off for concussion under today's rules is he allowed back on the field ?

2014-07-10T07:58:53+00:00

Carlos

Guest


The reality is, if one team gets 6 more penalties than the other they will win. Its one of the problems with League and Union the refs can have too much sway over the results.

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